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Home automation is really stupid unless you have a disability, in which case it's cool. Otherwise though it's dumb. I don't know why tech companies think I want to yell at my furnishings all the time to make it work, or have to unlock my phone just to turn off the light in my room. I'm just going to get up and turn it off, it's right over there. Most of it you have to go over to it to use it anyways, so I'm just going to work it there. TV remotes are nice I guess, but I can't think of anything else that gets a pass. Also the spying poo poo most of it does but whatever, smart phones do that and they're actually useful. I hate home automation.
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:09 |
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It makes dumb people feel slick. Every idiot has alexa, and the only thing they do with it is ask it to play music.
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:10 |
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My vacuum automated the charging of my J.O. crystals, if you know what I mean, OP.
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:12 |
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imagine a fully automated home but its groverhaus
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:12 |
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the entire tech industry is bitches
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:13 |
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ASenileAnimal posted:imagine a fully automated home but its groverhaus "Ok google. Insulate stairs."
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:14 |
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The Human Crouton posted:"Ok google. Insulate stairs." "Igniting barbecue. Vinyl siding melted."
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:16 |
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2 things would make me get an Alexa 1) If I could just call it "computer" and then ask a question like captain picard 2) If the device wasn't constantly spying on me
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:16 |
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OP. Maybe it will be cool in the future, when it can really do advanced stuff. Right now it's mostly simple poo poo that takes just as long to do with your phone as it did the old fashion way. Switching lights on/off, locks, timers etc. Get back to me when I can use voice commands to summon my 3D waifu on the holodeck.
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:18 |
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I am already worried my benign houseware is listening to me, I really don't understand why people would invite more of it.
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:21 |
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ASenileAnimal posted:imagine a fully automated home but its groverhaus Adds in a set of sensors so that if he comes home from work at exactly at 6:23 fireworks shoot out of the shed's mystery pipe.
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:21 |
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Alexa, compose shitpost
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:22 |
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actually its really really cool if you use it right basically like star trek irl there have been a lot of these threads lately and i seriously suspect y'all just dont know what you're doing
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:24 |
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*hands full of groceries, shoes on, coat on, just got in from work* hey google i'm home *lights come on, music plays, house starts to warm up, coffee starts, tv queues up peep show, etc*
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:26 |
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Nah, I am a nerd and love computers but shoving the internet into every toaster, light bulb, and picture frame doesn't make anything better. Well, I guess it does make everything you own incredibly insecure.
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:27 |
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It can be both stupid and cool OP I've wasted so much time setting up https://www.openhab.org and https://github.com/nfarina/homebridge but now I can talk to my wristwatch and magically open the garage and my mailbox sends me a push message on my phone every time someone opens the lid and a lot of other stupid crap that doesn't make life any easier but gives me something to do on a weekend making sure it all still works You can have a look at http://demo.openhab.org:8080/habpanel/index.html#/
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:27 |
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General Dog posted:Alexa, compose shitpost Captain Kirk giving a passionate speech about humanity being the essential component of a good shitposter
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:28 |
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What do people do with all that extra time? 10 seconds saved turning on music, another 10 seconds saved asking what the weather will be, by the end of the week I'll have saved enough time to spend an extra 5 minutes deciding what to watch on netflix!
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:29 |
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r u ready to WALK posted:It can be both stupid and cool OP A productive hobby that allows you to learn and develop skills and knowledge that's bullshit!!
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:29 |
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Yeah it's not your possessions that's making you miserable, it's other people's possessions
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:29 |
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Peachfart posted:Nah, I am a nerd and love computers but shoving the internet into every toaster, light bulb, and picture frame doesn't make anything better. Well, I guess it does make everything you own incredibly insecure. This is an important point, it's probably better to DIY everything because you literally can't do a worse job than the idiot companies that flood the market with "connected" crap that run a full embedded linux system that is missing 10 years of security patches
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it's really loving weird and stupid that Alexa took off. it's like seeing people wearing google glass everywhere.
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:32 |
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owning my dad every time i visit him by using the actual light switch to turn off the bathroom lights after pissing
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:32 |
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Alexa play 100 hours of Tim Allen grunts
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:35 |
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Tom Gorman posted:2 things would make me get an Alexa You can do the first, but ya second ain’t happening.
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:38 |
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GolfHole posted:actually its really really cool if you use it right I dunno, I thought Star Trek was more the exploring space and solving space problems then the having to talk to a computer to get a glass of water. I also just hate having to do that weird half-shout you have to do to make sure the thing understands you. GolfHole posted:*hands full of groceries, shoes on, coat on, just got in from work* Some stuff like the thermostat coming on at specific times to save money is good, I'll give you that. Why are you watching TV and playing music at the same time? r u ready to WALK posted:It can be both stupid and cool OP What a hobby to have. How many tallies do you have for people trying to peep through the mail slot? HerniaFlange fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Jan 7, 2020 |
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Saint Drogo posted:it's really loving weird and stupid that Alexa took off. it's like seeing people wearing google glass everywhere. It's virtually almost entirely about the ability to play music hands free. Audio has always been relatively arcane compared to other hardware. Used to be you'd need a receiver, speakers, deal with a bunch of wiring, etc. and then either put on a vinyl or tape. Boomboxes helped a lot and so did all-in-one players and disc format, but it's still a relatively laborious experience, switching out discs, etc. for a medium where you'd want to do so often to hear everything you wanted to. Even phones and Blutooth require some setup and input, regardless if it's as simple as connecting devices, but those still have inconsistencies and mess up while requiring some form of third party app unless you transfer music directly to your device which is still work in some fashion. With Alexa you set it up once, possibly connect Spotify, and you're set, just tell it to play whatever and it will. I'm not making any judgements about that or saying how you should feel about it, but almost everyone I know who has an Alexa thingy or Google Home uses it for music the majority of the time.
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:41 |
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A piece of home automation I could get behind is butler robot, I could tell them to bring me a pop or give me a hug because I'm sad or help me build a TV stand or something. I would also be cool with a robot arm that I could mount to my couch and have reach into other rooms and stuff to do things, I mostly just want it so I could pick up and move people who walk in front of the TV though.
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:47 |
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A smart thermostat seems like it could be useful, if they didn't gently caress things up by forcing them to be part of an entire home automation system. Your toaster doesn't need to know how cool you keep your house.
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 21:53 |
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Computer begin holodeck program, Riker's tight butthole
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r u ready to WALK posted:It can be both stupid and cool OP i'm going to get into this and close the garage door on your foot then laugh at you
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 22:04 |
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the cool thing about these is that when it's just sold to normal people they dont know how to secure it so you get things like https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/z3bbq4/podcast-livestreams-hacked-ring-cameras-nulledcastquote:A blaring siren suddenly rips through the Ring camera, startling the Florida family inside their own home. https://www.wmcactionnews5.com/2019/12/11/family-says-hackers-accessed-ring-camera-their-year-old-daughters-room/ quote:“First, what happened I was in the hallway I thought it was my sister because I hear music. It’s like ‘tiptoe through the window.’ So I come upstairs and I hear some banging noise and I am like ‘who is that’,” she said.
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 22:09 |
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I never have to get up to turn off lights when I realize I forgot to after I sat down with my bowl of popcorn. I don't have to fumble with a switch when I come in with hands full of groceries. When I get out of the shower and want to cross the living room I can close the curtains that my wife always leaves open without scaring the neighbors. I never forget food in the oven because I never bother with a timer, but asking the house to remind me is easy. I never lose my phone because the house finds it. I had to call my wife about some super important poo poo but she was asleep with the phone on mute, so from a different city I dropped in on the bedroom to yell at her to wake up while flicking the lights and her white noise generator on and off. When a repair or cable comes by I can let him in from wherever. Ditto for telling the UPS guy it's okay to leave packages at the door. If I wanna know what percentage of my pay this Christmas bonus was or how many teaspoons are in a gallon or to convert Fahrenheit/Celsius I just ask the house. I can tell the house to remind me to pick up toilet paper and dog food when it sees my phone leaving work, which is sooo much better than a timed reminder because I can have weird hours at the hospital. I'm not even gonna get into how awesome it gets when you toss a Roomba in the mix. Basically at this point my home is a host organism and I'm a parasite, and I love it. Having to remember not to plan any heists or do any drug deals in a room with the system on is a small price to pay, and targeted ads telling me when new Star Wars toys come out is a time saver.
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Quotey posted:the cool thing about these is that when it's just sold to normal people they dont know how to secure it so you get things like https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/z3bbq4/podcast-livestreams-hacked-ring-cameras-nulledcast I was going to troll the thread by saying that home automation is actually Hitler in disguise but here we are, reality is already better than my shitposting
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:It's virtually almost entirely about the ability to play music hands free. Audio has always been relatively arcane compared to other hardware. Yeah it takes multiple seconds to go on youtube and type in what I want to listen to. I just don't have that kind of time to waste with my busy jacking off schedule Admittedly the setup was quite difficult. Had to plug a cable into my speakers and an another one into the computer
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Quotey posted:the cool thing about these is that when it's just sold to normal people they dont know how to secure it so you get things like https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/z3bbq4/podcast-livestreams-hacked-ring-cameras-nulledcast It's not even just that consumers don't know how to secure it. It's also that the companies making "smart" household items NEVER update their firmware and for the most part don't really care about security when they are rushing out products as cheaply as possible. So once an exploit is found it will not be fixed.
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 22:29 |
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"But it was SO convenient to be able to set a timer without using any of the ones built into every appliance in my kitchen, and to perform all the metric/imperial conversations that are inexplicably a regular part of my home life" I say while a Discord server full of teenagers hurls racial slurs at my family.
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 22:32 |
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setting up alexa to dim the lights when i fart for dramatic effect
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 22:36 |
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It's counterintuitive to me to began a sentence by saying the name first.
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# ? Jan 7, 2020 22:36 |
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Pawn 17 posted:It's not even just that consumers don't know how to secure it. It's also that the companies making "smart" household items NEVER update their firmware and for the most part don't really care about security when they are rushing out products as cheaply as possible. So once an exploit is found it will not be fixed. this is true. probably also ends with you having to redo everytthing in 3 years once support ends for whatever has its claws in your net. also, all of your smart poo poo is powering huge botnets. your fridge and tv are working together to DDoS everything https://www.csoonline.com/article/3240364/what-is-a-botnet.html
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