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CrazyLoon posted:You'll have to forgive people for speculating this much, because after finding out that the moderation team, with full knowledge of an admin, was okay with one of their own pretending to be a nazi with other nazis in their communities, while brutally crushing leftist C-SPAM posters, and doing so in the defense of these forums (or at least one specific mod, who really thought this would make them safer and not more compromised) well... I am getting the impression now that no statement will be issued and tbh i am expecting cspam to get closed before any mods get punished or people get unbanned I am not convinced they arent still on PPJs side. If they werent they wouldnt be trying to create accounts that cant be held accountable. They could stop the speculation if they wanted to and they very clearly dont give a poo poo. Edit: have to say this isnt a commentary on squizzle and LK who have both at least tried but it seems like their hands are tied here Mirthless fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Jan 9, 2020 |
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Mocking Trump for being fat is fatshaming. It's wrong for the same reason that joking about Trump and Putin being in a homosexual relationship is wrong. It's still a staple of the Trump thread. lmfao
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AdmiralViscen posted:Thank you for answering! it wasnt my statement to make, and i wasnt involved in much of what it talked about (having been a mod for like a day and a half at that pt) or id try to make my own. i can check on whats happening wrt the whole thing
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freckle posted:oh lmao a dozen GBS posters terrified the Zizek-quoting boogeyman will get them: new top-level forum politics forum with irreconcilable differences with D&D, 600 regular users, and that many again lurking/browsing after recent events: never gonna happen, stop asking
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what's the exact justification for why the mods and admins should just get to huddle together in secret and decide on poo poo with no input after it's become clear that at least part of the team are absolutely incompetent when it comes to making decisions about how the forums should be run and by who?
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Jan 9, 2020 16:28
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Gumball Gumption posted:Considering jokes like that are one of the first steps in getting people to accept dehumanizing others, yeah. What's your opinion on the guard tower joke?
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Jan 9, 2020 16:28
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why exactly, two days later, have we still heard loving NOTHING from literally anyone involved? this is completely unacceptable. if yall were getting paid you'd be fired over this
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:a dozen GBS posters terrified the Zizek-quoting boogeyman will get them: new top-level forum This for the mf'n win
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Jan 9, 2020 16:29
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Squizzle posted:it wasnt my statement to make, and i wasnt involved in much of what it talked about (having been a mod for like a day and a half at that pt) or id try to make my own. i can check on whats happening wrt the whole thing At this point being the newest mod should give you the most power because it means you're not infected with whatever brain worm is getting passed around by them to think anything that has happened was good.
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Cerebral Bore posted:what's the exact justification for why the mods and admins should just get to huddle together in secret and decide on poo poo with no input after it's become clear that at least part of the team are absolutely incompetent when it comes to making decisions about how the forums should be run and by who? i assume the serious answer here is that this is a webforum and no one has to actually tell us anything
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razorrozar posted:why exactly, two days later, have we still heard loving NOTHING from literally anyone involved? this is completely unacceptable. The mods are protecting us from the truth and anyone who says otherwise can gently caress all the way off i am a victim please dont criticize me
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Gumball Gumption posted:At this point being the newest mod should give you the most power because it means you're not infected with whatever brain worm is getting passed around by them to think anything that has happened was good.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Mocking Trump for being fat is fatshaming. It's wrong for the same reason that joking about Trump and Putin being in a homosexual relationship is wrong. It's still a staple of the Trump thread. Actually one of these examples is fine and the other one is liberal cringe that doesn't belong on a leftist forum.
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Jan 9, 2020 16:31
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helsing what the gently caress is going on?
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Jan 9, 2020 16:32
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Squizzle posted:it wasnt my statement to make, and i wasnt involved in much of what it talked about (having been a mod for like a day and a half at that pt) or id try to make my own. i can check on whats happening wrt the whole thing If you do, you will likely legitimately handle this issue better than anyone else in the mod or admin team has up until now. So please, by all means.
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Cerebral Bore posted:what's the exact justification for why the mods and admins should just get to huddle together in secret and decide on poo poo with no input after it's become clear that at least part of the team are absolutely incompetent when it comes to making decisions about how the forums should be run and by who? Its no point in asking that question because the alternative will not happen any time soon.
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Jan 9, 2020 16:33
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Suplex Liberace posted:helsing what the gently caress is going on? Somebody please please explain the QCS accounts Please stop police unioning us It feels like the mods are just trying to protect their powerbase now
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Jan 9, 2020 16:33
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Gumball Gumption posted:People who show support to fascist ideology Wait this was a serious post? I know "nazi" is a catchall term in this thread, but I think people are starting to forget what fascism is. Anyway heres something people actually care about. 
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razorrozar posted:why exactly, two days later, have we still heard loving NOTHING from literally anyone involved? this is completely unacceptable. I dunno if it was KM who said it but apparently priority 1 after the fire was put out was to get everybody on the same page on what should be done. Which with the part time nature of "the job" well... Also perhaps all mods dont agree with each other.
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Jan 9, 2020 16:34
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Squizzle posted:it wasnt my statement to make, and i wasnt involved in much of what it talked about (having been a mod for like a day and a half at that pt) or id try to make my own. i can check on whats happening wrt the whole thing I know, I’m not blaming you, just saying. It seems to me that most of what would have been drafted a few days ago could be posted as-is and resolve at least half of the complaints. Not that I understand why this statement has to be so complicated, or why this can’t take the form of an admin having an open conversation instead of issuing another dead end decree. But, you know. Maybe admins could stop going into GBS to poo poo on c-spam after getting busted hanging out with a nazi guy too, lol
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Mirthless posted:I am getting the impression now that no statement will be issued and tbh i am expecting cspam to get closed before any mods get punished or people get unbanned the qcs stuff is its own thing. from what i can tell, the details on new qcs have been hashed out and refined over a long-ish period that begins well before the ppj stuff could have been a factor. that it became outwardly visible around the same time is a coïncidence; its just a reflection of how close the new qcs is to opening up
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Suplex Liberace posted:Why dies cum love talking about Nazis so much Squizzle posted:gosh its a mystery surely a six hr probation will correct the issue 
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Serf posted:i assume the serious answer here is that this is a webforum and no one has to actually tell us anything I mean, I hate to say it but yeah pretty much. The mods are pretty much always going to want to have a private space to discuss moderation and policy changes or whatever without the extra noise that something like a QCS thread brings. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but that people probably aren't going to get them to open up their "workspace" or whatever you want to call it to the public.
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Serf posted:i assume the serious answer here is that this is a webforum and no one has to actually tell us anything One would think that they’d have some interest in traffic retention and would have some motivation to at least throw a bone to their single largest community
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Squizzle posted:the qcs stuff is its own thing. from what i can tell, the details on new qcs have been hashed out and refined over a long-ish period that begins well before the ppj stuff could have been a factor. that it became outwardly visible around the same time is a coïncidence; its just a reflection of how close the new qcs is to opening up Have any idea on a response timeframe?
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I’m not even a C-SPAM poster lol, I’ve been reading the succ zone for a few weeks and that’s it
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AdmiralViscen posted:I’m not even a C-SPAM poster lol, I’ve been reading the succ zone for a few weeks and that’s it lurkers are part of the community. and should post
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Beet Wagon posted:I mean, I hate to say it but yeah pretty much. The mods are pretty much always going to want to have a private space to discuss moderation and policy changes or whatever without the extra noise that something like a QCS thread brings. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but that people probably aren't going to get them to open up their "workspace" or whatever you want to call it to the public. their work space is the fourms we all post in
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Squizzle posted:the qcs stuff is its own thing. from what i can tell, the details on new qcs have been hashed out and refined over a long-ish period that begins well before the ppj stuff could have been a factor. that it became outwardly visible around the same time is a coïncidence; its just a reflection of how close the new qcs is to opening up Maybe this decision needs to be reversed because it really comes across like the mods are more upset that he got caught than they are that he did something terrible. It doesn't matter when the decision was made, we have been shown that this is a bad idea and that this team cannoy absolutely full stop CAN NOT be trusted with any kind of opacity.
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Beet Wagon posted:I mean, I hate to say it but yeah pretty much. The mods are pretty much always going to want to have a private space to discuss moderation and policy changes or whatever without the extra noise that something like a QCS thread brings. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but that people probably aren't going to get them to open up their "workspace" or whatever you want to call it to the public. they don't have to let people post there, just make it visible so we can see what the gently caress is going on and people can't be punished without us knowing the real reasons why
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Serf posted:i assume the serious answer here is that this is a webforum and no one has to actually tell us anything Seconding this.
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AdmiralViscen posted:One would think that they’d have some interest in traffic retention and would have some motivation to at least throw a bone to their single largest community doesn't sa literally lose money as it is?
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White Rock posted:Seconding this. lol get out why should we be beholden to a decision-making process we're not even party to
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Beet Wagon posted:I mean, I hate to say it but yeah pretty much. The mods are pretty much always going to want to have a private space to discuss moderation and policy changes or whatever without the extra noise that something like a QCS thread brings. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but that people probably aren't going to get them to open up their "workspace" or whatever you want to call it to the public. It really isn't even needed. Just some sort of acknowledgment that this was all handled very poorly, an understanding of why exactly it was handled poorly and what steps will be undertaken for remedy. They can keep the privacy, but that doesn't excuse them from no communication with the user base whatsoever other than...the utter insanity that PPJ and the mods + admin that stood by him posted lol.
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freckle posted:squizzle answer for your crimes
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Mocking Trump for being fat is fatshaming. It's wrong for the same reason that joking about Trump and Putin being in a homosexual relationship is wrong. It's still a staple of the Trump thread. Trump is revered as the ideal representative and messiah figure of their fascist ubermensch philosophy and is typically portrayed as lean and muscular in pro-trump political cartoons and propaganda. I see no problem with pointing out and mocking the hypocritical lie of this since you clearly feel strongly about all this how do you reconcile your calls for tolerance with catching a week probe recently for saying you'd genocide every trump voter if you had the power to do so
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razorrozar posted:they don't have to let people post there, just make it visible so we can see what the gently caress is going on and people can't be punished without us knowing the real reasons why Just off the top of my head that strikes me as even less likely to happen, because it would immediately result in mods having to jump back and forth between the mod forum and the inevitable qcs thread that pops up for every post suggesting or discussing a decision that people don't like. Again, I'm anybody here is wrong to want more transparency, just that... if you're looking to be able to browse the mod forum you should probably temper your expectations. It's not something I can realistically see them doing. e: CrazyLoon posted:It really isn't even needed. Just some sort of acknowledgment that this was all handled very poorly, an understanding of why exactly it was handled poorly and what steps will be undertaken for remedy. They can keep the privacy, but that doesn't excuse them from no communication with the user base whatsoever other than...the utter insanity that PPJ and the mods + admin that stood by him posted lol. I agree that across the board the mod and admin team needs to be much better about communicating why they are changing things (or not changing things, or what's taking so long, etc.). I mean I'd also point out that I think you're probably ascribing a level of complexity to this insane 'Operation Finale' thing that doesn't really reflect what the mods knew and when, but in general yeah I agree with you. Beet Wagon fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Jan 9, 2020 |
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Serf posted:doesn't sa literally lose money as it is? If their goal is to shrink their most active forum then why not just delete all the boards and call it a day It’s not like the posters yukking it up with Jeffrey in the GBS thread are resuscitating the Patreon that the c-spam people have been withdrawing from
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