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Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

pentyne posted:

Any others? I know the banhammer means something but I assumed it was a D&D or old LF thing.

the banhammer is ancient. it predates both d&d and lf. way back when, there was no d&d, there was only current events (ce), which got rolled together with the old science and philosophy forum (s&p) to create a forum for enlightened debate and reasoned, factual discourse and ahahahahhah. this happened in the fall of 2002

the banhammer is referenced in morrowind, a game which came out in the spring of 2002

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Easter_Eggs#Arlowe_and_the_Banhammer

i dont think banhammer really means anything, it's just when you get banned it's like lowtax hits your account with a hammer, more or less

Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Jan 11, 2020

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Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
someone do me a solid and post the lane staley weed uncle story, thanks

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

SneezeOfTheDecade posted:

IIRC Icke found out about the anti-semitism thing and was furious, because god drat it, he literally means lizard people from outer space.

yeah, where 99% of the time "lizard people" is a coy reference to conspiracies about jewish world domination, david icke is over here being like "you fools, you morons, don't you see that the shadowy jewish cabal at the center of the financial system is itself a pawn of the transdimensional lizard people!"

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

pentyne posted:

I have him on ignore too but I've seen the phrase "months-long cross-forums grudge" posted by him a dozen times before then no matter who he is referring too. At this point its basically gang-stalking in his mind.

i've always liked people getting mad and saying things like "you follow me from thread to thread" as if the forums were some large city where a stalker is noticeable, instead of a particularly large and smelly dive bar where the same degenerates get in the same arguments every day

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
CWC is a real and very sad person but the internet people who are constantly tormenting her are also extraordinarily sad. for the last many years they've got some kind of hosed up dynamic going on where people will harass CWC very badly by pretending to be her friend, and then some of them become her frenemy, and the only social contact she really gets is from the dozen odd weirdos in the toxic little anti-fan club who can't leave her alone

Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Feb 4, 2020

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
i'm not a CWC expert or anything but my sense is that over the last decade it's gone from collecting CWC's online posts/videos to calling her to provoke more posts and videos, to setting up honeypots, to directly interacting with her on a daily basis while she begs her stalkers for money and sells off her personal stuff to then to try to make rent

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
as a palate cleanser, one of the other internet eccentrics of the mid aughts, ulillillia, got a job, moved out of his parents house, regularly goes outdoors for recreation and is now living his oddball truth as an independent adult. he's too busy to do more than blog about it on facebook but he recently bought all the components for a completely beastly gaming computer and it's an uphill battle to get the thing assembled

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
i doubt that because iirc ulillillia still chooses not to sit in chairs

he does make kick rear end gifs tho

Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Feb 4, 2020

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

pentyne posted:

Not to start Lowtax chat but either he just has the most terrible luck when hiring people to manage or do things for the website, or hes a delicate soul who constantly overlooks terrible human beings doing terrible things and gives them chance after chance to disappoint him.

he tends to hire people who post on the forums which means that forums updates are, technically, a Goon Project, and we know how those work out

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

The adage about perma’d posters holds true:

There’s nothing stopping most of them from reregging and flying under the radar, but if you manage to get perma’d chances are you’re incapable of flying under the radar.

Like, hmmm, who is this brand new guy who mainly wants to talk about turtlicious? Hmmm, who is this month-old babby poster being a belligerent troll about Iowa? who could they be

permabans who can't maintain an alternate posting persona are in the same fun tier as people who loudly decamp to an offsite and then quietly resume their regular posting after a short time

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Ruflux posted:

This is definitely a misconception if I ever heard one. Moot had a thread about 4chan on ADTRW for a while after all.

yeah, 4chan wasn't set up as a result of a purge, it was just a general offsite migration that was hastened by people getting probated/banned for being annoying about anime or posting anime porn in ADTRW

at the time there were two different goon P2P piracy servers, the something awful direct connect hub (SADCHUB) and raspberry heaven. SADCHUB was supposed to be for not-anime and raspberry heaven was for anime, but they were like 90% the same people logged into both. some of the earliest discussion of setting up an english language 2ch clone was on raspberry heaven. but the fact that there was an anime and not-anime split in the goon filesharing scene indicates the general conflict over anime that drove people to 4chan (also, you could post anime porn there)

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
it's also worth mentioning that in 2003 something awful was itself a porn torrenting forum so :shrug:

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
honestly at this point each permaban needs to be considered on the merits of if the something awful community can handle the drop in traffic

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
my personal opinion is that the biggest motivatior of strife over avs' ambiguous perma status is just "the RULES clearly STATE that" which seems at odds to me to the sort of barely managed chaos of something awful moderation, it's a tough job because someone will always be mad at any decision you make and probably send you tubgirl pics or post your job's office number about it

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Puppy Galaxy posted:

I don't know that it should be considered the same as "posting underage porn."

it totally isn't but the taxonomy of copy pasted fetish porn and how many pedophiles creep on the head of a pin is what we've decided to argue about to-day

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

EasilyConfused posted:

How is finding drugs on the ground common enough for this to be an issue.

i once saw a friend of mine find a pill on the sidewalk, say "oh sweet" and eat it. i was like what the gently caress dude, he said "it's an ibuprofin, no big deal" and i said that the identity of the pill was not the point. this same guy once found a plastic bag on the subway with a small amount of white powder inside, and tested the contents on his gums. it was cocaine. it was good cocaine. it was really, REALLY good cocaine. he was on his way to a job interview. he did not do well in the job interview.

also i was once hard up for weed during spring break. my guy was out of town, my other guy was out of town, so i walked down to the corner to see if there were any street dealers around. no luck. on my way back home moping and hanging my head, i spotted a dime bag under a bush. thanks weed fairy

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Shifty Nipples posted:

Magical thinking bugs me but at the same time I understand that some folks need to believe irrational things to maintain the will to live.

there's no specific correlation between religious belief and magical thinking. someone can be a christian and base their understanding of god in a philosophical framework of the unknowable and sublime, where there are aggressively atheist incels running around trying to cook up ways to trick women into sleeping with them despite the incels believing they have objectively ugly wrist bones. obviously religion encourages magical thinking but as the world becomes increasingly secular there are plenty of examples of people believing all kinds of weird stuff like detoxifying diets or 5g causes cancer

humans are inherently irrational, i believe, and it is only through intense concentration and effort that we can approach rational thought for brief stretches of time

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Elephant Ambush posted:

Since it came up, can someone please refresh my memory on Hulk Hogan Meat Shoes?

a goon half-remembers seeing commercials for hulk hogan branded shoes that had a compartment in the sole which would keep meat warm. this concept is so stunningly absurd that it kicks off a thread

https://www.somethingawful.com/comedy-goldmine/hulk-hogan-meatshoes/1/

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
thinking today about the goon who hid a boner by crawling backwards away from a woman while meowing

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

One More Fat Nerd posted:

Also, if i remember right, he was physically incapacitated (legs cramping, unable to move) after making it 6-7 miles in three days, which has always confused me. Like, i'm fat as hell and pushing 40, but i will walk a mile 1 way for lunch at work pretty regularly, and I'm 100% certain i could do that 3 days in a row without being rendered immobile

walking/running/jogging is one of those activities where regular participation will greatly increase your ability to do it. if i haven't gone hiking in a while i'll be sore the next day after like just a five mile round trip but if i've been going every other weekend or so i can do ten miles without a care. folks who do regular distance jogging or running can do dozens of miles at a stretch. so if this dude fell apart after a few miles he must have done no warmup or prep at all and just got straight off the couch

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
i also liked the bit where he was expecting media attention for his epic quest across america, like he's forrest gump or something. like yeah walking a super long distance is impressive and notable but it's also not really the kind of thing that gets on the news, a few hundreds of people through hike the appalachian trail every year and nobody cares

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Ghost Leviathan posted:

It sounds like Bioware games are best when they let you be a bisexual disaster

it's one of the things bioware rpgs are known for, the extreme promiscuity of the player character and their companions

in the bioware rpg jade empire, there was a regrettable quest path which would allow a male PC to get into a threesome with the two main female companion love interests

this was parodied in the witcher 3 by a quest chain which seems like it's leading up to a threesome between the two rival love interests (choosing between them is a big part of the game) but if you try to double dip they team up to rob you blind and then both of them hate you forever, you non-committal horny bastard

witcher 3 also has a quest where you just sit around drinking with your buddies and if you don't decide to go to bed you make increasingly poor and drunken decisions, leading to some very regretful and embarrassing consequences. it's a pretty good rpg

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
its worth remembering that while the ostensible purpose of many threads is dark comedy, goons tend toward being unfunny and spiteful much of the time

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
shameful rear end cat haulage

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
yeah, those threads are good but very deep nerdy about milhist stuff. here's one post i found about how dumb nazi uniforms are, because a lot of nazi gear was made to look good rather than work good and so it was often unnecessarily complex to manufacture and sucked anyway

Cessna posted:

It's a baggy cotton duck (Edit: with increasing rayon/synthetic content as the war goes on) smock with elastic at the waist and wrists.

It's reversible. One side has "Spring" colors (brown, green, black) and the other has "Fall" colors (brown, orange/brown, black).

The reversibility is silly. The smock has built-in pockets which turn inside-out to reverse with fully sewn flaps and buttons on both sides - but the pockets are situated under the Y-strap suspenders and gear so it's hard to get to them.





Best of all, the smock goes on OVER the regular wool feldgrau (field grey) uniform. Remember how I talked about the internal suspenders and aluminum hooks earlier? That's just part of it. A Wehrmacht feldbluse is a ridiculously complex garment. For comparison, a modern men's suit has about 20-25 pieces of cloth cut and sewn together. A feldbluse has over 80 - yes, 80 - pieces of cloth cut to pattern and sewn together, and that does not count the insignia. Every feldbluse - EVERY ONE - was tailored to the individual wearer. Yes, tailored.

Check out the chest pockets, for example. This is an early-war feldbluse:



Look at how the pockets have that curved scallop flap and the folded bellows design. That's not easy to make. By 1943 they had simplified the design to a simple patch-pocket, like this:



But here's the thing - they put all of that work into sewing MILLIONS of those pockets. Cutting the wool, folding it, sewing it on, attaching the pebbled metal buttons... But when you put on that camouflage smock you can't get to the pockets. They're useless. Put on the smock and you can't get to the internal suspenders and hooks either.

They sewed millions and millions of those complex pockets - and millions of the complex internal suspenders, and internal linings, and made hooks - and all of that was useless, wasted cloth and labor.

And, again, the answer is "because Nazis."

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
yeah it doesn't take much to tell a politically good ww2 thingknower from a closet nazi, because normal people who get deep into nazi politics or economics or whatever have a couple rants already teed up about what a shambles it all was and nowhere near at all the myth of efficient competency

like there are the superficial tank nerds who believe in the superiority of nazi tanks because they had the precise correct amount of armor or whatever. then there are the legit tank nerds who like to point out that the panther tank was terribly overweight, which would blow up the transmission far earlier then designed, and to replace the transmission you had to basically disassemble the entire front of the tank in a hours long process which is a very bad flaw to have in a combat vehicle!

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Mr. Fix It posted:

i used to hang with euronymous on the old #somethingawful irc channel that bobby the sperm whale stole/squatted. anyone know if there's anything saga-worthy in the story of #somethingawful? all i can recall is that it was semi-official for a bit, then bobby got banned and it became some sort of proto-offsite but with much less doxxing and more cliffyb using a creative slurmanteau to insult my username.

synirc, the DC hubs, and various teamspeak servers as proto offsites is a very dusty and boring era of SA drama history. everything stupid that happened there eventually filtered back to the forums. probably the most egregious thing was the creation of 4chan from a cultural exodus of anime posters seeking refuge for 2d titty pics

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
boniface and a lot of the fyad heavy hitters of a decade ago just ended up moving to twitter. plenty of goons just stop posting all the time on the site over the years for various reasons, but this set maintained something of a continuity of community by doing the same posting voice on twitter. otherwise there's nothing much different about them than any other folks who just get less online as they age, or at least stop hanging around dead forums

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Ugly In The Morning posted:

I was thinking a thread more for those 2000’s sites that are just... weird. Forums of people talking about how they died in the Elf Wars, Dozerfleet, the dude that wrote stories of Roy Orbison being wrapped in cling film, bad fanfiction, godwives, plushfucker forums, Timecube (or anything with that kind of rambling paired with the web design that changes a bunch that says “whoever made this is staunchly in favor of Cocoa Puffs”) with a strict ban on any social media content because that way leads to madness and cataloguing minutiae of the lives of sad nerds.

i bought the novel of this and it's an excellent thing to loan to people

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
i have no idea if robin williams was a goon or not, but he was definitely a big nerd who played warhams and video games during the era when something awful would have been hot poo poo in gaming circles. whether a famous, wealthy, fifty year old man would have posted on a web forum i dunno, but williams was somewhat in that demographic so it's plausible at least



i think this is at a quake con in 2002. the guy on the right is john carmack, who is one of the big names in computer gaming - he was the lead creator for the graphics engines behind doom, quake, and quake 2, and can be arguably called the father of first person shooters. the guy in the middle is trent reznor, whose band nine inch nails did the soundtrack for quake and quake 2. the guy on the left had no formal connection to quake or id software, he was just a big fan :)

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Hub Cat posted:

What about drops..oh


Hypnospace Outlaw, House of the Dying Sun and Brigador are all very good and I'm sure there's more I'm not aware of or remembering
There's also a handful of developers that work at larger companies that show up occasionally like ropekid and one of the developers from Cdprojekt Red shows up in their threads.

ropekid is probably the most famous person confirmed to be 100% original goon

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Charles posted:

It's just the way computer systems work. Time is counted in seconds since Jan 1 1970 on Unix systems. That's why there's a year 2038 problem on 32 bit systems. You run out of bits to store the time. Actually maybe the forums could take a negative number? Go all the way back to 1901? Who knows.

if it's sql then unless the datetime field is weird or signed or something the earliest would be the second before the stroke of midnight, 1899-1900

that sid's regdate is exactly dec 31 1969 indicates it's probably unix time, since 0 datetime would be 23:59:59 on that date

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Moon Slayer posted:

This has been the fourth or fifth time the Forums have been "just about to close down" in the last handful of years alone. I won't believe it until the day I try to log in and nothing happens.

the forums demise has long been inevitable due to entropy from more goons leaving than arriving, and something like this is going to catalyze people's exit from the forums

the community will disperse to any number of offsites which, because goons hate each other most of all, will slowly die

it's worth it if lowtax goes broke or to jail because he is an abuser

Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Jun 24, 2020

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

corgski posted:

Honestly if Jeffery were to spin up a forum and get most of the mods to follow I'd go there in a heartbeat. It's the quality moderation of SA that makes it worthwhile, not the url in the address bar.

you'd need someone like jeffery with a lot of support from the admins to set up a clone site because it's a huge lift in term of time and money. feasible but you'd only get one chance at it because if enough of the community doesn't move along as well (i think the mood is there for enough people to migrate) it would just completely fracture the SA userbase

it would be necessary to recreate the subforum structure as closely as possible to allow the subcommunities and thread cliques to restore themselves, and you'd also have to let people migrate their current accounts over through the paywall, which would mean scraping or stealing the users table

i dont think it would be necessary to move over archives or old posts or anything. make a clean break with the past

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
lol that the stickied lowtax wife beating thread in gbs is bringing out the secret kiwifarms posters

don't check that thread at work btw it's an Autonomous Zone

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

StratGoatCom posted:

I still think that if Jeff could buy the forums, that would be ideal simply so we don't lose folks in the transition... given the state of the world, I unironically suspect a collapse of SA may have a body count.

Don't get me wrong, if we gotta migrate, then we gotta go. But if Jeff can, then he should.

the only issue i see here is that i doubt lowtax would sell the forums for any reasonable price

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Len posted:

That meltdown was great, wasn't the dude demanding they should use calipers or some poo poo?

that poster has snapped at me in the past for similar reasons, i think they have a tremendously literal perspective of the world

it doesn't surprise me that the concept of a die manufacturer not caring enough to ensure true randomness in their product would enrage them

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

RFC2324 posted:

That is beyond bad, its like they were deliberately trying for so bad its good and missed by a country mile

they wildly misunderstood the nostalgia for duke nukem 3d (it was a merely competent, not good, shooter at the dawn of first person shooters when bare adequacy was amazing by the standards of the day) and they thought that what people wanted was to dial up the ridiculous over the top misogyny and posturing bad assery of the main character. turns out nobody wanted that and they greatly missed the mark on how to make something like this with the satirical edge it needed instead of being played straight and sincerely as some toxic power fantasy

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Dillbag posted:

Wasn't there a goon that wrote a script that put every other user on ignore and in doing so crashed the forums?

yeah, there was someone who had so many people on ignore that first off, it hosed up the forums, and second off, nobody knows how or why this person did it but they only posted in coupons so it was probably some nerd version of scraping deals by ignoring everyone who didn't have deals. they were banned on the grounds that if you want to ignore more then ten thousand other posters then you can gently caress right off

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Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Snowy posted:

Sounds like a whole lotta people in here sitting at computers, wtf.

There’s phones these days, you don’t have to do that anymore

mostly i hate the idea of not being able to get up away from a computer without the internet following along in my pocket. like if i'm not in front of a computer then i am entirely Logged Off and it's nice to have that boundary

i'm at the point of being a "i dont have a smartphone" holdout that people offer to buy me smartphones

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