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exCLOUDyGH López posted:My voting is for: I always enjoy these write-ups, I'd love to comment on a few points but I don't want to spoil anything. As much as I know the judge's answers I'm going into the actual gameplay as blind as you all are. My gun knowledge is pretty limited and after a quick search, it seems like T11 is the ammo type and not the model. I'm slightly confused by the inclusion of a Mauser as it also seems like the first pistol that they manufactured was the C1896, six years after the events of this case.
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My googling can't really turn up anything on a Mauser pistol either. If what I found for "Lefaucheux" is the same pistol it does seem to be a large calibre. Anyways I think we need to head to the Elephant & Castle to follow up the potential witness and HR Murray for the evidence. Lindsay & Co and Landmark Ltd for the obvious reasons. Given what we've found Curtis Twiggs may be responsible for only 1 of the deaths we have which makes me question if he and his possible victim have any actual connection. He certainly seems to have robbed the other victims but that could have just been opportunity? I say we head to the Tankerville Club as well. As per your hint send the Irregulars to Lestrade because I do hate tricks like that.
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The voting is over and these are the results: Drummond Bank - 3 Elephant & Castle - 1 Landmark, Ltd. - 5 Lindsay & Co. - 5 Cyril Maude - 4 H.R. Murray - 5 Tankerville Club - 2 Irregulars: H.R. Murray?! - 1 Inspector Lestrade - 2 This will be the order of visitation for the next update. You're going to get such a kick out of one of the visits! Lindsay & Co. Landmark, Ltd. H.R. Murray Cyril Maude Drummond Bank Irregulars: Inspector Lestrade
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Let's All Play Sherlock Holmes: Consulting Detective - The Thames Murders (Update #3) Notebook (New clues will be spoilered.) 1. Inspector Gregson visited us upon the request of Inspector Lestrade who would like us to solve "The Thames Murders". In the last week, four bodies have been found floating in the river. A fifth body, that of Roland Jaquard, was found under the Charing Cross footbridge early this morning. Jaquard was the stepson of Lord Astley Denham, he had a reputation as a mountebank and a ne'er-do-well. He spent most of his time at the card tables in the Bagatelle Club, he was one of the finest whist players in London. Jaquard was also a known womaniser. Lestrade is currently still working on the other murders in this case. The other four people that were found are: Charles Attard, Cyril Maude, Nathan Revell and Leo Shepherd. 2. We met with Robert Adair at the Bagatelle Club. Nathan Revell and Roland Jaquard were both members of the club. Adair and Revell frequently played as partners against Jaquard and Sebastian Moran, who were two of the best players at the club. At first, Adair and Revell had started to win but their luck soon changed and they couldn't win a round no matter how good their cards were. He doesn't believe that Jaquard & Moran were cheating because they are gentlemen. He has also has admitted to placing small wagers on their games but he doesn't know how much money Revell had been wagering. Adair last saw Revell the night before he was murdered. They were playing cards against Moran & Jaquard until midnight and didn't win a game all night. Revell became upset and had a disagreement with Moran. On the night of Revell's murder, Adair was having a drink with at the club with Moran. Moran waited until eight o'clock for Revell to show up, he became upset by his absence and decided to leave the club. Moran asked Adair to pass a message on to Revell if he did show up asking him to meet Moran at the Tankerville Club. Adair last saw Jaquard last night around 2030, he had been at the club since 1630. He received a postal telegram, after reading it he jumped from his chair and said that he had unexpected business. Adair hasn't seen Moran for several days and believes that he is currently on the continent.   3. Jaquard's maid assures us that his room is as he left it. She hadn't seen him since going home early after leaving dinner out for him and a guest. Holmes' found two pistols in a drawer, a Mauser T11 and a La Faucheaux pistol. The La Faucheaux has recently fired three shots, the Mauser hasn't been fired within the last couple of days. There were also letters of credit totalling thousands of pounds in the drawer. Watson found Jaquard's wallet which contained £140 and a recent playbill from the Elephant & Castle Theatre. Jaquard's maid didn't see who he was entertaining last night but she has informed us that when she arrived this morning, she had discovered that the Persian rug had gone missing. She has also advised us to speak to Bettina Ivory, Jaquard's next-door neighbour. 4. Sir Jasper Meek had gone home by the time that the detectives arrived he has left information with the Irregulars. 5. Lestrade had decided that he doesn't need our help. Unfortunately, his report on the case seems to have gone missing. 6. Lord Astley Denham had a very poor opinion of Roland Jaquard. He didn't like the fact that Jaquard spent his time gambling and sleeping around, so he kicked him out of the house six years ago. Denham seems to be surprised that Jaquard hadn't been killed sooner. 7. The Irregulars visited the Raven & Rat Inn. Porky told them that Leo Shephard is Curtis Twiggs. 8. Two years ago, Charles Attard gave instructions to his sister that in the event of his death she was to collect a box and hold onto it until it was called for. She wasn't told who was going to collect it, but this person would possess a letter from Charles with instructions to show it to her when they came to collect it. The box contains files filled with a variety of financial records from Lindsay & Co, they contained securities and bonds. 9. According to Faye Shepherd, Leo is alive and well and went out to sea four weeks ago. Lestrade seems to think otherwise as he informed her of his death and accompanied her to St. Bartholomew's to identify a body. Leo's wallet was stolen before he left and was found on the dead body. 10. We spoke to Revell's landlady who said that she has left Revell's room exactly as he left it. He worked through the day, spent most of the evening the club at night and occasionally visited her for a game of whist. His room contains a broken window which she only noticed when she was showing a policeman his room the day after his murder. 11. Ivory Bettina informed us that she noticed a woman running out of Jaquard's house last night at 0030 and got into a passing hansom. About an hour later a delivery wagon from Landmark, Ltd pulled up to Jaquard's house, a man went to the door and after a few minutes two men came out carrying a rug. They put it into the wagon and then drove away. 12. Curtis Twiggs gave up his room four days ago. He left a bag with the landlord and told him that he would be back for it but didn't say when he would be back. The landlord let us search his bag, for a price, it contained the following items: A gold watch with the initial CA engraved on the back. Several pieces of jewellery and rings. Two wallets with the identifications of Charles Attard and Nathan Revell. A seven inch stiletto with a pearl handle. 13. The Irregulars gave us the report from Sir Jasper Meek:            14. Holmes spoke to Mr. Patterson at Lindsy & Co. who told us that Nathan Revell has embezzled over £6000 of negotiable securities and letters of credit. Parrison doesn't know how Revell accomplished this as only Parrison and his partner know their clients portfolios. Revell would have had to request each security by, by number, from the right bank and securities have been found missing from three banks. Mr. Lindsay was Parrisons partner until he died four years ago and now his wife, Kathleen Lindsay, owns his shares. Jeffrey Farber is now Parrisons business partner as Kathleen Lindsay doesn't actively participate in the business. 15. The owner of Landmark Ltd informed us that he only has one wagon and one employ, Juan Escobedo. The owner wasn't aware that Escobedo had taken the wagon to Jaquard's last night and wondered why there was a rug in the back of it this morning. Escobedo was told not to take the wagon without telling the owner. Escobedo has called in sick today. 16. H.R. Murray was not in his office when we went to visit him. (I'll tell you under clue 19 whether you need to send in the Irregulars or not.) 17. Watson searched through Cyril Maude's room and found an old sea chest. The chest contained the following items: £200 in cash. A box of Mauser 11mm shells. A Webley revolver. 18. Nathan Revell's history with Drummond Bank: "On May 6 Nathan Revell opened an account with a hundred pound Bank Draft drawn on the Bank of England. Approximately six thousand pounds in various Letters of Credit were deposited into that account during the month. On May 30, Mr Revell withdrew the Letters of Credit he had on deposit and closed his account." 19. The Irregulars were responsible for Lestrade's missing report: (Unspoilered for ease of life.)       H.R. Murray hint: You probably have already guessed it, we need to send the Irregulars! Locations Banks - Bank Of England - Established in 1694, the Bank of England is the only financial institute in the city with the legal authority to issue paper money. In 1834, they moved to their current building located on Threadneedle-street. Chambers, Ralph - Nothing on file. Elephant & Castle - Wonderful, vaudevillian entertainment. Ellis, Henry (London Times) - Baker Street Regular. Escobedo, Juan - Nothing on file. Escobedo, Marco - Nothing on file. Farber, Jeffrey - Nothing on file. Garcia, Letitia - Miss Garcia is a Spanish actress who once came to me in her search for her missing brother, Geronimo. Gunsmith - Grant Arms Co. - Grant Arms has been selling and manufacturing firearms since the early 1800s. They began operations with the fashioning of an improved breechblock rifle which they made available to the public with a generous supply of the newly invented smokeless gunpowder. It is currently England's largest small arms and artillery manufacturer. Courtney Allen was president until he was brutally murdered in March of 1888. He left behind his widow, Beatrice. Gunsmith - M. Richards Gunsmith - M. Richards is one of the best suppliers of pistols in London. Gunsmith - Rigby & Co. - A small gun shoppe located on the southwest end of London. It is run by a pleasant fellow by the name of Ken Tarolla, whose affability rather than a large and varied stock of firearms, keeps him in business. Hall, Edward (Old Bailey) - Baker Street Regular. Hogg, Quentin (Police Gazette) - Baker Street Regular. Lindsay, Kathleen - Nothing on file. London Library - Baker Street Regular. Mettier, Yves - Nothing on file. Millbank Prison - Of late, there is much controversy surrounding Millbank Prison. Maintaining a prison near to the Houses of Parliament has a vociferous vowing to tear it down by 1893. Once, Watson and I nearly arrived on the doorstep of the prison. We had missed boarding the Aurora and had to cross the river by wherry, which landed a stone's throw from the prison walls. O'Brian, Disraeli (Office Of Records) - Baker Street Regular. Ogilvie, Sir Lester - Sir Lester Ogilvie inherited great wealth from his parents when they both perished in a carriage accident. He is a great collector of egg specimens and performs exacting experiments on them, although no one in the scientific community quite comprehends what these experiments are meant to prove. He is, by all accounts, an odd bird. Pike, Langdale (Society Club) - Baker Street Regular. Randolph, Vincent - Vincent Randolph has made a considerable fortune running a shipping line between England and the Orient. He is married to the former Linda Thurston-Eliot. Raven & Rat Inn (Shinwell, Porky) - Baker Street Regular. Ring, The - The Ring is a famous landmark in London - famous for boxing, wrestling, and Sunday Shakespeare. Ironically, it was originally London's first Sunday School. It was built in 1782 as a chapel for Rowland Hill, who preached here for fifty years. Located on Surrey Row. Rooker, Jeanette - Mrs Rooker is the former Jeanette Jaquard. She married her husband, Charles Rooker in 1879, much to the disapproval of her youngest brother, Roland. Somerset House - Baker Street Regular. Spaniards Inn - Spaniard's is a small elegant restaurant across from St James Square. Several years ago, Watson and I slipped away in the middle of many a dreary day to dine on their paella. Tankerville Club - The Tankerville Social Club serves the best prime rib in London. Watson, however, swears that they water down their drinks. Card playing is taken most seriously here. Unvisitable locations of note. Emhoe, Ivan - Mr Emhoe has been a clerk at Drummond's Bank for 37 years. Moran, Sebastian - Chief of Staff for Moriarty. Moran attempted to murder me on two occasions following Moriarty's death - once at Reichenbach Falls and once in London. Obviously I got the better of the man. In spite of his arrest for the murder of Ronald Adair, he managed to escape the gallows. Moran was at one time an officer in the Indian Army and a heavy game hunter. Time to vote! You can choose up to, and including, five more locations for the detectives to visit. You're also free to send the Irregulars to one location. It's too early to call for an end to the case. We have visited two out of seven key locations. Voting will end Saturday 12th of September at 2215 GMT. Rocket Baby Dolls fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Sep 13, 2020 |
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exCLOUDyGH López posted:My voting is for:
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Rocket Baby Dolls posted:15. The owner of Landmark Ltd informed us that he only has one wagon and one employ, Juan Escobedo. The owner wasn't aware that Escobedo had taken the wagon to Jaquard's last night and wondered why there was a rug in the back of it this morning. Escobedo was told not to take the wagon without telling the owner. Escobedo has called in sick today. Wait a second.... Escobedo????? differentiating posted:ETA: Another thought upon rereading the newspaper - Jaquard had a playbill for the Elephant & Castle theater, where Ms. Letitia Garcia is currently acting, and Ivory saw a woman running from the house right around the time he would've been killed...  We need to visit Juan Escobedo post-haste to see if he has any ties or relation to Marco. If so, we can pretty conclusively wrap up Jaquard's murder, and turn our attention to the other 4. I don't think there's any need to visit Elephant & Castle directly at this point, and while we could confront Marco now, he'd probably lie to us if he is indeed involved. He could even blame any injuries on his pugilism. Agreed that investigating Farber and Lindsay could give us more information about the embezzlement. Annoying that H.R. Murray is out - I feel like this is one of the issues with the irregulars mechanic, as there seems to be no indication of when they would be indicated. Let's send the irregulars there. And we still need to go to the Tankerville Club to wrap up that loose end - we still have questions about the others' deaths, after all. I doubt it'll be as nice and simple as "Twiggs killed the first three, Jaquard killed Twiggs, Marco killed Jaquard" if we still have 5 missing key locations. Plus, there's clear evidence that these 5 men are interconnected - Jaquard had multiple Letters of Credit consistent with those withdrawn by Revell, Twiggs had the wallets of Attard/Revell as well as Attard's watch, Maude has ammo matching the Mauser T11 found in Jaquard's room... We know that the order of death goes Revell > Maude > Attard > Twiggs > Jaquard, so could this be a series of robberies over the significant money Revell had? Not sure where would be best as a 5th location. I still want to hear how Porky knew it was Twiggs who died and not Shepherd, but is it worth using a visit when we're likely to get the same info? But then again, we know some of these men have ties to the criminal underworld/Moriarty, and if Porlock isn't able to be visited, maybe Porky's our best option? I'm going to put that down for now, but I may change my mind if someone has a better idea of where to investigate. Juan Escobedo Tankerville Club Jeffery Farber Kathleen Linday Raven & Rat Inn and the Irregulars to H.R. Murray
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The print version presents the details about the guns found in Jaquard's room a bit differently (notably it also tells you the calibre of the La Faucheaux), but I do not know if that represents a material change in the case. Also surprised there is no clue for Porlock here (the print game's picture of a marionette is one of the more memorable drawings in it).
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We're still only at 2 out of 7 huh? Tough case. I don't know exactly how much money the credit notes actually are relative to the year but maybe this a "Joker bank robbery" situation where everyone is betraying everyone else to get a slightly bigger piece at the end. Anyways sigh yes Irregulars to Murray. I guess the pattern should have been recognized. Besides that in no particular order... We've got the prison and certainly criminals spending time there coming up again so lets investigate Millbank Prison. I have doubts that directly investigating Juan Escobedo will actually turn anything up but not much else to do with that name otherwise. The Tankerville Club is still too tantalizing to pass by. The money is still the most concrete motive we have so keep following it with Jeffery Farber.
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The voting is over and these are the results: Juan Escobedo - 3 Jeffrey Farber - 3 Kathleen Lindsay - 2 Millbank Prison - 2 Raven & Rat Inn - 1 Spaniard's Inn - 1 Tankerville Club - 2 Irregulars: H. R. Murray - 3 Here is who we will be visiting in the next update: Juan Escobedo Jeffrey Farber Millbank Prison Tankerville Club Kathleen Lindsay Irregulars: H. R. Murray Edit: I've just realised that I'm a day late with this. Rocket Baby Dolls fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Sep 13, 2020 |
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Let's All Play Sherlock Holmes: Consulting Detective - The Thames Murders (Update #4) Notebook (New clues will be spoilered.) 1. Inspector Gregson visited us upon the request of Inspector Lestrade who would like us to solve "The Thames Murders". In the last week, four bodies have been found floating in the river. A fifth body, that of Roland Jaquard, was found under the Charing Cross footbridge early this morning. Jaquard was the stepson of Lord Astley Denham, he had a reputation as a mountebank and a ne'er-do-well. He spent most of his time at the card tables in the Bagatelle Club, he was one of the finest whist players in London. Jaquard was also a known womaniser. Lestrade is currently still working on the other murders in this case. The other four people that were found are: Charles Attard, Cyril Maude, Nathan Revell and Leo Shepherd. 2. We met with Robert Adair at the Bagatelle Club. Nathan Revell and Roland Jaquard were both members of the club. Adair and Revell frequently played as partners against Jaquard and Sebastian Moran, who were two of the best players at the club. At first, Adair and Revell had started to win but their luck soon changed and they couldn't win a round no matter how good their cards were. He doesn't believe that Jaquard & Moran were cheating because they are gentlemen. He has also has admitted to placing small wagers on their games but he doesn't know how much money Revell had been wagering. Adair last saw Revell the night before he was murdered. They were playing cards against Moran & Jaquard until midnight and didn't win a game all night. Revell became upset and had a disagreement with Moran. On the night of Revell's murder, Adair was having a drink with at the club with Moran. Moran waited until eight o'clock for Revell to show up, he became upset by his absence and decided to leave the club. Moran asked Adair to pass a message on to Revell if he did show up asking him to meet Moran at the Tankerville Club. Adair last saw Jaquard last night around 2030, he had been at the club since 1630. He received a postal telegram, after reading it he jumped from his chair and said that he had unexpected business. Adair hasn't seen Moran for several days and believes that he is currently on the continent. 3. Jaquard's maid assures us that his room is as he left it. She hadn't seen him since going home early after leaving dinner out for him and a guest. Holmes' found two pistols in a drawer, a Mauser T11 and a La Faucheaux pistol. The La Faucheaux has recently fired three shots, the Mauser hasn't been fired within the last couple of days. There were also letters of credit totalling thousands of pounds in the drawer. Watson found Jaquard's wallet which contained £140 and a recent playbill from the Elephant & Castle Theatre. Jaquard's maid didn't see who he was entertaining last night but she has informed us that when she arrived this morning, she had discovered that the Persian rug had gone missing. She has also advised us to speak to Bettina Ivory, Jaquard's next-door neighbour. 4. Sir Jasper Meek had gone home by the time that the detectives arrived he has left information with the Irregulars. 5. Lestrade had decided that he doesn't need our help. Unfortunately, his report on the case seems to have gone missing. 6. Lord Astley Denham had a very poor opinion of Roland Jaquard. He didn't like the fact that Jaquard spent his time gambling and sleeping around, so he kicked him out of the house six years ago. Denham seems to be surprised that Jaquard hadn't been killed sooner. 7. The Irregulars visited the Raven & Rat Inn. Porky told them that Leo Shephard is Curtis Twiggs. 8. Two years ago, Charles Attard gave instructions to his sister that in the event of his death she was to collect a box and hold onto it until it was called for. She wasn't told who was going to collect it, but this person would possess a letter from Charles with instructions to show it to her when they came to collect it. The box contains files filled with a variety of financial records from Lindsay & Co, they contained securities and bonds. 9. According to Faye Shepherd, Leo is alive and well and went out to sea four weeks ago. Lestrade seems to think otherwise as he informed her of his death and accompanied her to St. Bartholomew's to identify a body. Leo's wallet was stolen before he left and was found on the dead body. 10. We spoke to Revell's landlady who said that she has left Revell's room exactly as he left it. He worked through the day, spent most of the evening the club at night and occasionally visited her for a game of whist. His room contains a broken window which she only noticed when she was showing a policeman his room the day after his murder. 11. Ivory Bettina informed us that she noticed a woman running out of Jaquard's house last night at 0030 and got into a passing hansom. About an hour later a delivery wagon from Landmark, Ltd pulled up to Jaquard's house, a man went to the door and after a few minutes two men came out carrying a rug. They put it into the wagon and then drove away. 12. Curtis Twiggs gave up his room four days ago. He left a bag with the landlord and told him that he would be back for it but didn't say when he would be back. The landlord let us search his bag, for a price, it contained the following items: A gold watch with the initial CA engraved on the back. Several pieces of jewellery and rings. Two wallets with the identifications of Charles Attard and Nathan Revell. A seven inch stiletto with a pearl handle. 13. The Irregulars gave us the report from Sir Jasper Meek: (I have unspoilered the images to make life easier) 14. Holmes spoke to Mr. Parrison at Lindsy & Co. who told us that Nathan Revell has embezzled over £6000 of negotiable securities and letters of credit. Parrison doesn't know how Revell accomplished this as only Parrison and his partner know their clients portfolios. Revell would have had to request each security by, by number, from the right bank and securities have been found missing from three banks. Mr. Lindsay was Parrisons partner until he died four years ago and now his wife, Kathleen Lindsay, owns his shares. Jeffrey Farber is now Parrisons business partner as Kathleen Lindsay doesn't actively participate in the business. 15. The owner of Landmark Ltd informed us that he only has one wagon and one employ, Juan Escobedo. The owner wasn't aware that Escobedo had taken the wagon to Jaquard's last night and wondered why there was a rug in the back of it this morning. Escobedo was told not to take the wagon without telling the owner. Escobedo has called in sick today. 16. H.R. Murray was not in his office when we went to visit him. 17. Watson searched through Cyril Maude's room and found an old sea chest. The chest contained the following items: £200 in cash. A box of Mauser 11mm shells. A Webley revolver. 18. Nathan Revell's history with Drummond Bank: "On May 6 Nathan Revell opened an account with a hundred pound Bank Draft drawn on the Bank of England. Approximately six thousand pounds in various Letters of Credit were deposited into that account during the month. On May 30, Mr Revell withdrew the Letters of Credit he had on deposit and closed his account." 19. The Irregulars were responsible for Lestrade's missing report: (Unspoilered for ease of life.) 20. We visited a very drunk Juan Escobedo who denies murdering Jaquard. He claims that the murderer is his brother, Marco Escobedo. 21. Jeffrey Farber told us that he has spent a busy day at the Bank Of England and the Drummond Bank. He was trying to discover the extent of the loss that Revell has caused to his firm. Once Revell knew the accounts and the account numbers he was able to transfer the money from them into letters of credit or any other account of his choosing. Farber doesn't know how Revell got this information as only he and Neil Patterson has access to this information. Kathleen Lindsay also has access to this information but all of her business dealings with the firm are handled by Charles Attard. Neil Patterson (Not Parrison) is in the directory:  22. We spoke once more with Andrew Devine at Millbank Prison. He knew Cyril Maude and claims that he was a bad egg who didn't make any friends during his stay. The person who he was closest too was his cellmate, Curtis Twiggs. Curtis Twiggs was released in 1886 and won't be missed.  23. Loren Jarett, the maître d' of the Tankerville Club, remembered Roland Jaquard very well. On the evening of March 30th, Jaquard arrived at 7:30 pm and was joined by Kathleen Lindsay and ordered a bottle of Gruaud Larose '76 to accompany their duck. They left at midnight but not before being joined by Colonel Sebastian Moran, he arrived at 9:10 and had one drink with them before leaving at 9:45. The last time that Jarett saw Jaquard was June 1st, he spent most of the afternoon in the game room and came into the dining room to eat alone at 8:30 and had left at 9:30.  24. Kathleen Lindsay informed us that she knew three of the victims. Charles Attard was her solicitor, Roland Jaquard was her friend and Nathan Revell worked for Lindsay & Company. Jaquard and Attard knew each other and were friends and had introduced Lindsay to Attard. Lindsay assumes that Attard met Revell when he went to the firm to handle her business affairs, but it was never mentioned to her. She doesn't believe that Jaquard new Revell at all. 25. H. R. Murray's report given to the Irregulars: (Unspoilered etc...)            Locations Banks - Bank Of England - Established in 1694, the Bank of England is the only financial institute in the city with the legal authority to issue paper money. In 1834, they moved to their current building located on Threadneedle-street. Chambers, Ralph - Nothing on file. Elephant & Castle - Wonderful, vaudevillian entertainment. Ellis, Henry (London Times) - Baker Street Regular. Escobedo, Marco - Nothing on file. Garcia, Letitia - Miss Garcia is a Spanish actress who once came to me in her search for her missing brother, Geronimo. Gunsmith - Grant Arms Co. - Grant Arms has been selling and manufacturing firearms since the early 1800s. They began operations with the fashioning of an improved breechblock rifle which they made available to the public with a generous supply of the newly invented smokeless gunpowder. It is currently England's largest small arms and artillery manufacturer. Courtney Allen was president until he was brutally murdered in March of 1888. He left behind his widow, Beatrice. Gunsmith - M. Richards Gunsmith - M. Richards is one of the best suppliers of pistols in London. Gunsmith - Rigby & Co. - A small gun shoppe located on the southwest end of London. It is run by a pleasant fellow by the name of Ken Tarolla, whose affability rather than a large and varied stock of firearms, keeps him in business. Hall, Edward (Old Bailey) - Baker Street Regular. Hogg, Quentin (Police Gazette) - Baker Street Regular. London Library - Baker Street Regular. Mettier, Yves - Nothing on file. O'Brian, Disraeli (Office Of Records) - Baker Street Regular. Ogilvie, Sir Lester - Sir Lester Ogilvie inherited great wealth from his parents when they both perished in a carriage accident. He is a great collector of egg specimens and performs exacting experiments on them, although no one in the scientific community quite comprehends what these experiments are meant to prove. He is, by all accounts, an odd bird. Pike, Langdale (Society Club) - Baker Street Regular. Randolph, Vincent - Vincent Randolph has made a considerable fortune running a shipping line between England and the Orient. He is married to the former Linda Thurston-Eliot. Raven & Rat Inn (Shinwell, Porky) - Baker Street Regular. Ring, The - The Ring is a famous landmark in London - famous for boxing, wrestling, and Sunday Shakespeare. Ironically, it was originally London's first Sunday School. It was built in 1782 as a chapel for Rowland Hill, who preached here for fifty years. Located on Surrey Row. Rooker, Jeanette - Mrs Rooker is the former Jeanette Jaquard. She married her husband, Charles Rooker in 1879, much to the disapproval of her youngest brother, Roland. Somerset House - Baker Street Regular. Spaniards Inn - Spaniard's is a small elegant restaurant across from St James Square. Several years ago, Watson and I slipped away in the middle of many a dreary day to dine on their paella. Unvisitable locations of note. Emhoe, Ivan - Mr Emhoe has been a clerk at Drummond's Bank for 37 years. Moran, Sebastian - Chief of Staff for Moriarty. Moran attempted to murder me on two occasions following Moriarty's death - once at Reichenbach Falls and once in London. Obviously I got the better of the man. In spite of his arrest for the murder of Ronald Adair, he managed to escape the gallows. Moran was at one time an officer in the Indian Army and a heavy game hunter. Time to vote! You can choose up to, and including, five more locations for the detectives to visit. You're also free to send the Irregulars to one location. It's too early to call for an end to the case. We have visited five out of seven key locations. Voting will end Wednesday 16th of September at 2215 GMT. Edit: Corrected a tag and a misaligned word. Rocket Baby Dolls fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Sep 14, 2020 |
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So, presumably, Attard was the one working with Revell to embezzle the funds, using Ms. Lindsay's information. Both were killed by a Mauser T11. I'm leaning towards the individual in question being Twiggs, given the fact that he was found with their wallets/Attard's watch. If he was either trying to obtain the bank notes or trying to silence those involved in the embezzlement, it makes sense that they'd both wind up dead. Maude's murder is the one I don't understand - he knew Twiggs, and I think Twiggs killed him using the stiletto knife (because why else emphasize that?), but I don't see a "why". He was killed shortly after Revell was - did he find out too much? Why did he have shells for a Mauser T11? I think Twiggs must've been killed by Jaquard - the mention of a French-made gun suggests the La Faucheaux, and if Jaquard killed Twiggs, that explains how the Mauser T11 and the bank notes wound up in his possession. The money is probably a more logical reason for the murder than my tinfoil-hat theory of being seduced to kill him in revenge for Garcia's missing brother, too. Jaquard's death is the simplest, and I think we've solidly wrapped that up. He was cavorting about with Letitia Garcia, and Marco Escobedo, her boyfriend and a pugilist, got jealous and opted to beat him to death. We know they're involved from the newspaper article about the fight at the ring, and it fits with what Ivory saw: Jaquard must have been with Garcia and been surprised by Escobedo, leading to the fight. Garcia then ran away around the time he was killed - possibly to alert Juan. Juan Escobedo then drove the Landmark Ltd. truck over and came to the door, and the two brothers then walked out with Jaquard's body wrapped in the rug, likely with plans to dispose of it elsewhere. The Tankerville Club lead wasn't as useful as I'd hoped - strange that we'd asked about Jaquard when we were following up on Revell and Moran. Did Moran want Revell to meet with Jaquard the night he died - and if so, why? That being said, Moran/Moriarty are clearly involved in these deaths. I'd guess they were the ones who "set up" the embezzlement scheme, using whatever they had on Revell to make him feel like he had no choice but to cooperate with Attard. If so, that makes Twiggs's death more likely to be about retrieving the money than about his past crimes, since we know Jaquard is directly tied to Moran and very likely helped set this whole scheme up by introducing Lindsay to Attard in the first place. It makes sense that he'd murder Twiggs on Moran/Moriarty's orders to get the money back if he's mixed up with them already. So maybe the Tankerville Club was where Revell was supposed to pass the money on to Jaquard or Moran? We've gotten 5 of the 7 leads so far, now, so that last set of clues was a big one. Trying to figure out what the other two required locations might be - presumably we need something that will clarify how exactly Maude factors in to all of this. I suppose going to the Raven and Rat Inn to see why he knew Twiggs was involved is still an option, especially since Porky may have more info on Maude as well. It may also be worth giving Letitia Garcia a visit just to put to rest my theory about her brother. Beyond that... just purely looking at the key locations mentioned in the summaries, we haven't visited the Elephant and Castle Theater, Marco Escobedo, or the Bank of England. It's a rather inelegant way to try and find a final clue, but as I'm not exactly sure where to go from here, it's better than nothing.
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differentiating posted:The Tankerville Club lead wasn't as useful as I'd hoped - strange that we'd asked about Jaquard when we were following up on Revell and Moran. Did Moran want Revell to meet with Jaquard the night he died - and if so, why? That being said, Moran/Moriarty are clearly involved in these deaths. I'd guess they were the ones who "set up" the embezzlement scheme, using whatever they had on Revell to make him feel like he had no choice but to cooperate with Attard. If so, that makes Twiggs's death more likely to be about retrieving the money than about his past crimes, since we know Jaquard is directly tied to Moran and very likely helped set this whole scheme up by introducing Lindsay to Attard in the first place. It makes sense that he'd murder Twiggs on Moran/Moriarty's orders to get the money back if he's mixed up with them already. So maybe the Tankerville Club was where Revell was supposed to pass the money on to Jaquard or Moran? The CD-Rom clips are set in stone no matter where we have been before or have yet to be. The first link to Tankerville Club that we received was from our visit to the Bagatelle Club which was our very first point of call. This isn't the first time that a key location hasn't produced any new information that we have already known beforehand. For some reason though, we cant complete the case before we have visited this exact location despite knowing the information from other sources. I'm pretty confident that this case is going to be ending within the next two or three updates.
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I admit I've gotten kind of lost in this web but I do have a timeline theory. It does appear that Jaquard was the head of this scheme since he ended up with all the money and some of the evidence by the end. We know it starts with Revell getting the information from Attard to steal the money. After that we have a series of murders. It starts with the Mauser T11. Cyril Maude seems to be the original owner of the Mauser T11 given that he had a case of bullets for it. My timeline is: 1) Maude was hired to kill Revell, possibly by Jaquard and possibly for the £200 we found. Maude did so with his Mauser T11. Maude took the credit notes from Revell's room but also helped himself to anything else valuable he could find. 2) Maude was shortly afterwards killed by Twiggs who was hired to silence Maude. Twiggs took the credit notes, the Mauser T11, and whatever else Maude had taken from Revell. 3) Twiggs meets with Attard to hand over the credit notes. Attard attempts to use his small gun to silence Twiggs but Attard isn't a very good assassin and fucks up, he only hits Twiggs' shoulder. Attard may not have suspected Twiggs had a gun (because he uses that fancy stiletto all the time) and was careless. Twiggs uses the Mauser to kill Attard in the struggle. Twiggs knows this is bad so he heads home, stashes the incriminating evidence but keeps the gun and the credit notes. 4) Jaquard, seeking revenge, finds Twiggs and uses his La Faucheaux pistol to kill Twiggs. He takes the credit notes and the T11. Even assuming all that's right there's still a few loose ends, particularly the instigating motive if Jaquard is the mastermind. Perhaps someone was able to confirm the speculation of Jaquard's paternity and was using it to blackmail him. Moran being upset by the news of Revell's death is also a wrinkle that I can't really fit in. If Moran is a known associate of Moriarty its probably safe to say he's involved somehow. Did Moran blackmail Jaquard to get the money only to have Jaquard go rogue and decide to try to keep it for himself? This leaves Jaquard's death, which appears to be completely unrelated. Let's visit Marco Escobedo and the Elephant & Castle.
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Rocket Baby Dolls posted:The CD-Rom clips are set in stone no matter where we have been before or have yet to be. The first link to Tankerville Club that we received was from our visit to the Bagatelle Club which was our very first point of call. Oh, I'm aware of that - I'm just not sure what information we would've gotten from this location if we *had* visited it second, unless it was a quicker route to Kathleen Lindsay. After all, we heard about it because Moran had asked Revell to come by, not Jaquard, so it was weird that he didn't really come up in that clue point at all. Interesting that it's a key location (if I'm understanding you correctly) in that light. I figure the key location thing is one of the limitations of the medium - unlike the paper and pencil game, where you can go to the quiz whenever, the quiz is by nature multiple-choice. I guess trying to limit attempts until you found Holmes's chosen key locations (and therefore had the information needed) was a way of trying to amp up the difficulty? Kibayasu posted:I admit I've gotten kind of lost in this web but I do have a timeline theory. It does appear that Jaquard was the head of this scheme since he ended up with all the money and some of the evidence by the end. We know it starts with Revell getting the information from Attard to steal the money. After that we have a series of murders. Ooh, I didn't think about the Mauser being Maude's originally, but that does explain the shells much better. I think this may have all started if Revell's note meant he was planning to reveal the plan to someone, and either Moran or Moriarty himself decided he needed to be silenced? And a botched attempt by Attard to kill Twiggs also makes sense with the bullet wounds we have. I do think Jaquard was probably getting his orders from Moran, though, who answers to Moriarty, so I doubt this was all purely his idea. Maude's death is still the one that makes the least sense to me, since why he'd be killed so soon after seems strange. Why have one assassin silence another if you just plan to kill them after delivery in the first place? Nobody besides Maude and the person who hired him would've known that he had Revell's belongings at that point, so it couldn't be another party wanting him dead either. Other than that, I suspect we have our answers already.
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Everything's pretty convoluted in my head at this point, I may be overthinking it and creating conspiracy strings. The original embezzlement plan seems to be Moran uses Jaquard to approach Attard who approaches Revell who meets with Moran. Moran being upset at Revell not showing up to their meeting at the Bagatelle Club seems to suggest that Moran was the end and there was no plan for killing anybody. If Jaquard did decide to take everything for himself was Moran able to find out what Jaquard may have done in just a few hours? Or maybe Moran had already hired Twiggs to keep an eye on Jaquard as insurance? If that's right and with Twiggs dead did Jaqaurd believe he was in the clear? There's also the telegram Jaquard received just hours before he died, though since he didn't exactly cut and run immediately perhaps that was just his lady friend.
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differentiating posted:Oh, I'm aware of that - I'm just not sure what information we would've gotten from this location if we *had* visited it second, unless it was a quicker route to Kathleen Lindsay. After all, we heard about it because Moran had asked Revell to come by, not Jaquard, so it was weird that he didn't really come up in that clue point at all. Interesting that it's a key location (if I'm understanding you correctly) in that light. I get you now, the continuity has something to be desired for with some of these cases. The Tankerville club, which is one of the key locations, could have potentially been a quicker lead to Kathleen Lindsay as it came up in the first clip after the introduction. I have no idea why we can't access the quiz until the end. The difficulty could be part of it as they've set a benchmark and probably don't want anyone to be able to beat it. Something along the lines of that you can be as good as Holmes but you can't beat him. exCLOUDyGH López posted:My voting is for:
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The voting is over and these are the results: Bank of England - 2 Elephant & Castle - 2 Marco Escobedo - 3 Letitia Garcia - 1 Grant Arms Co. - 1 M. Richards Gunsmith - 1 Raven & Rat Inn - 1 Rigby & Co. - 1 Irregulars Henry Ellis - 1 This will be the order of visitations for the next update: Marco Escobedo Bank of England Elephant & Castle Raven & Rat Inn Rigby & Co. Irregulars: Henry Ellis
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Let's All Play Sherlock Holmes: Consulting Detective - The Thames Murders (Update #5) Notebook (New clues will be spoilered.) 1. Inspector Gregson visited us upon the request of Inspector Lestrade who would like us to solve "The Thames Murders". In the last week, four bodies have been found floating in the river. A fifth body, that of Roland Jaquard, was found under the Charing Cross footbridge early this morning. Jaquard was the stepson of Lord Astley Denham, he had a reputation as a mountebank and a ne'er-do-well. He spent most of his time at the card tables in the Bagatelle Club, he was one of the finest whist players in London. Jaquard was also a known womaniser. Lestrade is currently still working on the other murders in this case. The other four people that were found are: Charles Attard, Cyril Maude, Nathan Revell and Leo Shepherd. 2. We met with Robert Adair at the Bagatelle Club. Nathan Revell and Roland Jaquard were both members of the club. Adair and Revell frequently played as partners against Jaquard and Sebastian Moran, who were two of the best players at the club. At first, Adair and Revell had started to win but their luck soon changed and they couldn't win a round no matter how good their cards were. He doesn't believe that Jaquard & Moran were cheating because they are gentlemen. He has also has admitted to placing small wagers on their games but he doesn't know how much money Revell had been wagering. Adair last saw Revell the night before he was murdered. They were playing cards against Moran & Jaquard until midnight and didn't win a game all night. Revell became upset and had a disagreement with Moran. On the night of Revell's murder, Adair was having a drink with at the club with Moran. Moran waited until eight o'clock for Revell to show up, he became upset by his absence and decided to leave the club. Moran asked Adair to pass a message on to Revell if he did show up asking him to meet Moran at the Tankerville Club. Adair last saw Jaquard last night around 2030, he had been at the club since 1630. He received a postal telegram, after reading it he jumped from his chair and said that he had unexpected business. Adair hasn't seen Moran for several days and believes that he is currently on the continent. 3. Jaquard's maid assures us that his room is as he left it. She hadn't seen him since going home early after leaving dinner out for him and a guest. Holmes' found two pistols in a drawer, a Mauser T11 and a La Faucheaux pistol. The La Faucheaux has recently fired three shots, the Mauser hasn't been fired within the last couple of days. There were also letters of credit totalling thousands of pounds in the drawer. Watson found Jaquard's wallet which contained £140 and a recent playbill from the Elephant & Castle Theatre. Jaquard's maid didn't see who he was entertaining last night but she has informed us that when she arrived this morning, she had discovered that the Persian rug had gone missing. She has also advised us to speak to Bettina Ivory, Jaquard's next-door neighbour. 4. Sir Jasper Meek had gone home by the time that the detectives arrived he has left information with the Irregulars. 5. Lestrade had decided that he doesn't need our help. Unfortunately, his report on the case seems to have gone missing. 6. Lord Astley Denham had a very poor opinion of Roland Jaquard. He didn't like the fact that Jaquard spent his time gambling and sleeping around, so he kicked him out of the house six years ago. Denham seems to be surprised that Jaquard hadn't been killed sooner. 7. The Irregulars visited the Raven & Rat Inn. Porky told them that Leo Shephard is Curtis Twiggs. 8. Two years ago, Charles Attard gave instructions to his sister that in the event of his death she was to collect a box and hold onto it until it was called for. She wasn't told who was going to collect it, but this person would possess a letter from Charles with instructions to show it to her when they came to collect it. The box contains files filled with a variety of financial records from Lindsay & Co, they contained securities and bonds. 9. According to Faye Shepherd, Leo is alive and well and went out to sea four weeks ago. Lestrade seems to think otherwise as he informed her of his death and accompanied her to St. Bartholomew's to identify a body. Leo's wallet was stolen before he left and was found on the dead body. 10. We spoke to Revell's landlady who said that she has left Revell's room exactly as he left it. He worked through the day, spent most of the evening the club at night and occasionally visited her for a game of whist. His room contains a broken window which she only noticed when she was showing a policeman his room the day after his murder. 11. Ivory Bettina informed us that she noticed a woman running out of Jaquard's house last night at 0030 and got into a passing hansom. About an hour later a delivery wagon from Landmark, Ltd pulled up to Jaquard's house, a man went to the door and after a few minutes two men came out carrying a rug. They put it into the wagon and then drove away. 12. Curtis Twiggs gave up his room four days ago. He left a bag with the landlord and told him that he would be back for it but didn't say when he would be back. The landlord let us search his bag, for a price, it contained the following items: A gold watch with the initial CA engraved on the back. Several pieces of jewellery and rings. Two wallets with the identifications of Charles Attard and Nathan Revell. A seven inch stiletto with a pearl handle. 13. The Irregulars gave us the report from Sir Jasper Meek: (I have unspoilered the images to make life easier) 14. Holmes spoke to Mr. Parrison at Lindsy & Co. who told us that Nathan Revell has embezzled over £6000 of negotiable securities and letters of credit. Parrison doesn't know how Revell accomplished this as only Parrison and his partner know their clients portfolios. Revell would have had to request each security by, by number, from the right bank and securities have been found missing from three banks. Mr. Lindsay was Parrisons partner until he died four years ago and now his wife, Kathleen Lindsay, owns his shares. Jeffrey Farber is now Parrisons business partner as Kathleen Lindsay doesn't actively participate in the business. 15. The owner of Landmark Ltd informed us that he only has one wagon and one employ, Juan Escobedo. The owner wasn't aware that Escobedo had taken the wagon to Jaquard's last night and wondered why there was a rug in the back of it this morning. Escobedo was told not to take the wagon without telling the owner. Escobedo has called in sick today. 16. H.R. Murray was not in his office when we went to visit him. 17. Watson searched through Cyril Maude's room and found an old sea chest. The chest contained the following items: £200 in cash. A box of Mauser 11mm shells. A Webley revolver. 18. Nathan Revell's history with Drummond Bank: "On May 6 Nathan Revell opened an account with a hundred pound Bank Draft drawn on the Bank of England. Approximately six thousand pounds in various Letters of Credit were deposited into that account during the month. On May 30, Mr Revell withdrew the Letters of Credit he had on deposit and closed his account." 19. The Irregulars were responsible for Lestrade's missing report: (Unspoilered for ease of life.) 20. We visited a very drunk Juan Escobedo who denies murdering Jaquard. He claims that the murderer is his brother, Marco Escobedo. 21. Jeffrey Farber told us that he has spent a busy day at the Bank Of England and the Drummond Bank. He was trying to discover the extent of the loss that Revell has caused to his firm. Once Revell knew the accounts and the account numbers he was able to transfer the money from them into letters of credit or any other account of his choosing. Farber doesn't know how Revell got this information as only he and Neil Patterson has access to this information. Kathleen Lindsay also has access to this information but all of her business dealings with the firm are handled by Charles Attard. Neil Patterson (Not Parrison) is in the directory: 22. We spoke once more with Andrew Devine at Millbank Prison. He knew Cyril Maude and claims that he was a bad egg who didn't make any friends during his stay. The person who he was closest too was his cellmate, Curtis Twiggs. Curtis Twiggs was released in 1886 and won't be missed. 23. Loren Jarett, the maître d' of the Tankerville Club, remembered Roland Jaquard very well. On the evening of March 30th, Jaquard arrived at 7:30 pm and was joined by Kathleen Lindsay and ordered a bottle of Gruaud Larose '76 to accompany their duck. They left at midnight but not before being joined by Colonel Sebastian Moran, he arrived at 9:10 and had one drink with them before leaving at 9:45. The last time that Jarett saw Jaquard was June 1st, he spent most of the afternoon in the game room and came into the dining room to eat alone at 8:30 and had left at 9:30. 24. Kathleen Lindsay informed us that she knew three of the victims. Charles Attard was her solicitor, Roland Jaquard was her friend and Nathan Revell worked for Lindsay & Company. Jaquard and Attard knew each other and were friends and had introduced Lindsay to Attard. Lindsay assumes that Attard met Revell when he went to the firm to handle her business affairs, but it was never mentioned to her. She doesn't believe that Jaquard new Revell at all. 25. H. R. Murray's report given to the Irregulars: 26. Marco Escobedo was still in bed, looking hungover and beaten, when Watson had arrived. He claims to have not known Roland Jaquard but knew of him, he is also very dismissive of his death. Escobedo claims that Jaquard was a ladies man and was after Letitia Garcia, who he told us that he loved. Escobedo claims that he was at The Ring last night then went to Spaniards Inn afterwards and finally returned home to bed. Escobedo claims that he doesn't knows nor care who killed Jaquard, but was very quick in trying to leave after being questioned about it. 27. Charles Attard and Roland Jaquard also maintained large bank balances within the Bank Of England. Nathan Revell also had an account with them, it was bolstered by the sale of his mother's house after her death. Revell added to the account from time to time until around a month ago, his balance started dropping to almost nothing. 28. Roland Jaquard was at the Elephant & Castle last night to pick up Letitia Garcia. It's claimed that Garcia has lots of admirers and she knows how to have fun with it. Not only was she going out with Jaquard, Garcia was also having fun with Marco Escobedo and Sir Lester Ogilvie, who is described as strange bird. 29. Our old friend Porky Shinwell was able to be very helpful on this occasion. Cyril Maude and Curtis Twiggs were regulars at the Raven & Rat Inn. Twiggs & Maude were partners and part of the Moriarty gang. They were reportedly Sebastian Moran's strong-arm boys, Twiggs was the knifeman and Maude had a deadly aim with a pistol. There has been no word on why were murdered. Word has it that Moran wanted to find Twiggs after Revell's murder, but there's no known reason why. Shinwell last saw the pair on the night of Maude's murder as they were drinking at the Inn. Around 8 o'clock, Moran entered the Inn, spoke to the pair and then left. Maude checked over his pistol, both of them finished their pints and then dashed off. 30. We spoke with Ken Tarolla, the owner of Rigby & Co. He informed us that he doesn't stock the Mauser T11 and told us to try M. Richards Gunsmith 31. We sent the Irregulars to visit Henry Ellis, unfortunately, he's in France at this moment in time. Locations Chambers, Ralph - Nothing on file. Ellis, Henry (London Times) - Baker Street Regular. Garcia, Letitia - Miss Garcia is a Spanish actress who once came to me in her search for her missing brother, Geronimo. Gunsmith - Grant Arms Co. - Grant Arms has been selling and manufacturing firearms since the early 1800s. They began operations with the fashioning of an improved breechblock rifle which they made available to the public with a generous supply of the newly invented smokeless gunpowder. It is currently England's largest small arms and artillery manufacturer. Courtney Allen was president until he was brutally murdered in March of 1888. He left behind his widow, Beatrice. Gunsmith - M. Richards Gunsmith - M. Richards is one of the best suppliers of pistols in London. Hall, Edward (Old Bailey) - Baker Street Regular. Hogg, Quentin (Police Gazette) - Baker Street Regular. London Library - Baker Street Regular. Mettier, Yves - Nothing on file. O'Brian, Disraeli (Office Of Records) - Baker Street Regular. Ogilvie, Sir Lester - Sir Lester Ogilvie inherited great wealth from his parents when they both perished in a carriage accident. He is a great collector of egg specimens and performs exacting experiments on them, although no one in the scientific community quite comprehends what these experiments are meant to prove. He is, by all accounts, an odd bird. Pike, Langdale (Society Club) - Baker Street Regular. Randolph, Vincent - Vincent Randolph has made a considerable fortune running a shipping line between England and the Orient. He is married to the former Linda Thurston-Eliot. Ring, The - The Ring is a famous landmark in London - famous for boxing, wrestling, and Sunday Shakespeare. Ironically, it was originally London's first Sunday School. It was built in 1782 as a chapel for Rowland Hill, who preached here for fifty years. Located on Surrey Row. Rooker, Jeanette - Mrs Rooker is the former Jeanette Jaquard. She married her husband, Charles Rooker in 1879, much to the disapproval of her youngest brother, Roland. Somerset House - Baker Street Regular. Spaniards Inn - Spaniard's is a small elegant restaurant across from St James Square. Several years ago, Watson and I slipped away in the middle of many a dreary day to dine on their paella. Unvisitable locations of note. Emhoe, Ivan - Mr Emhoe has been a clerk at Drummond's Bank for 37 years. Moran, Sebastian - Chief of Staff for Moriarty. Moran attempted to murder me on two occasions following Moriarty's death - once at Reichenbach Falls and once in London. Obviously I got the better of the man. In spite of his arrest for the murder of Ronald Adair, he managed to escape the gallows. Moran was at one time an officer in the Indian Army and a heavy game hunter. Time to vote! We have visited seven out of seven key locations. You can end the case now if you wish or you can choose up to, and including, five more locations for the detectives to visit. You're also free to send the Irregulars to one location. If you want to close the case, we need to answer several questions: Who killed Nathan Revell? Who killed Cyril Maude? Who killed Charles Attard? Who killed Curtis Twiggs? Who killed Roland Jaquard? Voting will end Saturday 19th of September at 2215 GMT.
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Sep 17, 2020 22:16
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Okay, I think we can close the case. My understanding is as follows: Who killed Nathan Revell? Cyril Maude. It sounds like Moran asked Maude & Twiggs to take care of Revell - my guess is that Revell was supposed to hand over the embezzled money to either Moran or Jaquard that night, and when he didn't show, Moran opted to kill him to retrieve the goods. It sounds like Maude still had the Mauser T11 at that point, so he was probably the one who shot him. This is also why he had the shells in his possession, as he was the original owner of the gun. Who killed Cyril Maude? Curtis Twiggs. He was the knifeman, so it makes sense that his preferred weapon was the stiletto knife, and Maude probably didn't expect the betrayal. It's a little unclear as to why, but given that Moran was hunting for him shortly thereafter, I'm guessing he decided to keep the money for himself rather than turning it over? I don't think it was Moran's orders, at any rate, since we have no evidence that Moran wanted Maude dead or ever spoke to Twiggs separately. He could also be a double agent for someone else, but we haven't gotten wind of another, non-Moriarty underworld influence thus far. At the very least, Twiggs took Revell's wallet, the money, and the Mauser after killing Maude. Who killed Charles Attard? Curtis Twiggs. They clearly fought, as Twiggs received multiple gunshots from Attard's pistol. I'm guessing he chose to use the Mauser in this case because bringing a knife to a gunfight isn't a good idea, but as he wasn't as crack a shot as his partner, it makes sense that he was injured in the process. Was Attard trying to retrieve the stolen goods for Moran, or was Twiggs trying to see if Attard, also involved in the scheme, had any more money to steal? Those are the two motives I can think of. I feel like, as Twiggs had Attard's wallet, that he was probably gunning for more cash.This is when Twiggs obtained Attard's wallet and pocket watch. Who killed Curtis Twiggs? Roland Jaquard. As much as I enjoyed my conspiracy theorizing, the most likely explanation is that he killed Twiggs to get the money back for Moran. Again, Twiggs was armed with a pistol but less experienced with shooting it, so Jaquard managed to outshoot him. It was at this point that he collected the Mauser and the money. Who killed Roland Jaquard? Marco Escobedo. His death was completely unrelated to the above - he was flirting with Letitia Garcia, and Marco Escobedo, another man she was seeing, got jealous and confronted him. The two men fought, and Jaquard was ultimately beaten and strangled. Juan Escobedo then drove the truck by to help his brother with the body disposal. The brothers knew nothing about the money or earlier crimes, so hence all of that was left untouched in Jaquard's apartment.
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differentiating posted:Okay, I think we can close the case. My understanding is as follows: Congratulations on solving the case. You've pretty much explained everything perfectly.
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Sep 18, 2020 08:08
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Here are the other questions that we will be asked by the judge: Why did Maude kill Revell? A. Revell wouldn't share the securities with him. B. He was ordered by Sebastian Moran. C. He did it in self-defence. D. Revell had cheated Maude at whist. Why did Twiggs kill Maude? A. Maude was planing to turn Twiggs over to Scotland Yard for the murder of Nathan Revell. B. He was ordered by Sebastian Moran. C. He did it in self-defence. D. To take the embezzled securities for himself. Why did Twiggs kill Attard? A. He did it in self-defence. B. Attard was planning to turn Twiggs over to Scotland Yard for the murder of Cyril Maude. C. Attard was blackmailing Twiggs, who had pulled off a successful robbery of Drummond's Bank. D. He was ordered to by Moran. Why did Jaquard kill Twiggs? A. He discovered that Twiggs was having a relationship with Leticia Garcia. B. To retrieve the embezzled securities for Moran. C. He was planning to turn Twiggs over to Scotland Yard for the murder of Cyril Maude and Charles Attard. D. Retribution for the murder of his friend, Attard. Why did Escobedo kill Jaquard? A. He had discovered Jaquard's plot to rig the boxing match. B. To steal the embezzled securities. C. He was ordered by Moran. D. Jealousy over Jaquard's relationship with Leticia Garcia.
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Sep 18, 2020 08:45
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For the very last time, the voting is closed. This case will be closed in the next update.
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Sep 19, 2020 22:15
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The visit to Porky cleared up a lot of the peculiarities between Maude and Twiggs. You'd think he could have shared that kind of detail with the irregulars! In any case to test myself: Maude killed Revelle on orders from Moran. Twiggs killed Maude to take the money for himself. Twiggs seems to have killed Attard in technically self-defense but that's not entirely clear. Also given their activities nothing was exactly unprovoked. Jaquard could have killed Twiggs for revenge or the securities but given the embezzlement seems the most important part the correct answer is probably over the securities. And of course Marco was jealous.
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Kibayasu posted:The visit to Porky cleared up a lot of the peculiarities between Maude and Twiggs. You'd think he could have shared that kind of detail with the irregulars! These are the correct answers. I have some free time this afternoon to work out the optimal play through. It feels a little surreal that this is almost over.
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Everything is uploading now and I'm currently doing the timestamps for the video containing all of the clips. I apologise as I forgot to include the Central Carriage Stables in the main LP, the short clip does contain some minor information but nothing of importance. We also have a reversal of information with one of the clips. We sent the Irregulars to visit Ellis, but we would have gained further information via a telegram if we had sent the detectives. Ellis confirms that Moran is out of the country and had met with a notorious, and very cliche, character. If we had visited Jeanette Rooker, Charles Attard's sister, we would have gotten an update on the box. The person who collected it was: Sebastian Moran. Also, for some reason, visiting the Stock Exchange crashes this case. I don't think that there is even a video clip attached to it, but it is a thing. I'll be updating at the usual time today.
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Rocket Baby Dolls posted:If we had visited Jeanette Rooker, Charles Attard's sister, we would have gotten an update on the box. The person who collected it was: Sebastian Moran. Told you we should have visited her 
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Let's All Play Sherlock Holmes: Consulting Detective - The Thames Murders (Update #6) Finale This is the final update for this case, this video contains the visit to the judge and Holmes' solution.  Let's Play Sherlock Holmes: Consulting Detective - The Thames Murders  This is the optimal playthrough and we need to visit seven locations in total. Considering the issues that we had in the main playthrough, only one of these needs to be visited by the Irregulars and that is to H.R. Murray. The detectives are required to visit the Bagatelle Club, the Elephant & Castle, Roland Jaquard, Kathleen Lindsay, the Raven & Rat Inn and the Tankerville Club. Solving five murders in seven moves seemed very overwhelming at first but thankfully these locations gave us a lot of useful information. I tried to put the key locations into some sort of logical order but I'm not convinced that I really pulled it off. I probably should have consulted H.R. Murray to help connect the dots earlier and Roland Jaquard probably would have been suited after the visit to the Tankerville Club or Kathleen Lindsay's. Bonus Videos Here are all of the video clips for this case, timestamps are included in the description: The Thames Murders: All Video Clips Rocket Baby Dolls fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Sep 20, 2020 |
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Thank you, everyone! This is my first time putting together an audience participation LP and I had no idea that it was going to take off as it has done. I had no idea what I was doing when I started this, thankfully Kangra helped with the framework by letting me borrow from their previous LP (The current LP is making serious headway through its final case right now: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3920897). This would never have been possible without you all, it's been a slightly intense and pretty surreal experience and I'm still trying to comprehend it all at the moment. Apart from a few occasions, this LP has been a constant force most nights for the past five months and it's all of you who kept this all steaming forward. This experience has been incredible and it's not something that I'm going to forget about any time soon. Thank you to everyone who has helped make this happen. The voting, the speculations, the discussions, the readers, the viewers... everyone who made this what it is. The next game in this mega thread will be Sherlock Holmes: The Mystery Of The Mummy. I'm going to take a few days off before I make a start on this which will probably be at some point over the next weekend. I'm thinking about putting together another audience participation LP in the future, but it won't be for a while yet. Rocket Baby Dolls fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Sep 20, 2020 |
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Thank you for creating and running the LP! The newest update has been something to look forward to for weeks, and figuring out the murders with everyone has been immensely satisfying.
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It's been great to see all these cases in video form, and you've done a fantastic job guiding the cases. They turned out to be not all that different from the print form; the main changes seem to be where they couldn't easily reproduce what the text described. Such was the case for the Thames Murders, too. Jacqard's gun collection was actually a large display, with the name and details of each weapon listed on them. That's how you can get the calibre of the one he used. Both the guns found are lying loose, but the Mauser doesn't have a position in the display, so it's more obviously a recent acquisition. You do have to go to the gun shops to discover Jacqard was not the one who bought the gun. The toy found at Porlock's shop is a triple marionette, with a man in uniform holding the strings of a man in a lawyer's costume (robe & wig) and a rough-looking type. These are clearly Moran, Attard, and Maude, though they are not labeled. Looking forward to seeing all the other variations on Holmes.
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Hey, thank you for creating this! My stupid brain made me get so into this that I got stressed out by all the facts and got anxiety, taking that long break from the LP, but I am glad I caught up before the end again. I suppose that it is praise that I got that into it?  It has been a lot of fun and I can't wait for the next one!
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We may all need to go back to detective school but at least everyone had fun (except all the dead people). A bit of a shame the later two volumes didn't get remastered. Who doesn't want to see public television production values in high definition?
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Thank you for leading us on these investigations. It’s been fun.
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Kibayasu posted:A bit of a shame the later two volumes didn't get remastered. Who doesn't want to see public television production values in high definition? From what I'm aware, the original plan was to remaster all of the volumes as well as other games in their catalogue. They launched a Kickstarter in 2012 which failed to reach its goal but the aim of it was mainly to raise attention to the remaster projects. There's still no sign of the second volume appearing, it's been five years since the first volume was released on Steam so I'm not holding my breath of further releases any time soon. The company released a new game last year so they're still active. The link to the Kickstarter is here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zojoi/sherlock-holmes-consulting-detective-adventure-mys/description The official page is here: https://www.zojoi.com/sherlock/
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Let's Play: Sherlock Holmes: The Mystery Of The Mummy After Lord Montcalfe's death, his daughter Elisabeth turns to the famous detective Sherlock Holmes to solve the mystery that surrounds her father's death. As his trusted assistant Doctor Watson is having a well deserved holiday with his family, Holmes decides to go to the manor on his own. He will have to use all of his considerable skill to resolve all the manor's riddles. Only then will he discover that behind this mysterious case hides a dreadful secret.  There was an audio glitch around the 11:16 mark, I wasn't able to edit out entirely as Holmes' started speaking towards the end of it.
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Sep 27, 2020 18:59
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The letters collected in the first part:   
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Sep 27, 2020 22:01
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Even if you immediately suspect a fake that's a very deadpan way to react to a someone dressed like a mummy bursting through a door.
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 This is the second part of the game and it involves exploring the more leisurely side of the mansion. We start with a brief tour of the library, followed by a visit to the parlour, study and then Montcalfe's lovingly themed bedroom. There will most likely be some continuity problems with the inventory management as the game crashes after each end of the level cut scene. I'm having to play each section first, skip the cut scene to save and then play the level again to record the cut scene. I will post the paperwork that we have collected in this video later on tonight.
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Oct 4, 2020 10:47
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Montcalfe really overdid it with the puzzles and locked rooms
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Mecca-Benghazi posted:Montcalfe really overdid it with the puzzles and locked rooms I wonder if he's the one in the elaborate mummy outfit, the staff put up with his antics until he went too far with the costumes. The moaning that we hear is him just wanting someone to get him out of it. Here are the papers that we collected during the second part of the game:         
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