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KING EGG
Dec 1, 2000

Saturday is "Treat Day"


BurgerQuest posted:

Just do what I do and give him 3 shots of 'rescue remedy brandy whisky before bed. Yes, shots. What about it.

Getting him to bed is fine - he's hopped up on melatonin which has been working a charm.

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Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

THERE IS NO PLANET B


frankly if you aren't giving your kid IV heroin then are you really being militant about their sleep schedule?

Lube Enthusiast
May 26, 2016



Pleasantly surprised the new Red Dwarf movie was on abc iview. Kryten has a new go apeshit mode

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004



got that burning rage inside me that can only come from a dumbass uni group

Airstream Driver
May 6, 2009



Just save your blood pressure and do everything yourself.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008


Caesar Saladin posted:

got that burning rage inside me that can only come from a dumbass uni group

Oh boy

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004



We could either record a presentation or do it live, but somehow they just can't be hosed recording it by the deadline tonight so we're going to do a much shittier job live and have to spend time practicing it sheerly because they are too lazy to record literally two minutes and send it to me tonight. I'd do the whole presentation myself if I could but they have to read their slides on webcam. Its easy and the presentation is easy and short, but its just going to end up much shittier than it could have been. One member of the group has already left and one is completely incommunicado. Cursed group.

Airstream Driver
May 6, 2009



Ahhhh classic uni. Rip

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

THERE IS NO PLANET B


im convinced university education is a sham at this point.

no one I know uses anything they learned in their degree in their job, and no one collaborates on anything like gorup work forces you to.

its gotta be a grift.

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004



it was probably a very profitable grift when the foreign students were paying full fees. I feel like that was the entire business model.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised




Laserface posted:

im convinced university education is a sham at this point.

no one I know uses anything they learned in their degree in their job, and no one collaborates on anything like gorup work forces you to.

its gotta be a grift.

it makes a lot more sense when you realise it was always meant to be babysitting for failsons before they enter their sinecures that they realised they could charge infinite money for

Caesar Saladin posted:

it was probably a very profitable grift when the foreign students were paying full fees. I feel like that was the entire business model.

Also this

Strong Convections
May 8, 2008


The major problem with group work at uni is that there are no consequences for the lazy, and heaping amounts of stress for the people who care.
The people who care either carry the lazy ones (because the markers never actually adjust marks or monitor how much is done by each member), or end up getting dragged down by them.

The reality is that the markers don't want to mark as many projects - and they dress it up as teaching you collaboration like in the workplace. But in the workplace, you're getting paid to put up with lazy coworker bullshit, and there is also the possibility of them getting fired. Also, you can leave and go to another job without so many lazy coworkers if it's really bad.
It's not like the workplace, at all.

I have/do use the stuff learned in my job though, but I think it depends on the job and the course. Unfortunately a lot of jobs that don't actually need degrees are demanding them or you won't even get an interview, and then people never use what they learned.

Schneider Inside Her
Aug 6, 2009

Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman

I use what I learned in uni every day I reckon, in the sense that I am not a dumb oval office who reacts instantly to any kind of information. It had zero impact on my job prospects or jobs, if anything it made me suffer more by awakening me to the true possibilities of human life and creation.

I think university is important, but in reality it should be much harder to get into and much more difficult while you're there. Alongside this, there needs to be greater investment in vocational training colleges alongside the complete abolition of apprenticeships.

Group work totally sucks, it's impossible to mark correctly. Taking credit for others toil is a big part of working, though. It's like the whole strategy of middle management.

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004



these people have made a powerful enemy today

McSpergin
Sep 10, 2013


I use a lot of what I learned at uni but I got anal cancer from working with groups. I swear to god it took 10 years off my life and 2 inches off my hairline

Unis have absolutely coined onto the grift that is foreign education, it's a v profitable market for them.

We were actually lucky at USQ, they basically incorporated a team marking thing so if some oval office didn't pull their weight your team weighting on their performance actually did gently caress them. We had two foreign students who failed a first year course more than once because they did gently caress all beyond plagiarism and we marked them the lowest possible mark. Blessed as hell when we had to pick up the slack of 25% of the group between the rest of us, and smashed them for it and they failed

bee
Dec 17, 2008
Fitness Goal: To bench press at least one teenage Defiant Sally.

I did a postgrad that was entirely online and every single loving course had a group project in it. Oh, and this particular degree was open to international enrolments as well so not only did you have to contend with interstate time differences you also had to plan around group members being in international time zones. Super fun!

anti-magic
Sep 9, 2012

We've come up in the ram-raiding business, Owl.
It's all high class now.
No more baby seats.


McSpergin posted:

Unis have absolutely coined onto the grift that is foreign education, it's a v profitable market for them.

I mean it's not quite a grift but more that the federal government doesn't want to put money into tertiary education so those institutions are forced to seek out other ways to fund themselves. If we went back to when uni was free (i.e. the government pays for your degree) both students and unis would be better off.

I am glad I didn't have to pay for my degree upfront but HECS is an awful compromise because not everyone immediately falls into a high pay job right off the bat, which screws over the unis because that loan is either paid back slowly or not at all.

Strong Convections
May 8, 2008


anti-magic posted:

I am glad I didn't have to pay for my degree upfront but HECS is an awful compromise because not everyone immediately falls into a high pay job right off the bat, which screws over the unis because that loan is either paid back slowly or not at all.
Lol, high paying job. Have you seen the thresholds for compulsory repayments lately? It's like 45K
I don't think the unis carry the loans - they get paid in full by the commonwealth immediately I'm pretty sure, and then the debt is repaid through your wages/tax return.

I also notice they re-introduced the 10% discount for upfront payments this semester under the guise of covid relief. Which, great for me, but it's just another example of the higher expenses of being poor.

Big Willy Style
Feb 11, 2007

How many Astartes do you know that roll like this?


The repayment threshold for HELP debt is now $46,620. The loans sit with the commonwealth and are collected through the ATO. It was $51,957 before 2020.

Also previously only FEE-HELP debt (broadly speaking post grad and vocational) had a limit but now all HELP debt (Inc HECS-HELP which is broadly speaking undergrad) has a limit of $106,319. Only HECS-HELP debt accrued from 2020 onwards counts towards this limit but only rich kids have pathways through certsin courses now without copping upfront fee payments by default, such as doing an undergrad degree then a Juris Doctor + Professional Practice to become a lawyer. (Some unis don't offer Bachelor of Laws and you can often become a Lawyer faster by doing an undergrad + JD)

And there was a fee hike for Commonwealth Supported Arts degrees which brings them in line with Law which is stupid because Law costs way more to deliver.

Source: I worked fees at a uni.

Granite Octopus
Jun 24, 2008



Just chiming in to say gently caress all landlords and property investors and the LNP and all greedy as gently caress property owners complicit in this loving shitshow. I just want somewhere to live where I donít get kicked out every six months because some boomer gently caress needs a few more hundred grand in the ol property portfolio.

Once every poor oval office gets jack of it, this the whole artifice is going to come crashing down but I probably wonít be alive to see it sadly

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004


Sector Effector


getting flashbacks to that one group assignment where one of my teammates got deported mid-project

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008




Lipstick Apathy

Granite Octopus posted:

Just chiming in to say gently caress all landlords and property investors and the LNP and all greedy as gently caress property owners complicit in this loving shitshow. I just want somewhere to live where I donít get kicked out every six months because some boomer gently caress needs a few more hundred grand in the ol property portfolio.

Once every poor oval office gets jack of it, this the whole artifice is going to come crashing down but I probably wonít be alive to see it sadly
Just break into an unused property and set up shop

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



At Uni I just provided proof and a warning to lecturer prior to turning in the 'group project'. I got the HD and the cunts who thought I'd carry them failed.

Granite Octopus
Jun 24, 2008



bowmore posted:

Just break into an unused property and set up shop

Itíd be about as secure as renting these days

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008



someone ghosted one of my group projects back in the day to go on Big Brother

jokeís on them it was a Middle East politics sim and we got good marks for loving around

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004



birdstrike posted:

jokeís on them it was a Middle East politics sim and we got good marks for loving around

did you find out?

anti-magic
Sep 9, 2012

We've come up in the ram-raiding business, Owl.
It's all high class now.
No more baby seats.


Strong Convections posted:

Lol, high paying job. Have you seen the thresholds for compulsory repayments lately? It's like 45K
I don't think the unis carry the loans - they get paid in full by the commonwealth immediately I'm pretty sure, and then the debt is repaid through your wages/tax return.

I also notice they re-introduced the 10% discount for upfront payments this semester under the guise of covid relief. Which, great for me, but it's just another example of the higher expenses of being poor.

gently caress I don't know why I made that assumption, disregard that point in my post. The threshold being lowered is hosed but I think they can only take so much from your tax return based on my past couple of years (I make gently caress all). I am sure they will find a way to bludgeon the poor rather than taxing large corporations in due time.

Isaac
Aug 3, 2006



Fun Shoe

I did a group presentation and my group was all 18 year olds and were scared of speaking but I twisted their arms and made em rehearse and we got an HD

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004



first year just sucks because the lovely kids that are gonna wimp out and quit uni haven't gotten a chance to yet

Strong Convections
May 8, 2008


anti-magic posted:

The threshold being lowered is hosed but I think they can only take so much from your tax return based on my past couple of years (I make gently caress all). I am sure they will find a way to bludgeon the poor rather than taxing large corporations in due time.

Yeah, it's a percentage of your income, increasing as you go up into higher thresholds.
They're lowering the threshold rather than considering that maybe a system that requires paid tertiary education to get a job with below average wages is completely hosed up.

Also, there's also the "only a little percentage" medicare levy for people earning below-average wages which was slapped on and then increased not that long ago. Not the surcharge for people making above average income, I don't think that's ever increased. But they tried to increase the levy again a couple of years ago so that people earning below average wages pay. Oh, and no increase to the tax-free threshold.

With the above-inflation increases for just about every bill out there, it's death by a thousand cuts so that those at the top can call people whingers for "small" increases in every cost or new "small" levy or percentages you need to pay.


Humphreys posted:

At Uni I just provided proof and a warning to lecturer prior to turning in the 'group project'. I got the HD and the cunts who thought I'd carry them failed.
I provided proof, was told that them not doing the work wasn't adequate (as in, I needed to fix the issue), so I dropped the class, but had a friend still in it keeping me updated. Come end of year they had produced nothing, he gave them an extension, they produced nothing, and he literally had them coming in to hand-hold them through the project and then pass them.

Lolie
Jun 4, 2010



bowmore posted:

Just break into an unused property and set up shop

A friend of mine has done this multiple times. The properties have been vacant because there are plans for future development but he's been able to live in them long term. His current residence is a former post office with a large house attached. It's on a large block of land and the intention was for it to be pulled down and greenhouses built on the property but that was years ago and there's been no progress on that plan.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008




Lipstick Apathy

Lolie posted:

A friend of mine has done this multiple times. The properties have been vacant because there are plans for future development but he's been able to live in them long term. His current residence is a former post office with a large house attached. It's on a large block of land and the intention was for it to be pulled down and greenhouses built on the property but that was years ago and there's been no progress on that plan.
Yeah itís not hard at all, especially if you donít mind getting creative

Jestery
Aug 2, 2016

D. HALL


Squatters rights 2021

McSpergin
Sep 10, 2013


I made some Karelian pasties the other day, smashing them a couple a day. Had em in finland, basically it's a rye pastry with a rice pudding in it that's baked. P good, worth a go imo

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

THERE IS NO PLANET B


good afternoon thread.

how yall doing?

Malcolm Turnbeug
Mar 21, 2018


Laserface posted:

good afternoon thread.

how yall doing?

I started firing off resumes today and was interrupted by my shiny new JSA (which I think stands for Just Some Arseholes) which took about 3 hours of my day to sort out and organize poo poo so I could get the dole, and then I wound up getting offered a nice little chunk of hours so hopefully I don't actually have to deal with those cunts in any serious capacity. Just really basic bitch bar work and tbh I need to keep looking because I know I can't keep doing that much longer but it feels good after getting frustrated with the byzantine labyrinthe of jobseeker poo poo to just get offered 20+ from the first place I reached out to. Self esteem is up and I'm not even drinking or stoned out of my gourd. Feels pretty good.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

THERE IS NO PLANET B


I too am brushing up my resume as the It manager here has gone rampant and is now taking away WFH fridays and any cool toys we had because he told my manager to hurry up and delete 50+ distribution lists instead of letting me check each one for activity, specifically customer-facing use, and it has so far cost the company about 500k but its our fault for not checking each of the email addresses fast enough.

its also undone about 2 years worth of goodwill that we earned and were using to say 'hey, we arent doing sprawling distribution lists for you idiots any more, because its impossible to maintain every single list for a user who wants to email 3 people at once because they hunt-and-peck type like loving children and dont understand what a distribution list is for or that theres better means of communication for the type of communication they need to do and refuse to learn'


basically, gently caress email.

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008



Laserface posted:


basically, gently caress email.

Bill Posters
Apr 27, 2007

I'm tripping right now... Don't fuck this up for me.



I got a jury duty notice.

I hope I get selected for a trial and the defendant tells the judge to suck their dick.

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well why not
Feb 9, 2009





Iím back exercising, having a nudge at dating apps and imagining what my future is gonna look like. Probably need to get a place to stay by myself at some point as I doubt my whole ďlive at homeĒ vibe is acceptable through my thirties.

My kid is 3 today which is insane lol. Keeping ok terms w their mum too. Actually pretty good overall on my end.

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