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Xakura
Jan 10, 2019


Neophyte posted:



Getting a real

vibe from that Forbes drawing

They should really just get Don Rosa to draw those

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mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004


Nap Ghost

priznat posted:

But why does China need to build military fortresses I thought they were loved and welcomed by the populace with their gifts of infrastructure and no downsides whatsoever

If securing your base means youíre unwelcome....

oh no.

david_a
Apr 24, 2010



Megamarm

Xakura posted:

They should really just get Don Rosa to draw those

Don Rosa retired due to severe vision problems so probably not

Seems like more of a Richard Scarry joint anyway but heís dead

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010


mlmp08 posted:

If securing your base means youíre unwelcome....

oh no.

Yeah, I wouldnít get too outraged/nervous about these unless they get really outrageous. US embassies/facilities in some of the less stable areas arenít too far off from this image.

Now, if they start putting in fortified artillery emplacements with alternate positions, tank traps, clearing Extended fields of fire, and building these out for mutual support, and I was the local government I would be very worried.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008


priznat posted:

But why does China need to build military fortresses I thought they were loved and welcomed by the populace with their gifts of infrastructure and no downsides whatsoever

Assuming you're american: turn on your monitor.


Murgos posted:

Yeah, I wouldnít get too outraged/nervous about these unless they get really outrageous. US embassies/facilities in some of the less stable areas arenít too far off from this image.

Now, if they start putting in fortified artillery emplacements with alternate positions, tank traps, clearing Extended fields of fire, and building these out for mutual support, and I was the local government I would be very worried.

US embassies are often buildings you'd think were over the top as a bad guy's fortress in a movie. Even in extremely friendly allied countries.

ArmyGroup303
Apr 10, 2004

If this were real life, I would have piloted this helicopter with you still in it.

hobbesmaster posted:

Assuming you're american: turn on your monitor.


US embassies are often buildings you'd think were over the top as a bad guy's fortress in a movie. Even in extremely friendly allied countries.

Kinda. The U.S. Embassy in London is a pretty, modern glass office building next to the River Thames.

The U.S. Embassy in Iraq is a 104-acre facility that could be reasonably described as a fortress.

crazypeltast52
May 5, 2010



The US Embassy in Singapore looks kind of fort-like. Definitely imposing from the road.

Proper Kerni ng
Nov 14, 2011



david_a posted:

Don Rosa retired due to severe vision problems so probably not

Seems like more of a Richard Scarry joint anyway but heís dead
He's not dead, he just retired to the Berenstein Bears universe. The worm in the Tyrolean hat and lederhosen handles his affairs here.

Murgos posted:

If you want any clearer indication that Trump is not on our team he has been pushing to get us out of Open Skies since he took office.

Open Skies is one of the most lopsided in the US favor treaties we have with Russia.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
WHY DOES EVERYONE IN AUTOMOTIVE INSANITY HATE ME? READ ABOUT IT NOW AT HTTPS://ARSCLOWN.COM/GITHEAD/10 REASONS WHY I AM A PRETENTIOUS TWAT

ArmyGroup303 posted:

Kinda. The U.S. Embassy in London is a pretty, modern glass office building next to the River Thames.


With a loving moat, iirc.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

hobbesmaster posted:

Assuming you're american: turn on your monitor.


US embassies are often buildings you'd think were over the top as a bad guy's fortress in a movie. Even in extremely friendly allied countries.

I'm not, and was on several layers of irony even I can't unpack there.

The embassy in Ottawa is like someone parked a battleship next to the Byward Market.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008


drgitlin posted:

With a loving moat, iirc.

Looking on google maps it appears to be more of a water feature but it still appears to have a double wall. around it.

https://goo.gl/maps/8TTkKM3ivhMiFPcb9

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye



hobbesmaster posted:

Assuming you're american: turn on your monitor.


US embassies are often buildings you'd think were over the top as a bad guy's fortress in a movie. Even in extremely friendly allied countries.

The US Embassy in Ottawa definitely has a cage motif going on

Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!


Sugartime Jones

Crosspost from Aeronautical insanity

e.pilot posted:

Nothing Iíve ever seen in aviation is as cool or loud as a B1 taking off with full burners at night.

e:
https://youtu.be/Kci3xCPkRMg

Memento
Aug 25, 2009




Clapping Larry

Syrian Lannister posted:

Crosspost from Aeronautical insanity

The planes parked 1-2-4-5-3 in the front were briefly annoying.

But quickly forgotten.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006


MY GIMMICK IS POSTING GIBBERISH



Syrian Lannister posted:

Crosspost from Aeronautical insanity

Didn't know they still made RATO packs.

Mazz
Dec 12, 2012

Orion, this is Sperglord Actual.
Come on home.


Grimey Drawer

Syrian Lannister posted:

Crosspost from Aeronautical insanity

I've said this before but that feeling in your stomach from something like a low and fast B-1 will stick with you for a long time. I'm sure it's less greatwhen it's daily but still, one of my favorite things.

Mazz fucked around with this message at 01:16 on May 22, 2020

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012



Nebakenezzer posted:

Trump has announced he's telling the Russians tomorrow (?) he's withdrawing from the open skies treaty

e:

The Russians played Donald like a kazoo.

Stravag
Jun 7, 2009


Arglebargle III posted:

Didn't know they still made RATO packs.

I got to see the c130 from the reserve base near us so a RATO takeoff for an airshow once when i was a kid and it was insane how quickly it gets a herc up

Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!


Sugartime Jones

Stravag posted:

I got to see the c130 from the reserve base near us so a RATO takeoff for an airshow once when i was a kid and it was insane how quickly it gets a herc up

Gonna miss Fat Albert too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWSultjYpSU

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007


Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952





Mazz posted:

Some quick videos on the FFG(X) that cover things like why the 57mm and what Marinette is going to do to build them

Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3_a1ce81LA

If that advanced ammo pans out, then 57mm was definitely the right move given rate of fire and ammo stowage.

If.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?



They ran out of those rockets years ago.

Also, this discussion can't continue without a touch of Credible Sport.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSFjhWw4DNo

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004


Nap Ghost

What up

FoN flights are so a thing.

https://twitter.com/kimaguregolf9/s...1044294656?s=21

Memento
Aug 25, 2009




Clapping Larry

guess we're up to the "gently caress around and find out" part of international diplomacy

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.


Mazz posted:

Yeah, you're either going to VLS via ASROCs or fly out w/ the MH-60R/MQ-8C, whatever is onboard. As mentioned above there are modern deck torpedo launchers around but no idea if the FFG(X) has them. I would assume every FFG will have a couple ASROCs in the loadout but they could possibly just forego that for more SAMs given the 32 tube limit and focus on ASW via helicopter and other assets like P-8s.

Being that they are strike length 41s, I'm guessing you're going to see some tomahawks or SM-6s on there?

Playing with CMANO you could fit:
2 ASROC
12 Tomahawks
12 SM2 BlkIIICs
28 ESSMIIs

If you ditch the Tomahawks and carried 4 SM-6s for CEC and a few more ASROCs
4 ASROC
12 SM2
48 ESSMIIs
4 SM-6s

or just 18 SM2s and 56 ESSMs. That would stay up a long rear end time in most CMANO scenarios so long as your helos could launch for subs. Having 16 NSMs is sooo much better than harpoons.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?


Memento posted:

guess we're up to the "gently caress around and find out" part of international diplomacy

We do this every few weeks.

Edit: We do it with ships every few months.

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

DRINK MORE MOXIE



priznat posted:

I'm not, and was on several layers of irony even I can't unpack there.

The embassy in Ottawa is like someone parked a battleship next to the Byward Market.

Ever been in the Vancouver consulate? Office tower on Pender Street from the outside, with constant escorts from armed security inside in a dark, dingey almost prison kind of environment. And then you talk to the embassy staff who are courteous and very pleasant to deal with. The contrast is disorienting.

Nebakenezzer posted:

The US Embassy in Ottawa definitely has a cage motif going on

At a passing glance, the facade and tower combine to look like an abstract of Darth Vader's helmet and mask.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009




Clapping Larry

Oh, right. Well then why is this one news-worthy, or thread-worthy? I thought this might have been a new development related to the Clear Skies treaty being abandoned.

InAndOutBrennan
Dec 11, 2008


https://twitter.com/Ongaunited/stat...0149687296?s=19

B1s and Gripens in

That's a first btw. We've had 52s before.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006




Grimey Drawer

It's being formally abandoned, before there was a threat to abandon it.

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009

kiss kiss


Pillbug

Hope the Russians send something cool to intercept, would be something new after all those videos of US fighter + Bear

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012




The one weird trick Korean Air Lines wishes they knew.

Force de Fappe
Nov 7, 2008



Grippin' my bone rn

Proper Kerni ng
Nov 14, 2011



priznat posted:

The embassy in Ottawa is like someone parked a battleship next to the Byward Market.
hahahaha holy poo poo


Mazz posted:

I've said this before but that feeling in your stomach from something like a low and fast B-1 will stick with you for a long time. I'm sure it's less greatwhen it's daily but still, one of my favorite things.
I was chillin' in an open-topped deer blind back when ABIA was still Bergstrom AFB, when an F16 rear end-blasted overhead with visible rings in its exhaust, low enough and fast enough that a moment after it GTFO'd the tops of the trees started waving around. poo poo does things to your innards.

I could no-poo poo resolve rivets in the wings, is how low it was.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006




Grimey Drawer

I generally like atriums, but that looks more like a guard tower.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler


Grimey Drawer

Platystemon posted:

The one weird trick Korean Air Lines wishes they knew.

Ice Fist
Jun 20, 2012

^^ Please send feedback to beefstache911@hotmail.com, this is not a joke that 'stache is the real deal. Serious assessments only. ^^


Mazz posted:

I've said this before but that feeling in your stomach from something like a low and fast B-1 will stick with you for a long time. I'm sure it's less greatwhen it's daily but still, one of my favorite things.

I was one of ~70,000 people to get a B1 flyover at a football game a few years ago (It was the only good thing that happened that night). No other flyover I've witnessed has come close to just the pure awe of a B1. It was incredible.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese


RandomPauI posted:

I generally like atriums, but that looks more like a guard tower.

It looks like an alien spaceship that crash landed and got turned into a building as a coverup

piL
Sep 20, 2007
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Taco Defender

MikeCrotch posted:

It looks like an alien spaceship that crash landed and got turned into a building as a coverup

From another angle, shot taken in 2009.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Ice Fist posted:

I was one of ~70,000 people to get a B1 flyover at a football game a few years ago (It was the only good thing that happened that night). No other flyover I've witnessed has come close to just the pure awe of a B1. It was incredible.

b2 flyover is wild and spooky

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Memento
Aug 25, 2009




Clapping Larry

piL posted:

From another angle, shot taken in 2009.


ha ha ha holy poo poo I just watched this, due to a discussion about the music in that show in another thread.

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