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I’ve seen that model in person, and somehow I never noticed the FIELD OF VLS TUBES between the runways. BBVG? BBGV?
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MrYenko posted:I’ve seen that model in person, and somehow I never noticed the FIELD OF VLS TUBES between the runways. BBCVG.
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Jun 1, 2020 22:00
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Should’ve gone BBCVGN.
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drat it, now I really want to play Warship Gunner 2 again.
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Jun 1, 2020 22:03
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Just drop the fighters out of a hatch on the bottom of the ship, easy peasy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBmGC_rzqBw'
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FuturePastNow posted:Can always build flight-deck destroyers like Japan has. Sort of the ultimate escort ship. The helicopter destroyers are a lot smaller than an America, they're like 55% of the displacement.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:BBCVG. I assume the G stands for "Gavin".
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mlmp08 posted:Should’ve gone BBCVGN. Pity it wasn't the Iowa, then we could have had a hull classification longer than the ship's actual name.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:BBCVG. She’s not a cruiser, so no C.
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Fearless posted:Pity it wasn't the Iowa, then we could have had a hull classification longer than the ship's actual name. I think the most real answer would be BV? The original nomenclature was to double a single letter hull name hence DD, FF, CC*, BB. *cruiser designations are a mess but whatever
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MrYenko posted:She’s not a cruiser, so no C. It's the CV that's meaningful. And also, it'd probably be BBCVAG, since it'd be an "Attack" carrier. But yeah, completely reengineer the Iowa for nuclear propulsion and you've got a BBCVAGN. 
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BIG HEADLINE posted:It's the CV that's meaningful. And also, it'd probably be BBCVAG, since it'd be an "Attack" carrier. But yeah, completely reengineer the Iowa for nuclear propulsion and you've got a BBCVAGN. If you're keeping the C you should drop the B part. One weird trick Washington Naval Treaty signatories don't want you to know!
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The C in CV means cruiser...
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Q_res posted:The C in CV means cruiser... Nah, CVG is obviously Carries Various Gavins. The Aerogavin is the only appropriate aircraft for that monstrosity. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Jun 2, 2020 |
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Man, what a sad carrier. It's like they took all the good stuff out and left *just* the compromises I'VE AN IDEA It's basically a new type of compromise Imagine a fleet size carrier from WW2. Off it flies: prop-driven STOL aircraft, like the noble CC-117 Buffalo, a navalized twin Otter, maybe a militarized dash-7 if we get the budget. A GUNSHIP DASH-7, for doing the job the misbegotten Littoral combat ships were supposed to do. Instead of all this pain-in-the-rear end helicoptory and the soft bigotry of VTOL fighters, how about you equip your carriers that are good at short takeoff and landings? You got ASW, you got the ability to provide air support like an amphibious assault ship. Contested environments? Well, OK, you got me there. But for the stuff we see carriers often used for*, works really well. Better to be on hand with ten men than absent with 10,000, right? As for CAS, turbine-powered...well, name your dream USN piston engine fighter, we'll turbine that bitch
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Stop copy-pasting mike sparks
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Nebakenezzer posted:...As for CAS, turbine-powered... I got u fam 
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:The helicopter destroyers are a lot smaller than an America, they're like 55% of the displacement. Duh, they're destroyers! And a couple of them are being modified to operate the F-35B.
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Nebakenezzer posted:As for CAS, turbine-powered...well, name your dream USN piston engine fighter, we'll turbine that bitch Please stop, my dream p-61 black widow boner can only get so erect
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https://twitter.com/AircraftSpots/status/1267674928729358336 Hey I know the rule about politics but things are weird right now. I just want to ask what three C-130s and five C-17s would be capable of carrying? They cannot possibly be airlifting three infantry divisions.
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Arglebargle III posted:https://twitter.com/AircraftSpots/status/1267674928729358336 Make that +1 C-130J and +1 C-17 both on final approach at the time of this post, both from Fort Drum.
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Arglebargle III posted:https://twitter.com/AircraftSpots/status/1267674928729358336 Likely JTAV and maybe light armor. Yeah, you could use a C-17 to airlift an Abrams, but given the units going in are 82nd and 10th, it's likely armored cars and maybe some Strikers and new-to-them LAVs for the 82nd with the C-17s. EDIT: The alert units of those divisions have been given a few days notice, and the 82nd in particular has units specifically for rapid deployment (18 hours or less). They aren't moving EVERYONE, but it's going to be a shock to see the troops at first light patrolling D.C. ArmyGroup303 fucked around with this message at 08:39 on Jun 2, 2020 |
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Are those formations unusually white or did they just grab whatever was closest?
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aphid_licker posted:Are those formations unusually white or did they just grab whatever was closest? What do you mean?
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aphid_licker posted:Are those formations unusually white or did they just grab whatever was closest? Probably a coincidence but one of the first rules of using an army on people is to use the least sympathetic army units possible.
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mlmp08 posted:What do you mean? This basically: Electric Wrigglies posted:Probably a coincidence but one of the first rules of using an army on people is to use the least sympathetic army units possible. ie whether any of these are inofficially famous in the army for being the racist hick division, just sorta as an early indicator of how bad this might go
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Arglebargle III posted:https://twitter.com/AircraftSpots/status/1267674928729358336 The c130s would be a max of like 95 people a piece, the c17s could carry another 134 a piece max looks like according to wiki
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aphid_licker posted:This basically: Aaaand I’m going to cut this here. If you want to talk about whether military units are “racist hick divisions” go to CSPAM of maybe GiP or some place I dunno.
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E: missed the cyrano post. If you want, I’ll wipe my post below but I think it’s pretty inoffensive. aphid_licker posted:ie whether any of these are inofficially famous in the army for being the racist hick division, No, not really. They’re famous for being rapidly deployable light infantry. This will make it a very male force. Historically, combat units are slightly more white than combat service support, but that has changed a lot in the last 20-30 years.
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mlmp08 posted:E: missed the cyrano post. If you want, I’ll wipe my post below but I think it’s pretty inoffensive. Thank you!
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Arglebargle III posted:https://twitter.com/AircraftSpots/status/1267674928729358336 The media is continually incapable of making the distinction between the entire 82nd airborne division, and the alert brigade of the 82nd Airborne. The aborted combat jump for Operation Uphold Democracy was something like 60 airplanes just with paratroopers, and probably that many again full of cargo to be airdropped or landed once the airhead was established. Even THAT wasn't a full divisional operation.
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Arglebargle III posted:Hey I know the rule about politics but things are weird right now. I just want to ask what three C-130s and five C-17s would be capable of carrying? They cannot possibly be airlifting three infantry divisions. It is almost certainly something like a battalion minus, like an MP company or two with maybe an infantry company or two attached. Deploying an entire division is a massive undertaking. In related news infantry units are grossly untrained for this sort of thing and deploying them in anything other than a "stand there and try not to look bored" role is a major risk. Also it looks like the order right now is only a PTDO, so I'd guess the planes are just being staged at this point. bewbies fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Jun 2, 2020 |
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I wonder if those bones were overflying the actual airbase if that's indeed a MiG-29 there in the background 
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Koesj posted:I wonder if those bones were overflying the actual airbase if that's indeed a MiG-29 there in the background IIRC, those MiGs are friendly. There was a recent cooperative U.S. and I think Ukrainian exercise.
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I suspect it was a short-legged MiG joke.
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ArmyGroup303 posted:IIRC, those MiGs are friendly. There was a recent cooperative U.S. and I think Ukrainian exercise. Is that an SU-27 or SU-37 at the front of the shot? They've utterly massive planes, either of them, the B1 is goddamn insanely massive.
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Schadenboner posted:
Yeeeeeeeeeeessssss.
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Sea Harrier vs F-15: fight! https://hushkit.net/2020/05/29/how-the-sea-harrier-clipped-the-f-15-eagles-wings-interview-with-commander-sharkey-ward-part-2/ Come for the inevitable nerd rage, stay for the slightly racist anecdote about the Italian Air Force.
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