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Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!

kimbo305 posted:

Is it a flag that the therapist went with the love languages angle?

Other than my personal grudge against the author and his church? Nah it's a fine starting point.

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packetmantis
Feb 26, 2013
I love the Arctic porn post. Follow your heart, lady!

oh jay
Oct 15, 2012

People like dunking on Love Languages because "acts of service" and "physical touch" sounds like saying "I like blowjobs"

Sisal Two-Step
May 29, 2006

mom without jaw
dad without wife


i'm taking all the Ls now, sorry

packetmantis posted:

I love the Arctic porn post. Follow your heart, lady!

I went out for a walk and couldn't stop thinking about that dude and his poor GF. I'm almost 99% sure the tv show she likes is The Terror. I haven't seen it, but I'm p sure those dudes weren't so much exploring the arctic as they were trapped there and being hunted by a supernatural creature. The arctic serves as a setting for the story, which is about the characters.

Also guaranteed the GF is writing slashfic which is why she didn't want to show him. I don't blame her, given his reaction to her trying to share her homoerotic period horror fiction TV show is 'duhhh she likes arctic explorers now'.

Ofc this is all dependant on The Terror being the show in question. Maybe there's a reality TV show about arctic explorers. Maybe she likes that episode of Top Gear where they drove to the north pole.

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

AITA because I want the photos from a professional nude photo shoot my grandmother did before she died?

quote:

My grandma was not like other grandma's. She was a relentlessly unique individual. She was beautiful, confident, and creative.

She died of cancer about 10 years ago and all of her belongings were put into a storage unit owned by my aunt aka her oldest daughter and my mom's older sister. Unfortunately, my aunt passed away in February and the storage unit in Maryland and has be cleared out because my family no longer wants to pay for it. As a condition of my grandmother's and my aunt's wills pretty much everything now goes to my mother, my grandma's only remaining child, and me and my brother and sister who are her only living grandchildren.

In this storage unit, one of my grandmother's sisters (Aunt B) found nude photographs of my grandmother. She had them done when I was really little. I saw the photos once during a Thanksgiving visit and didn't think too much of them because I was a child at the time. But I remember them vividly and they've always kind of stuck with me since I saw them.

Apparently Aunt B wants to take the photos and essentially store them away because they're lewd or inappropriate or something. I have asked, respectfully, if I can have the photos since they're just going to be put away and more than likely collect dust in a garage for the rest of time.

These are beautiful, black and white, professionally shot photographs of a powerful and imposing older black woman who had the confidence to pose nude and display them in her home. She's also my grandmother and something about that level of confidence being a part of my lineage really speaks to me.

However my Aunt B and my brother are basically telling me it's weird that I want the photos and aren't really trying to get them to me in Atlanta. My brother lives near Maryland and has been going back and forth to the unit getting different things that my mom wants that he can bring with him when he visits for Memorial Day.

My mom says she refuses to "pull rank" and demand the photos because she doesn't want to start drama with Aunt B. Also I'm being told to let it go and forget about it and to stop being weird because I want naked photos of my grandma.

Clearly it's not weird... I love photography. I love artsy poo poo and have a small collection of prints and drawings from artists I like and some of them are nude. I can also see a lot of similarities between my grandma and I just by looking at how she lived her life so freely and open-minded.

I'm quite gay so any sort of weird sexual thing is off the table completely. It's more about the artistic impact of the photos.

Am I being an rear end in a top hat by basically refusing to let up on getting the photos? I just don't want them to sit and be hidden away forever because my family thinks they're inappropriate.

TLDR; my grandma had a nude photoshoot done years before she died. The photos are in storage and my family refuses to let me have them, despite me asking multiple times, even though they now technically belong to my mother.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Ches Neckbeard posted:

Other than my personal grudge against the author and his church? Nah it's a fine starting point.
Yeah, I guess, through the reductive lens of this thread and the OPs who self-class into their love languages, I just have doubts that the therapist can move off the starting point.

Sisal Two-Step posted:

Maybe she likes that episode of Top Gear where they drove to the north pole.

Is it May/Hammond or May/Clarkson? Couldn't be... Hammie/Clarkson could it?

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Sisal Two-Step posted:

I went out for a walk and couldn't stop thinking about that dude and his poor GF. I'm almost 99% sure the tv show she likes is The Terror. I haven't seen it, but I'm p sure those dudes weren't so much exploring the arctic as they were trapped there and being hunted by a supernatural creature. The arctic serves as a setting for the story, which is about the characters.

Also guaranteed the GF is writing slashfic which is why she didn't want to show him. I don't blame her, given his reaction to her trying to share her homoerotic period horror fiction TV show is 'duhhh she likes arctic explorers now'.

Ofc this is all dependant on The Terror being the show in question. Maybe there's a reality TV show about arctic explorers. Maybe she likes that episode of Top Gear where they drove to the north pole.

I'm taking the comedy option and have convinced myself it's The Thing.

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Smirking_Serpent posted:

AITA because I want the photos from a professional nude photo shoot my grandmother did before she died?

This grandma is cool and it's a shame her family is a bunch of squares

limp_cheese
Sep 10, 2007


Nothing to see here. Move along.

FoolyCharged posted:

I'm taking the comedy option and have convinced myself it's The Thing.

A Cronenberg fetish is a new one but whatever makes her happy. Someone should link her the Colorring Book Porn thread.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

betaraywil posted:

I think my girlfriend has been trying to get my fired from all my jobs. I'm shaken. Please help me.
:murder:

Electric Wrigglies
Feb 6, 2015

L’histoire du du ru ru de

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

FoolyCharged posted:

I'm taking the comedy option and have convinced myself it's The Thing.

The Thing is Antarctic :goonsay:

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Sisal Two-Step posted:

I went out for a walk and couldn't stop thinking about that dude and his poor GF. I'm almost 99% sure the tv show she likes is The Terror. I haven't seen it, but I'm p sure those dudes weren't so much exploring the arctic as they were trapped there and being hunted by a supernatural creature. The arctic serves as a setting for the story, which is about the characters.

Also guaranteed the GF is writing slashfic which is why she didn't want to show him. I don't blame her, given his reaction to her trying to share her homoerotic period horror fiction TV show is 'duhhh she likes arctic explorers now'.

Ofc this is all dependant on The Terror being the show in question. Maybe there's a reality TV show about arctic explorers. Maybe she likes that episode of Top Gear where they drove to the north pole.

I really want it to be Gold Rush or something

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

oh jay posted:

People like dunking on Love Languages because "acts of service" and "physical touch" sounds like saying "I like blowjobs"

that too.

really, the idea that you can only appreciate someone's acts and gestures if its done in the 1 of 5 defined ways to communicate love is about as new-age dumb as it can get. If anything it seems like cover to give people excuses to poo poo on their partner for not just changing their personality and mannerisms to suit them. It's never really talked about in a sense of compromise, but just "my love language is X, there's is Y, how do I get them to do X instead?"

I don't really get it at all. So if a "physical gifts" person marries a "words of love" person, do they just never comprehend how the other person feels about them? Like saying that kind words and praises are meaningless if you don't then surprise them with presents because physical tokens are the only affection they accept?

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Naw man, if someone is treating it like "this is my love language so give me these things" is someone who is already so selfish and unwilling to do anything for their partner and probably shouldn't be in one. Any framework can be abused by some turd in a relationship willing and determined to be turdy. The idea of sorting out one another's love languages should be learning about each other and how to better communicate and express feelings toward one another. It's shouldn't just be "oh now I got a list of stuff to do to tell em I love em," you should, like, be wanting to make them feel loved and see this love-language framework as a tool to understand your partner and express better. It's helpful for someone who doesn't get why their partner feels unloved, but they genuinely do love their partner and AREN'T one of these just core-rotten dweebs who just wants to make withdrawals from their partner. It's also meant to be a two-way street, not just "get me present bc that's my language or else I don't believe your love" -- it should also be a moment of "ohhhh they do love me, they just previously expressed it in a way I wasn't registering or seeing the intention behind the same way."

That therapist sounds like they gave it as a "throw your hands up, gotta give em kind of homework" situation. Clearly these people do not belong together and homeboy ain't looking to change or do anything less than what he wants at all times. Fine, so be it, but I don't think relationship counsellors get to just say that after first session, just "hey, for real, divorce right now, I have the papers"

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

pentyne posted:

that too.

really, the idea that you can only appreciate someone's acts and gestures if its done in the 1 of 5 defined ways to communicate love is about as new-age dumb as it can get. If anything it seems like cover to give people excuses to poo poo on their partner for not just changing their personality and mannerisms to suit them. It's never really talked about in a sense of compromise, but just "my love language is X, there's is Y, how do I get them to do X instead?"

I don't really get it at all. So if a "physical gifts" person marries a "words of love" person, do they just never comprehend how the other person feels about them? Like saying that kind words and praises are meaningless if you don't then surprise them with presents because physical tokens are the only affection they accept?

The idea was more a way to help people recognize that when your partner spends hours making you a really nice meal they're trying to express themselves and do something nice, even if they don't call you sweetie-schnookums the way you're used to your mom doing. That internet dumdums have collectively interpreted it as being a list of demands or a Harry Potter house or whatever has more to do with their own level of self-absorption than the merits of the original concept

Pookah
Aug 21, 2008

🪶Caw🪶





I'm a gigantic weirdo, but I've always understood that if a person you love values *something,* them you should do the best to express your affection via something they like. So if birthday cards matter to them, give em a nice card. Same for flowers, or hugs or what thefuckingever.
I do not get people who say "cards are a fake way of expressing affection so I ignore the standard holidays even though doing so makes my SO sad"
They matter to the person you claim to LOVE! so do a little thing to make them happy, even if it wouldn't mean anything to you!

MAKE NO BABBYS
Jan 28, 2010

pentyne posted:

that too.

really, the idea that you can only appreciate someone's acts and gestures if its done in the 1 of 5 defined ways to communicate love is about as new-age dumb as it can get. If anything it seems like cover to give people excuses to poo poo on their partner for not just changing their personality and mannerisms to suit them. It's never really talked about in a sense of compromise, but just "my love language is X, there's is Y, how do I get them to do X instead?"

I don't really get it at all. So if a "physical gifts" person marries a "words of love" person, do they just never comprehend how the other person feels about them? Like saying that kind words and praises are meaningless if you don't then surprise them with presents because physical tokens are the only affection they accept?

The idea is more that if there is discord in the couple that each of you individually interrogate how you best like to receive and give love, then come together and compare and contrast, then communicate to one another ways to better meet in the middle. If I’m very physically affectionate and am dating someone that is more stoic but does not object to physical affection, they can be cognizant of that and provide more or perhaps just more when I am feeling otherwise down or vulnerable. In the same turn, if my partner was really into acts of service or verbal affirmations, I’d be cognizant of that and express more love verbally or write a note and put it in their lunchbox or something, or if they were having a rough day I’d draw them a bath and and a glass of wine and tell them to go hog wild while I make dinner and don’t worry about the dishes babe, I got them tonight.

The dude that pimps it is an evangelical piece of poo poo but the concept makes sense - it’s just more nuanced than the goon perception of it and is also meant to be one of many tools you and your partner put into your communications toolbox, not the entirety of the tool chest.

E:: the two posters above me are also correct and touched on aspects I didn’t. Good work goons.

Everett False
Sep 28, 2006

Mopsy, I'm starting to question your medical credentials.

Imagine having just, zero comprehension of the idea that you can be drawn to the relationship between two fictional characters without actively wanting one or both of those characters to rail you personally. Offering to pretend you're one of those guys and being confused by the lack of interest. Reading a sex scene focused on realism and characterization and being disgusted that it doesn't get you hard, because it's not written as a wish-fulfillment fantasy. I love it.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
It's also something I've been asked a few times early on in relationships, idk seems natural when you go through a falling-in-love phase to get all excited to learn about your partner and do some cute poo poo to make them feel good or loved or whatever. Seems like times when I'm trying to rationalize not doing stuff with or for my partner because "holidays are a scam" or w/e is either b/c depressed and shouldn't be with anybody at that time or no longer really love or care about that person the same way and should not be with them anymore.

People itt clearly don't watch enough Prairie, there's an episode where Mr. Edwards is excited to get his new son a rifle so they can go on a trip together, he splurges to buy the kid this rifle nicer than anything he's ever owned himself. Now Mr. Edwards isn't the fastest at picking up subtle social cues but he's got an empathetic heart and while he's a lil' butthurt at first that kiddo is plainly Not Excited about the gun as a present -- he is butthurt because he had seen this gift as an expression of love and a vector through which they could bond father-to-son. Mr Edwards is a little slow to understand and is worried john jr just doesn't like him and still insists he go. When John Jr writes him a letter, expressing his poet's soul and clearly outlining why exactly he doesn't want to hunt or kill any animals, it is only because of shame of his unknown-to-johnjr illiteracy. Even though Johnjr wasn't able to fire a shot to scare off the bear attacking Mr Edwards, Mr Edwards still didn't hold it against the kid and was still interested in building a relationship, bonding, understanding one another despite their differences. Johnjr ends up reading the letter to Mr Edwards and in the end they both walk away with a better understanding of one another. Johnjr didn't have to kill anything and Mr Edwards didn't have to get all into Lord Byron or being able to read but they can still appreciate one another a lil better.

Pookah
Aug 21, 2008

🪶Caw🪶





Khanstant posted:

It's also something I've been asked a few times early on in relationships, idk seems natural when you go through a falling-in-love phase to get all excited to learn about your partner and do some cute poo poo to make them feel good or loved or whatever. Seems like times when I'm trying to rationalize not doing stuff with or for my partner because "holidays are a scam" or w/e is either b/c depressed and shouldn't be with anybody at that time or no longer really love or care about that person the same way and should not be with them anymore.

People itt clearly don't watch enough Prairie, there's an episode where Mr. Edwards is excited to get his new son a rifle so they can go on a trip together, he splurges to buy the kid this rifle nicer than anything he's ever owned himself. Now Mr. Edwards isn't the fastest at picking up subtle social cues but he's got an empathetic heart and while he's a lil' butthurt at first that kiddo is plainly Not Excited about the gun as a present -- he is butthurt because he had seen this gift as an expression of love and a vector through which they could bond father-to-son. Mr Edwards is a little slow to understand and is worried john jr just doesn't like him and still insists he go. When John Jr writes him a letter, expressing his poet's soul and clearly outlining why exactly he doesn't want to hunt or kill any animals, it is only because of shame of his unknown-to-johnjr illiteracy. Even though Johnjr wasn't able to fire a shot to scare off the bear attacking Mr Edwards, Mr Edwards still didn't hold it against the kid and was still interested in building a relationship, bonding, understanding one another despite their differences. Johnjr ends up reading the letter to Mr Edwards and in the end they both walk away with a better understanding of one another. Johnjr didn't have to kill anything and Mr Edwards didn't have to get all into Lord Byron or being able to read but they can still appreciate one another a lil better.

But this is an illustration of exactly the problem being described: a person decided that their personal choices are correct and the person being given a gift being required to agree with them.

Instead of the real world thing of observing what someone actually likes, and giving them something that recognizes their choices.

I like olives. No-one not me is required to like olives. I cannot reasonably give other people olives as gifts when I know or suspect they do not like olives. I cannot get hurt when people refuse to eat my gift olives because the loving hate olives.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
I think you're reading things into it beyond the very remedial level of "your partner is actually saying 'I love you' when they do X."

That's it. That's the big lesson of love languages. Here's a possible reason you or your partner might feel underappreciated, even though your partner or you put a lot of effort into expressing love.

If you're not totally self-absorbed, that is an avenue of communication for you and your partner to better understand one another.

If your conclusion is "I tell people I love them by giving them olives so if you refuse to eat my olives that means you hate me" or "I only understand blowjobs so you must blow me daily or you don't really care about me" then communication is not the problem in the relationship.

If you're at the level where you can interact with people and understand how to communicate your feelings based on their personality and interests, this is not useful for you to learn. You may as well scoff at elementary schoolchildren struggling with arithmetic when you yourself understand calculus.

Zulily Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 21:46 on May 29, 2021

Sisal Two-Step
May 29, 2006

mom without jaw
dad without wife


i'm taking all the Ls now, sorry

Everett False posted:

Imagine having just, zero comprehension of the idea that you can be drawn to the relationship between two fictional characters without actively wanting one or both of those characters to rail you personally. Offering to pretend you're one of those guys and being confused by the lack of interest. Reading a sex scene focused on realism and characterization and being disgusted that it doesn't get you hard, because it's not written as a wish-fulfillment fantasy. I love it.

When he was confused she liked one of the characters who wasn't even played by a 'hot' actor. Folks,

Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013
AITA for refusing to attend a wedding when my husband is not welcome there?

quote:

My (30f) friend (31f) is getting married in August. She invited me and my husband to the wedding already in October when she got engaged. I was asked to be her maid of honor.
She didn't have the date imidiately as she wasn't sure how it will be with COVID and now she has the date and she told me she thinks it would be better if my husband didn't come.
I asked her why and she didn't want to tell me at first but then she said it is because he is shorten then me and it would look weird on pictures. He has around 165 cm (5 feet 4.961 inches) while I have 166cm (5 feet 5.354 inches). I think the difference is not that big and I offered I woudn't wear heels but she said I must wear them cause I am the maid od honor and bridesmaid will wear heels as well.

I said that if my husband is not invited because of his hight I am not coming to her wedding. She said that the day is about her and not about me and my husband and I should respect her wishes about her day. She said that she counts with me as with the maid of honor and I can't do this to her. I told her she is being shallow and that it is either me and my husband or none of us.

I talk about it with my husband and he think I am not the rear end in a top hat and actually would think it would be bad of me to agree with my friend, however he doesn't like her that much (she doesn't know that so it couldn't play a role in it). So I am not sure if his opinion is really objective.
I asked my friend and she said I am the rear end in a top hat cause it is just one day and it is about the bride so I shouldn't make a drama out of it. So perhaps I am the rear end in a top hat because I am focusing on me being there with my husband and not at what the bride wants?

Edit: Thank you for your voting. I got so many I can't respond to all. I now see that I was not in the wrong to tell her that it is either both of us or none of us.

Edit 2: UPDATE After all the support I got there I am making a move. I wrote her a text saying that I understand that wedding can be stressful and she wants it perfect but that it really hurt me what she wanted from me. I wrote that I am standing to what I said and unless my husband is invited, I am not coming. I wrote I want to be there for her and help her as the maid of honor but I can't do that if she will have superficial demands.

Edit 3(update): So far no reply, I am giving her time till tomorrow and then I will write her that we are not coming so I can close it.
And thank you all for the rewards.

FINAL UPDATE: So she finally wrote me, she very rudely told me that if this is my attitude I can /the F word/ off. I was polite in my message and she can't do even that. So we are not going and I don't really want to talk to her after this all. I tried my best to be solve it and to give her a chance. It's sad but I guess she really was a toxic friend as many of you said in the comments.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Sisal Two-Step posted:

When he was confused she liked one of the characters who wasn't even played by a 'hot' actor. Folks,

Does this jibe with Terror?

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe

betaraywil posted:

I guess Memorial Day is what makes them turn out

I think my girlfriend has been trying to get my fired from all my jobs. I'm shaken. Please help me.

I just wish I could hear what her insane justification was.

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

AITA for tricking my girlfriend into eating authentic Turkish food?

quote:

My girlfriend and I are university students living in the US. She is from Turkey, and appropriately, she shares her home culture with me quite a bit. I had had no real concept of what Turkey was like before I met her, but I have been eager to learn.

We are currently cohabitating, and as of late we have been ordering in/getting take out quite often. She wanted to introduce me to authentic Turkish food one time, and so we ordered from a nearby Turkish restaurant. When the food came, she changed from the typical friendly/nice person she usually is into an angry professional food critic. She was (figuratively) Gordon Ramsay, and the cooks at the restaurant had failed to properly sear the (figurative) scallops. She said it was absolutely dreadful and no Turkish chef would serve something like that.

For the record, I found it quite tasty, but after some investigation we found that the restaurant served Turkish food, but it was not made by a "real" Turkish chef. I'm under the belief that with training and expertise anyone can learn how to make anything, but she strongly disagrees and asserts that if you want to make authentic Turkish food, you must have had grown up in Turkey to develop your palate.

The problem now is that no matter which Turkish restaurant we order from, it is never enough. It's too salty. It's too sweet. The spices aren't those any Turkish chef would use. I have found the vast majority of the dishes we've ordered delicious, and she ate them up every time, but to be frank it's getting to the level where I think she's just gatekeeping Turkish food.

I was tired of it. I looked into the most authentic Turkish restaurant in driving distance that I could find. I found one a couple of hours away in the city. The chef was from Turkey, and the reviews were dynamite. Many of them were from Turkish people who lived there or previous expats in Turkey. The food cost a pretty penny as well. I drove all the way there for takeout, and drove all the way back.

When I got home, I said I got Turkish food, and she heated it up for us as it had gotten a bit cold. After heating it up and digging in, she immediately said that it was an "abomination" (I legitimately think she uses a Turkish-English dictionary to prepare phrases for creative ways to badmouth the food we get). At this point I had had it, and told her that I got it from the most authentic Turkish place in the state. I showed her the restaurant's page, its reviews, and its reviews from Turkish people.

She immediately got defensive and said I tricked her, that Turkish food needs to be hot off the grill to be good, and that I don't know anything about it. I tried to reason with her and say that I wanted to enjoy food together and not live with Joe from Hell's Kitchen, but now she's giving me the cold shoulder. I feel like I'm right, but I may still be an rear end here.

Please provide any input. I don't know if I owe her an apology or if I should stick to my guns.

Edit: Thanks for the posts everyone. I have determined that I was not the rear end in a top hat here, and here's why.

When someone tries to enjoy a meal with you, and all you have to say are negative things, you're kind of being an rear end in a top hat. I can't speak much for your life situations if you consider that normal behavior in any capacity, but there's no real excuse for calling what someone is eating an "abomination" because it doesn't meet your impossible standards.

Had you read my opening post better, the problem she had with the food wasn't the ingredients or anything like that, but that it was not made by an authentic Turkish chef. I served her food that was, and she still rejected it.

Hearing all of your opinions (with plenty of "yikes" and other Twitter zingers to go around) just solidified my opinion on the matter. NTA. Thanks for playing and have a nice night.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

The idea was more a way to help people recognize that when your partner spends hours making you a really nice meal they're trying to express themselves and do something nice, even if they don't call you sweetie-schnookums the way you're used to your mom doing. That internet dumdums have collectively interpreted it as being a list of demands or a Harry Potter house or whatever has more to do with their own level of self-absorption than the merits of the original concept
Yeah I'm the first in line to dunk on Meyers-Briggs' horseshit but the "Love Languages" thing is perfectly fine under scrutiny unless you're willfully misinterpreting it.

Smirking_Serpent posted:

AITA for tricking my girlfriend into eating authentic Turkish food?
"My girlfriend vents her homesickness by being hypercritical of attempts to replicate her home cuisine. Must really be about the food and I should hold her down and prove that she's the one in the wrong. That will definitely make her feel welcome and more likely to stay here and with me."

limp_cheese
Sep 10, 2007


Nothing to see here. Move along.

Smirking_Serpent posted:

AITA for tricking my girlfriend into eating authentic Turkish food?

No mention of actually eating the food at the restaurant. Maybe that's the problem? If he takes her to that the authentic restaurant and she still complains even when the food is hot and fresh then there is literally no way of pleasing her short of taking a vacation to Turkey.

oh jay
Oct 15, 2012

I'm reminded of the Chinese people eat Panda Express video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo59LlkTDe4

But in my opinion, inauthentic regional cuisine is one of the coolest thing about about living in modern global society. Your ancestors have been cooking food with the same ingredients that could be sourced within a 10 mile radius. Now you can live a thousand miles away and try to use those same ideas and techniques with completely different ingredients. Or maybe discover that their regional dish is basically the same thing as what nana used to make, but with with different ingredients.

Basically I am once again saying that gumbo is the same thing as curry.

Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!

oh jay posted:

I'm reminded of the Chinese people eat Panda Express video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo59LlkTDe4

But in my opinion, inauthentic regional cuisine is one of the coolest thing about about living in modern global society. Your ancestors have been cooking food with the same ingredients that could be sourced within a 10 mile radius. Now you can live a thousand miles away and try to use those same ideas and techniques with completely different ingredients. Or maybe discover that their regional dish is basically the same thing as what nana used to make, but with with different ingredients.

Basically I am once again saying that gumbo is the same thing as curry.

What I take from that video is The Children are douchebags about "food authenticity" or "ethnic" food being good no matter the culture.

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


oh jay posted:

Basically I am once again saying that gumbo is the same thing as curry.

The original sriracha take was that chili is the same as curry.

oh jay
Oct 15, 2012

Quackles posted:

The original sriracha take was that chili is the same as curry.

oh jay posted:

I have given up on food purity and now pick fights with people by telling them that curry and gumbo are the same thing.

Friend, I know exactly what I said to start that derail. Yes, the AITA post was about chili; I just wasn't brave enough to equate chili directly to curry, even though that is true as well.

Owlspiracy
Nov 4, 2020


Ches Neckbeard posted:

What I take from that video is The Children are douchebags about "food authenticity" or "ethnic" food being good no matter the culture.

they have a similar video with italian garndparents and food from the olive garden - the people actually from italy are like 'hey, not bad! i'd eat this' while the "italians" from new jersey fall over themselves to scream about how DISGUSTING and INAUTHENTIC the food is

Xlorp
Jan 23, 2008


Quackles posted:

The original sriracha take was that chili is the same as curry.

My man, have you tried Cincinnati Curry?

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

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Zulily Zoetrope posted:

I've always mentally subbed sitcom romances when I see the term "romcom poisoning." That is a genre where most relationships arise from one party grossly bowling over the boundary of another, only to win them over with a grand gesture in the end. It didn't even occur to me that it might refer to actual romcoms because in my mind that is the Julia Roberts genre.

:agreed:

I've seen plenty of people explicitly reference Friends when talking about romcom poisoning (and have probably done the same myself at some point)

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

limp_cheese posted:

No mention of actually eating the food at the restaurant. Maybe that's the problem? If he takes her to that the authentic restaurant and she still complains even when the food is hot and fresh then there is literally no way of pleasing her short of taking a vacation to Turkey.

There's a New Mexican place near me (at least there was pre-pandemic) that has all the decor I'd expect. Hanging chile clusters, Catholic icons, et cetera. There could be ground glass in the sopapillas and I wouldn't notice because I'm too caught up in feeling like I'm back home.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Chili may not be technically the exact same thing but you add beans to a curry and you have a chili so it seems like kinda splitting hairs

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Owlspiracy posted:

they have a similar video with italian garndparents and food from the olive garden - the people actually from italy are like 'hey, not bad! i'd eat this' while the "italians" from new jersey fall over themselves to scream about how DISGUSTING and INAUTHENTIC the food is

I mean you have a lot of let’s be real white people that do that here.

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Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Do other countries give away credit for so much of their national cuisines? Hell, there are a bunch of international cuisines that wouldn't be what they are without distinctly Americas ingredients. Americas claim tomatoes,, peppers, potatoes, corn, squash, avocados, like all of the best veggies. The rest of the world wasn't bring nearly as much to the for-some-reason-two continents as they were getting out of it, that's for sure. Struggling to even think of a top-tier vegetable that americas didn't have somewhere before non-americanses started beating the place up. Even then I bet we woulda got it eventually from the ocean or some bird poo poo. Point is Chocolate, Lasagna, Spaghetti, Pizza, Hamburger, basically all the kinds of fried meat covered in sauce and spices, Fajitas, Tacos, Salsa, too many to list, that's americas food

Panda Express is american, founded by folks not-born in americas wanting to make money from the americas' stuff and people inside of americal mall food courts doing americish things like frying things in big vats of fatty oil with breading and sugary sauces - made from some of our continental superstar crops: corn and sugarcane.

I propose the americas unite and overreach to take even more credit for all sorts of things

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