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Welcome welcome, my Punchsport Peeps. My Wrestlehut Horde. My Rowdy Rabble. It’s been quite an exciting year for us, hasn’t it? First we took the time to consider our top 10 current favourite wrestlers. Then we all enjoyed our bi-annual WH- How Does This Work? This contest will be run under Survivor rules. Every day will be a 24 hour voting period during which you vote for the wrestler you deem least deserving of the title of the GOAT. Deadlines will be at 12:00pm GMT time. Vote switching is allowed, to do this make a new post giving the name of your previous vote and the name you would like to switch to. In the event of a tie we transition to sudden death with the first person to add a vote gets the final say. Please write your vote in bold to help me with tallying them up. Day by day we will knock contenders out of the competition so that just one remains, Something Awful’s Greatest of All Time! How Come “X” Isn’t On The List? As previously stated this list has been purposefully selected to be diverse representation of wrestling covering a cross-section of all times and all eras. Therefore a bunch of white dudes who may otherwise be under consideration have been cut to ensure that there is a good selection of lucha, puro, joshi and even garbage wrestling. Beyond that entrants were chosen under the following considerations:
The Contenders WWE Bret Hart Bruno Sammartino Daniel Bryan Eddie Guerrero John Cena Kurt Angle Mick Foley Rey Mysterio Steve Austin The Rock NXT Samoa Joe NXT UK WCW Dusty Rhodes Ric Flair Ricky Steamboat ECW Terry Funk AEW Chris Jericho TNA IMPACT ROH CZW NWA Lou Thesz Mildred Burke AWA Nick Bockwinkel HASA Harley Race NJPW Hiroshi Tanahashi Jushin "Thunder" Liger Kazuchika Okada Keiji Mutoh Kenny Omega Riki Choshu Shinsuke Nakamura Shinya Hashimoto Tetsuya Naito Yuji Nagata AJPW Akira Taue Giant Baba Kenta Kobashi Minoru Suzuki Mitsuharu Misawa Stan Hansen Toshiaki Kawada DG CIMA Shingo Takagi DDT Kota Ibushi NOAH KENTA Toryumon Ultimo Dragon JWA Rikidozan CMLL Carístico Negro Casas AAA EMLL El Santo WWA Perro Aguayo LU RevPro WOS wXw STARDOM AJW Chigusa Nagayo Manami Toyota GAEA Japan Aja Kong Sendai Girls Meiko Satomura SHIMMER (Big thanks to MassRafTer who helped out with recommendations for this list. Sorry I didn’t use all of your suggestions!) How Are We Defining Greatness? Well that’s the thing, isn’t it? Greatness is a subject term. Is it based on your portfolio of matches? Is it legendary mic skills? The money you drew? The titles you held? Your Meltzer ratings? The wrestlers you inspired through your career? The concept of greatness is left to the voter to define. My hope is that this will lead to lots of exciting discussion as we evaluate the merits of various wrestlers!  The contest is now open and round 1 voting has begun. Deadline is 12:00pm GMT on Tuesday 14th January! The Results 101. Seth Rollins 100. Charlotte 99. Triple H 98. Pete Dunne 97. Undertaker 96. Johnny Impact 95. AJ Lee 94. Rob Van Dam 93. Trish Stratus 92. WALTER 91. Adam Cole 90. Sasha Banks 89. Bayley 88. Raven 87. Riho 86. Harashima 85. Finn Bálor 84. Diamond Dallas Page 83. Brock Lesnar 82. Christian Cage 81. Goldberg 80. Christopher Daniels 79. Nigel McGuinness 78. Sami Zayn 77. Mercedes Martinez 76. Booker T 75. Cody 74. Awesome Kong 73. Curt Hennig 72. Kevin Owens 71. Becky Lynch 70. Bob Backlund 69. 68. Edge 67. Sting 66. Pentagón Dark 65. Mil Máscaras 64. Will Ospreay 63. Randy Savage 62. AJ Styles 61. Antonio Inoki 60. Kairi Hojo 59. Fénix 58. Sara Del Rey 57. Masahiro Chono 56. CM Punk 55. Johnny Saint 54. PAC 53. Zack Sabre Jr. 52. Shawn Michaels 51. Io Shirai 51B. Asuka Rarity fucked around with this message at 13:57 on Mar 19, 2020 |
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Great thread idea! Please dump out Charlotte first. I don't even dislike Charlotte, but she's the "worst" on this list! Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 11:27 on Jan 13, 2020 |
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Jan 13, 2020 11:11
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Oh yeah  please also put your votes in bold Thank you!
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Jan 13, 2020 11:13
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On the basis of this list (and not voting for people I don't recognise) I'm going to say Charlotte. She's moderate in the ring, not very good on the mic, it's immediately possible to tell if she's going to win or lose by whether or not she's crying, and the only money she's drawn is based on her dad's name. I don't actively dislike her, but she stands out as someone who isn't world class in any given category.
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Jan 13, 2020 11:21
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Jan 13, 2020 11:24
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I'll join the Charlotte dogpile. She is arguably only the 3rd most entertaining performer in her own family.
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Jan 13, 2020 11:38
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ChrisBTY posted:She is arguably only the 3rd most entertaining performer in her own family. Come on now, David Flair's not that good
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Jan 13, 2020 11:41
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No Kenny no vote 
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Jan 13, 2020 11:48
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:No Kenny no vote Kenny is on the list!
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Jan 13, 2020 11:49
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Rarity posted:Come on now, David Flair's not that good Charlotte is better but I probably got more entertainment out of David smashing a baby grand than I have out of Charlotte's whole career.
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Jan 13, 2020 12:07
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Is this going to end up ranked or are we just knocking them off one-by-one until we have the GOAT? Regardless of that, In light of the new Rollins shirt, I’m changing my vote to Seth Rollins Amp fucked around with this message at 11:33 on Jan 14, 2020 |
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Jan 13, 2020 12:14
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Johnny Impact. I’ve just never been a huge fan, and Charlotte is good if overpushed.
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Jan 13, 2020 12:19
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The order of elimination will end up making a list counting down from 101 to 1, yes. Just to keep things interesting I'm going to make an argument for an alternative by voting for Seth Rollins. Both of his runs as the main guy on Raw have been abject failures, he can't promo to save his life and his persona is so whiny and obnoxious that it essentially forced WWE to turn him heel. He's become the third most likable member of the Shield and no one would have ever thought that a couple of years ago.
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Jan 13, 2020 12:21
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I think Charlotte is a bit better than Johnny Impact. I don't hate him but he doesn't really belong in a GOAT conversation either.
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Jan 13, 2020 12:25
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I might cop flack for this one so early but Rob Van Dam Dude never really grew from where he was this spectacular game-changer in ECW and generally phones it in and that's not getting into the fact that he had a tendency to hurt he was wrestling with thanks to not pulling his kicks.
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Jan 13, 2020 12:28
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Trish Stratus Just looked good because of the era she was active in was absolute dogshit for US TV women's wrestling. Rather than start a new post, here are some of the more egregious absences that would have qualified under the harshly arbitrary rules that I'd have included before Trish Stratus Jumbo Tsuruta is the most obvious one that stands out. Definitely a lot of 80s & 90s Japan & Mexico names missing: Shinya Hashimoto, Hiroshi Hase, Kensuke Sasaki who held the top belt for all 3 of NJPW, AJPW & NOAH, Tatsumi Fujinami who was both Jr & Heavyweight champ for NJPW, , Genichiro Tenryu, Akira Taue, Jun Akiyama, Shinjiro Ohtani. And more modern guys as well like Naomichi Marufuji, Kento Miyahara, YAMATO from Dragongate. There's also Joshi & while there are definitely people better qualified than me on that topic, Bull Nakano, Akira Hokuto, Megumi Kudo, & from the Shimmer scene I'd say Cheerleader & MsChef were both huge parts of the US womens scene back then. Ted DiBiase. Jerry Lawler. Jack Briscoe. My point is I'm not a big fan of Trish. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Jan 13, 2020 |
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Jan 13, 2020 12:36
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A few of those njpw names going in ahead of Hashimoto is a bit weird imo. Still like 99 percent of the list is ludicrous so a.j lee because she is first on the list and had a kind of decent run.
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Jan 13, 2020 12:45
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Trish Stratus Basically only seems special because she was "pretty bad" rather than "utterly terrible" like every other woman in the WWE around that time (excepting Lita). Some of it was the era possibly not letting her show more, but even accounting for that I don't think there's much there. And I would echo that a lot of the list seems like they should be nowhere near a greatest list. But if that's the case they'll likely be weeded out early.
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Jan 13, 2020 12:48
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Another vote for Trish Stratus. She wasn't even the best wrestler in her era, in her division, let alone of all time. Charlotte is over-pushed but she can pull off good matches with the right people. One of those people was not Trish Stratus.
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Jan 13, 2020 13:05
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it is really drat funny that some of the white guys not taken off the list were christian and john morrison
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Jan 13, 2020 13:14
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The Undertaker should get the hell out of here. This is no place for white supremacists.
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Jan 13, 2020 13:46
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Christian Cage should not have made this list and therefore should be the first person taken off it
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Jan 13, 2020 13:53
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Sticky Nate posted:The Undertaker should get the hell out of here. This is no place for white supremacists. Seconded. Bin The Undertaker.
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Jan 13, 2020 13:57
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I like Christian Cage but he ain't even the greatest member of his breakout tag team, never mind of all time.
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Jan 13, 2020 14:13
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Rarity posted:The order of elimination will end up making a list counting down from 101 to 1, yes. I'm seconding this, Seth Rollins. His champ runs have all been awful and his most recent highlight is getting dunked on Twitter by Will Ospreay of all people. He's not likable in ring or out of ring and his career peak is the time Kevin Owens jumped him in the middle of his hardcore dance on the indies.
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Jan 13, 2020 15:19
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Seth Rollins
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Jan 13, 2020 15:25
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until I got to right at the bottom where you have my top choice and other great women you were about to get cancelled but you're fine now! Adam Cole is not someone that should ever been called great and I think he should go away first
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Jan 13, 2020 15:32
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Riho is my vote for least deserving edit: didn't bold, fixed now Eat My Fuc fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Jan 13, 2020 |
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Jan 13, 2020 15:34
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Eat My Fuc posted:Riho is my vote for least deserving Please remember to bold your answers!
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Jan 13, 2020 15:44
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Its rob van drat, and wtf no jun akiyama.
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Jan 13, 2020 15:45
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Also a vote for noted moron Rob Van Dam
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Jan 13, 2020 15:49
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I'm going to second Seth Rollins, but I'm also going to note that I'm bummed Marufuji isn't on here.
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Jan 13, 2020 16:02
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Robert Van drat
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Jan 13, 2020 16:45
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christopher daniels i really hate the SCU entrance shtick & cannot in good conscience vote against the nxt people at this early stage because i have never seen most of them work
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Jan 13, 2020 17:24
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oh but seriously I posted:christopher daniels Daniels in SCU is dude at the end of his career, it's not really fair to judge him on that. He debuted in 1996! I'd really recommend catching his stuff in early ROH and TNA.
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Jan 13, 2020 17:38
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AJ Lee probably has the least impressive resume here, IMO.
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Jan 13, 2020 17:46
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Charlotte. She only got pushed because of her last name.
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Jan 13, 2020 18:05
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Seth Rollins
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Jan 13, 2020 18:14
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Disgusted that Earthquake isn't on this list. Charlotte
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Gavok posted:Disgusted that Earthquake isn't on this list. You missed the bit where I said they must have held at least one top-tier title. Also he sucks
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