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So the nominations are out, and not seeing a lot of love for The Lighthouse or Uncut Gems while an outpouring for Joker and Once Upon a Time. I ran the voting portal at http://crucialweb.net/oscars/ last year and there were a few amusing results, so I've loaded all the data in for this one. Feel free to start voting! Everything is scrubbed from last year, so you'll need to make a new login (it literally just asks for a name and password, no need to verify but don't lose the PW as there's no reset - you'll need it if you want to edit, or see how your scores compare). To join the Something Awful group the password is 'iamprotected', of course. The nominations are... Best Picture Ford vs. Ferrari The Irishman Jojo Rabbit Little Women Joker Marriage Story 1917 Once Upon a Time in Hollywood Parasite Best Director Martin Scorsese, The Irishman Todd Philips, Joker Sam Mendes, 1917 Quentin Tarantino, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood Bong Joon-ho, Parasite Best Actor Antonio Banderas, Pain and Glory Leonardo DiCaprio, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood Adam Driver, Marriage Story Joaquin Phoenix, Joker Jonathan Pryce, The Two Popes Best Actress Cynthia Erivo, Harriet Scarlett Johansson, Marriage Story Saoirse Ronan, Little Women Charlize Theron, Bombshell Renee Zellweger, Judy Supporting Actor Tom Hanks, A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood Anthony Hopkins, The Two Popes Al Pacino, The Irishman Joe Pesci, The Irishman Brad Pitt, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood Supporting Actress Kathy Bates, Richard Jewell Laura Dern, Marriage Story Scarlett Johannsson, Jojo Rabbit Florence Pugh, Little Women Margot Robbie, Bombshell Adapted Screenplay Stephen Zaillian, The Irishman Taika Waititi, Jojo Rabbit Todd Phillips & Scott Silver, Joker Gret Gerwig, Little Women Anthony McCarten, The Two Popes Best Original Screenplay Rian Johnson, Knives Out Noah Baumbach, Marriage Story Sam Mendes, 1917 Quentin Tarantino, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood Bong Joon-Ho, Parasite Best Animated Feature How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World I Lost My Body Klaus Missing Link Toy Story 4 International Feature Film Corpus Christi Honeyland Pain and Glory Parasite Best Documentary American Factory The Cave Honeyland Best Cinematography The Irishman Joker The Lighthouse 1917 Once Upon a Time in Hollywood Best Costume Design The Irishman Jojo Rabbit Joker Little Women Once Upon a Time in Hollywood Film Editing Ford vs. Ferrari The Irishman Jojo Rabbit Joker Parasite Makeup and Hairstyling Bombshell Joker Judy Maleficent 1917 Original Score Joker Little Women Marriage Story 1917 Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Original Song I Can’t Let You Throw Yourself Away, Toy Story 4 I’m Gonna Love You Again Into the Unknown, Frozen 2 Stand Up, Harriet Production Design The Irishman Jojo Rabbit 1917 Once Upon a Time in Hollywood Parasite Sound Editing Ford v Ferrari Joker 1917 Once Upon a Time in Hollywood Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Sound Mixing Ad Astra Ford v Ferrari Joker 1917 Once Upon a Time in Hollywood Visual Effects Avengers: Endgame The Irishman The Lion King 1917 Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Documentary (Short Subject) In the Absence Learning to Skateboard in a War Zone If You’re a Girl Life Overtakes Me St. Louis Superman Walk, Run, Cha-Cha Short Film (Animated) Dcera (Daughter) Hair Love Kitbull Memorable Sister Short Film (Live Action) Brotherhood Nefta Football Club The Neighbors’ Window Saria A Sister EL BROMANCE fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Jan 13, 2020 |
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ThePopHub/status/1216719707971235840
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Jan 13, 2020 14:56
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Ha, that’s amazing and In a year of good pictures by women will undoubtedly be picked up on.
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Jan 13, 2020 14:58
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Was Ford v. Ferrari actually any good? It looked like a standard by the numbers biopic to me. Happy to see The Lighthouse get at least one nomination, although I think Dafoe deserved one too.
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Jan 13, 2020 15:10
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cats was robbed
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Jan 13, 2020 15:12
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I expect Once Upon a Time in Hollywood to win big because it has "Hollywood" in its name. Jojo Rabbit possibly because it's set in WW2. Not seeing a lot of "makes Academy voters feel good about themselves" movies this year.
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Jan 13, 2020 15:12
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Basebf555 posted:Was Ford v. Ferrari actually any good? It looked like a standard by the numbers biopic to me. Yeah it was fine but doesn’t deserve a best picture nom. If you’ve seen Rush you don’t need to see it, and once Ron Howard has made the genre picture for that niche you really don’t need to do another unless you go completely wild with it.
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Jan 13, 2020 15:14
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am I going to have to actually watch Joker? I'm just....I've seen clips, and I feel like it's the universe loving with me. especially seeing all those nominations. Human minds are broken, is my conclusion. at least Parasite did well. I mean, surely they could have saved a spot in Supporting Actor for Song Kang-ho, but whatever.
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Jan 13, 2020 15:14
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Basebf555 posted:Was Ford v. Ferrari actually any good? It looked like a standard by the numbers biopic to me. It was exactly that. The races were shot pretty well, but I don't think that makes it worth seeing. Spatula City posted:am I going to have to actually watch Joker? I'm just....I've seen clips, and I feel like it's the universe loving with me. especially seeing all those nominations. Human minds are broken, is my conclusion. Joaquin Phoenix really does live up to the hype, but my problem with the movie is that I think he's the only actor in the whole movie who really even bothers acting. In a sense, that might be intentional, particularly when it comes to Zazie Beetz's character who isn't actually a real person, since the movie has a continuing theme of Arthur's growing solipsism, but it doesn't make for a great movie, imo. pospysyl fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Jan 13, 2020 |
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Jan 13, 2020 15:16
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I expect Once Upon a Time in Hollywood to win big because it has "Hollywood" in its name. Jojo Rabbit possibly because it's set in WW2. Not seeing a lot of "makes Academy voters feel good about themselves" movies this year. Jojo won’t win anything because 1917 is already a World War film and has more prestige attached to it, and I’d argue OUaTiH actually is a “makes Academy voters feel good about themselves” movie, which is why I think it’s a lock for Best Picture.
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Jan 13, 2020 15:23
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pospysyl posted:It was exactly that. The races were shot pretty well, but I don't think that makes it worth seeing. In the movie Henry Ford II is portrayed as a stodgy crotchety old man who can't handle fast cars and Christian Bale's character is portrayed as a man who, though middle aged, is in the prime of his life and at the peak of his physical and mental abilities. In real life these two were only five years apart in age. This fact means that Ford v Ferrari is a minutely subtle critique of the erosive power of capitalism and greed on the human organism and the self actualizing nature of following one's dreams. It's a brilliant film. Or it's a loving stupid bog standard biopic type movie with all the subtlety sanded down.
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Jan 13, 2020 15:26
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Pirate Jet posted:Jojo won’t win anything because 1917 is already a World War film and has more prestige attached to it, and I’d argue OUaTiH actually is a “makes Academy voters feel good about themselves” movie, which is why I think it’s a lock for Best Picture. Yeah Jojo is a little too flippant to be the kind of World War movie the Academy goes for, and "by makes Academy voters feel good about themselves" I'm thinking of Crash and Green Book. Being about the movie business makes Once Upon a Time an incredibly strong contender.
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Jan 13, 2020 15:28
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Yeah Jojo is a little too flippant to be the kind of World War movie the Academy goes for, and "by makes Academy voters feel good about themselves" I'm thinking of Crash and Green Book. Being about the movie business makes Once Upon a Time an incredibly strong contender. It has the Scorsese/DiCaprio factor attached to it too in that Tarantino is an industry staple who’s never won big.
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Jan 13, 2020 15:29
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So only two PoC were nominated for the major awards (Cynthia Erivio for Best Actress and Bong Joon-Ho for Best Director). Here's a list of who I consider snubbed. Actresses: Awkwafina (The Farewell), J. Lo (Hustlers) Actors: Eddie Murphy (Dolemite is My Name), anyone from Parasite. I know Murphy's blacklisted for being a poor sport, but how is he blacklisted while Polanski and Allen aren't? Directors: Lulu Wang (The Farewell), Taika Watiti (Jojo Rabbit). As for more general snubs, obviously the two actors in The Lighthouse were deserving, and Uncut Gems should have been nominated for Best Picture. Other than that, though, I think there were actually very few snubs in the major categories. Swap out the two popes for Dafoe and Pattinson, Haynes for Wang, and Zellweger for Awkwafina and I'd be very happy. pospysyl fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Jan 13, 2020 |
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Jan 13, 2020 15:30
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Spatula City posted:am I going to have to actually watch Joker? I'm just....I've seen clips, and I feel like it's the universe loving with me. especially seeing all those nominations. Human minds are broken, is my conclusion. Its definitely worth seeing, it's a very nice looking movie with an excellent lead performance. That said, I don't think it's even close to Phoenix's best performance(The Master and You Were Never Really Here are both better) and with all the attention it's garnered I can't help but think it's a bit overrated. And my instinct going into it was definitely correct, it was a very good character piece about a character who really did not need to be The Joker aside from budgetary concerns(obviously it's harder to get money from a studio for this kind of film when it's not connected to comics or some wider "universe").
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Jan 13, 2020 15:30
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Greta Gerwig was mostly snubbed too.
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Jan 13, 2020 15:32
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Pretty surprised at how badly Uncut Gems got snubbed.
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Jan 13, 2020 15:38
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Bombshell really? That Fox News pean gets this much love? Did they just want to guarantee the famous actresses will show up? If so that's a bush league Golden Globes move.
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Jan 13, 2020 15:41
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Uncut Gems was absolutely robbed for acting, directing, soundtrack, and sound design I'm especially annoyed that Star Wars got a best soundtrack nom and Gems didn't. 99% of the music from Skywalker is directly reprised from 30-40 years ago and the new stuff is absolutely phoned in
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Jan 13, 2020 15:43
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I'm just glad they didn't pull a Return of the King and decided that this was the time for Star Wars to be nominated for everything.
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Jan 13, 2020 15:53
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Very bummed the Farewell didn't get anything. Shuzhen Zhao or Awkafina should have been nominated for acting, at the very least. It's also a weird year for Best Picture. Having seen all of them, Parasite is far and away what I consider to be the best movie. I enjoyed Ford v Ferrari a lot, but I wouldn't really call it elevated cinema or award worthy, and yet it's probably the film I enjoyed 2nd most out of the rest of the nominees. Also really bummed that Willem Dafoe wasn't nominated for much this award season for the Lighthouse.
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Jan 13, 2020 15:55
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was Her Smell eligible this year or would that have been last year? either way Elizabeth Moss was robbed of a Best Actress nomination
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Jan 13, 2020 15:56
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gently caress the academy. They better give poo poo to parasite. Or even the joker. gently caress it
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Jan 13, 2020 16:03
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Would have liked to see Us get some love. At least a nomination for Lupita Nyong'o. Could have taken Theron's place for leading actress.
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Jan 13, 2020 16:05
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I literally haven’t seen any of the movies of the best actresses category. Like what the hell I’d going on over there lol
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Jan 13, 2020 16:10
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11 nominations for Joker, fuckin lol. Phoenix deserves the best actor nod and I guess I can see cinematography, but Best Picture and Best Director?  I don't think it is a bad movie really but there are at least 10 other films I'd put on the list before it.
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Jan 13, 2020 16:14
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I’ll be really upset if 1917 wins anything. Also dark waters got snubbed. loving marriage story are you serious. Also idc if joker gets a lot of nominations. I think there’s movies on here that make zero sense. Like Jojo rabbit. Like for real They literally hosed over uncut gems for no reason.
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Jan 13, 2020 16:17
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Really surprised that Greta Gerwig got snubbed. I still need to see, The Farewell, Joker, Jojo Rabbit and 1917. Other than that I've seen everything (I dont think I care about FvF)
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Jan 13, 2020 16:20
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Apollo 11 had the best soundtrack of last year. The academy is a joke(r).
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Jan 13, 2020 16:26
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pospysyl posted:Actors: Eddie Murphy (Dolemite is My Name), anyone from Parasite. I know Murphy's blacklisted for being a poor sport, but how is he blacklisted while Polanski and Allen aren't? Roman Polanski actually is literally blacklisted: https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-48021540
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The REAL Goobusters posted:They literally hosed over uncut gems for no reason. It honestly boils down to: the academy is mostly elderly men, and Uncut Gems has loud music and a lot of swear words. Films for grandpas win Oscars, which is why 1917 is all over this list
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Jan 13, 2020 16:28
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bows1 posted:Really surprised that Greta Gerwig got snubbed. Same. I definitely wouldn't expect her to win because of all the big established names in best director this year but it's a huge bummer she couldn't even get a nom. She definitely deserves it more than Todd Philips lmao
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Jan 13, 2020 16:34
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Road Trip is a more interesting movie with more complicated ideas than Joker.
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Jan 13, 2020 16:53
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The Gerwig disrespect is a standout. Wow.
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Jan 13, 2020 16:54
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I rarely have an emotional reaction to Oscar nominations but Apollo 11 but not getting a nod is pretty disappointing and surprising given the critical reception and box office performance.
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Jan 13, 2020 16:56
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Yo what the gently caress?!EL BROMANCE posted:Visual Effects Nothing for Alita: Battle Angel but loving Endgame gets a nod?!
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Jan 13, 2020 17:00
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The REAL Goobusters posted:I literally haven’t seen any of the movies of the best actresses category. Like what the hell I’d going on over there lol That seems to happen a lot and likely speaks to a broad trend of female led movies not receiving as much mainstream acclaim.
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Jan 13, 2020 17:01
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Faster posted:I rarely have an emotional reaction to Oscar nominations but Apollo 11 but not getting a nod is pretty disappointing and surprising given the critical reception and box office performance. Documentary is the most corrupt Oscar outside of maybe original song. The fact that a doc has never been nominated for best picture lays bare their impression that it's an inferior practice. Even so, you're right, it's kind of shocking not to see it there.
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Jan 13, 2020 17:03
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A lot of snubs, obviously, but I can't think of anything more egregious than Uncut Gems being left out of Cinematography and Sound Mixing. Almost as bad as Hawke's snub last year.
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Aces High posted:Yo what the gently caress?! lol, the eyes were too big for the awards
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