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Gone Fashing posted:one of the rules is that the bathroom sink works so i dont think dehydration is an issue Yeah, if you can drink water from the sink and it isn't tainted or non-potable, then you could stretch the food needed and survive for many, many years. You might die from illnesses, infections, allergies, scurvy, etc before that though. Total roll of the dice.
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:Yeah, if you can drink water from the sink and it isn't tainted or non-potable, then you could stretch the food needed and survive for many, many years. You might die from illnesses, infections, allergies, scurvy, etc before that though. Total roll of the dice.
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:Yeah, if you can drink water from the sink and it isn't tainted or non-potable, then you could stretch the food needed and survive for many, many years. You might die from illnesses, infections, allergies, scurvy, etc before that though. Total roll of the dice. I think you greatly overestimate my self-discipline. I'd eat like 5000 calories per day simply out of boredom.
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Jan 14, 2020 01:22
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Giraffe posted:I think you greatly overestimate my self-discipline. I'd eat like 5000 calories per day simply out of boredom. that is really impressive. I would have to try to eat 3000 calories.You just do it without trying
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Jan 14, 2020 01:25
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i'm reminded of that one web comic about the office workers rebelling and living in the office in a primative lifestyle/ culture
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Jan 14, 2020 01:27
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Zippy the Bummer posted:i'm reminded of that one web comic about the office workers rebelling and living in the office in a primative lifestyle/ culture His name was Dilbert
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Jan 14, 2020 01:29
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Once you run out of actual food, I think makeup could possibly be edible, plus just put some Tabasco or similar sauce on Maxi Pads for fiber/flavor.
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Jan 14, 2020 01:32
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I was thinking that too. With practically unlimited water and multivitamins starving to death is going to be a very slow end, probably running into months as desperate hunger drives you to find out what types of foot-cream have calories.
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Jan 14, 2020 01:48
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You'd have enough narcotics to try the strategy of that shipwrecked guy in that Steven King short story.
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Jan 14, 2020 01:59
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Giraffe posted:I think you greatly overestimate my self-discipline. I'd eat like 5000 calories per day simply out of boredom. Maybe, but you could just take one of the phone chargers and post stupid poo poo on these dying forums or play bad phone games all day. But I guess I'm not one who eats out of boredom.  Also uh, I don't think you understand how much 5k calories is. You'd have to almost never stop snacking to get past 3k or so.
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Jan 14, 2020 02:04
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20-30yrs, the CVS/Walgreens here sells seeds and potting soil.... assuming sunlight isn’t outlawed by these bullshit rules, grow my own food, maybe even potatoes in my own poo poo like Matt Damon did.
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Jan 14, 2020 02:05
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Eclipse12 posted:You'd have enough narcotics to try the strategy of that shipwrecked guy in that Steven King short story. he's just a poor stoned crab
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Jan 14, 2020 02:07
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Probably until the sundown when you're reunited with the other stragglers and exchanged for a crate of ammunition and non-perishables.
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Jan 14, 2020 02:08
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I think I'd just choose to die once the Danish canned hams were gone
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Jan 14, 2020 02:15
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I made it a couple of hours before the cops escorted me off the premises, so at least that long!
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Jan 14, 2020 02:33
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If it's a big Walgreens I dunno at least 2 or 3 years easily But why
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Jan 14, 2020 02:41
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Also what's the rule on the pharmacy because opiates slow your metabolism to an absolute crawl
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Jan 14, 2020 02:43
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Sure you could live for quite a while but what then? Do you live like some sort of loving animal? Why bathe? Why wear clothing? Why not pee in the sink? You wouldn't even be a human being anymore.
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Jan 14, 2020 02:46
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Does the CVS have wifi
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Jan 14, 2020 02:47
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probably a couple of months if it was "the mist" scenario. A few days if there are other survivors who will swarm the location.
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Jan 14, 2020 02:50
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grillster posted:Plot twist... door code is unknown
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Jan 14, 2020 02:53
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Nah, it's easier to kick a hole in the wall next to the door. Just be sure the Walgreens wasn't built by grover.
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Jan 14, 2020 02:58
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If you can cook, if there are large bags of rice and beans you could live a year or so. A koku of rice, 330lbs of it roughly, was expected to feed a man for a year. If that's about 17 big sacks of it, then you might have that in store. Supplementing with beans or lentils, or other canned goods, that could last you longer. So at least a year in good health, much longer in poor health.
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Jan 14, 2020 03:11
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Trying to see what I wrote that made it sound like you couldn't physically leave. I guess it looks implied. You can leave, you just can't eat food when you do (unless you brought it with you from Walgreens). I guess the scenario could be interesting either way. Or dumb either way. I originally thought about it because I was wondering how much actual sustenance a place like that has, and how hard it can be to estimate. Like I said in the original post, I wouldn't be surprised if it's only a year or so, but I would totally believe if someone did the math and it turns out a decade is feasible. It's more a math problem than a psychological one.
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Would an elephant, cut into chunks, fill the food shelves of a Walgreens? Seems reasonable. The biggest African elephants weigh 13,000 pounds. A pound of meat is probably 800-1000 calories in average. So that gives upwards of 13 million calories. At a reasonable 2000 per day, that's 6500 days. Just under 18 years to eat an elephant at a normal caloric intake. Now, you can't eat bones, but some parts are gonna be pure fat, so it should be close. A blue whale is 300,000 pounds, so that's impossible. It'd be 23 elephants. If (and that's a very uncertain if) a large elephant has enough meat to stock a Walgreens, then you could live on Walgreens food for upwards of 18 years, especially at only a little over 1000 calories per day. Please don't try to correct any of my math. Eclipse12 fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Jan 14, 2020 |
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Testikles posted:If you can cook, if there are large bags of rice and beans you could live a year or so. A koku of rice, 330lbs of it roughly, was expected to feed a man for a year. If that's about 17 big sacks of it, then you might have that in store. Supplementing with beans or lentils, or other canned goods, that could last you longer. So at least a year in good health, much longer in poor health. OP also said nothing ages until you open it so you could ration out the frozen and canned fruits and veggies and supplement with the vitamin aisle and last a good bit in fair shape. The real catch is that he said a currently stocked walgreens/cvs rather than a fully stocked one, so any food anyone would actually want to eat is probably out already. Also if expiration dates applied regularly, most of your options would be ruled out from the start since nobody there checks those.
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If I was aware I was trapped I would start off by eating the talcum powder and tampons or whatever the hell was technically edible. That way when I starve to death, my last meal will be something good and nourishing and I won't feel like such a desperate animal pawing at crumbs of lipstick.
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Jan 14, 2020 03:47
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are people still actively shopping and working in the store? this is important to how I allocate the use of eggs/shrimp. (eating vs hiding under the base of the shelving randomly around the store)
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Jan 14, 2020 03:52
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:Yeah, if you can drink water from the sink and it isn't tainted or non-potable, then you could stretch the food needed and survive for many, many years. You might die from illnesses, infections, allergies, scurvy, etc before that though. Total roll of the dice. Scurvy should be out. There are hundreds of bottles of vitamins and each bottle lasts 2-3 months, so getting enough vitamin C should never be a problem. Not for decades, anyway. Vitamin C in particular is covered since it's in multivitamins, separate vitamin C tablets, and also added to a bunch of things like cough drops -- and you don't even need to start using the supplement supply until after you've gone through all the fruit, fruit juice, horrible fruit cocktail, apple sauce, cranberry sauce, fruit pie filling, etc.
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OP it's pretty clear you're going to need to get a job there and work your way up to manager so you can see the stock records to figure out the total caloric content of the store.
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RavenousScoot posted:Also if expiration dates applied regularly, most of your options would be ruled out from the start since nobody there checks those. Very true. I worked as a cashier at Walgreens years back and I would restock the cooler on slow nights. I'd run into yogurts or ham with dates that expired months earlier more than a few times, which I'm sure is ordinary by drug store standards. But it doesn't really matter so much because there's plenty of non-perishable goods to eat for years in your average Walgreens or CVS location.
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Eclipse12 posted:This is why everyone loves math nerds I do my best, and consider that I went with "the shelves are stocked 0.1% as efficiently as those buckets are" I mean we're talking about a 1/1000 factor here, which I think is generously pessimistic considering that I've seen like tubs of oil and bags of beans and rice at my local walgreens. So I'd take those 2ish years as the bare minimum starting point for any discussion on the topic. It's probably much greater than that. This is also ignoring the plethora of supplements available that would make any hypothetical diet able to match nutritional guidelines as a given. Some fat guy survived in a clinical setting on water and multivitamins for over a year so it clearly wouldn't really matter even if many of the meals boiled down to rice with some oil or fistfuls of peanuts.
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ArbitraryC posted:I do my best, and consider that I went with "the shelves are stocked 0.1% as efficiently as those buckets are" I mean we're talking about a 1/1000 factor here, which I think is generously pessimistic considering that I've seen like tubs of oil and bags of beans and rice at my local walgreens. So I'd take those 2ish years as the bare minimum starting point for any discussion on the topic. It's probably much greater than that. It would really depend on what the survivor was expected to do. A dude could probably live on less than 1000 calories a day for a good long while if he was allowed to just lay around watching TV all day. But if you still have to hold down a job and generally be a functional human being then you'll need more.
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Eclipse12 posted:I feel like this is outside of the rules, as it says the food must be CURRENTLY stocked. Both stores stock potting soil, seeds, and pots. 
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Slayerjerman posted:20-30yrs, the CVS/Walgreens here sells seeds and potting soil.... assuming sunlight isn’t outlawed by these bullshit rules, grow my own food, maybe even potatoes in my own poo poo like Matt Damon did. Great minds and all that!
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Jan 14, 2020 04:20
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This is interesting lol Is there a working toilet? Are you trapped inside? Where do you put your poo poo? If toilet doesn't work I guess you are forced to fill plastic containers Oh, bags. Bags could take years to fill. So you are good. I think you could survive for a decade but I'd surely OD long before that.
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Spinz posted:This is interesting lol Don't imagine you can live off mushrooms growing in your bags of poo poo. OP says food grown from the contents of the store doesn't count.
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Xaintrailles posted:I was thinking that too. With practically unlimited water and multivitamins starving to death is going to be a very slow end, probably running into months as desperate hunger drives you to find out what types of foot-cream have calories. Foot-cream Lol
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Jan 14, 2020 05:10
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This has captured my imagination because imagine the boredom Seriously For SURE you would kill yourself. Nothing to read but tabloids and a few pulpy novels MAYBE. You could write... No internet and alone I'd kill myself in 3 months
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it's not a great show all around but its decent and you would prob enjoy Last Man on Earth
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