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Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



https://twitter.com/TheBurnham/status/1222354712869179393
(click "play")

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Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Random Stranger posted:

I kind of agree with your point, and the racism in Little Nemo does come across as being built on ignorance and bad cultural short hands rather than open hate. It's a bit like The Spirit in that regard, though I think Eisner tries to improve on his early depictions of African-Americans (not totally successfully, but the portrayal of Ebony White in 1948 is much better than his portrayal in 1942). The thing is, I'm always hesitant to recommend something problematic like that and I'm especially hesitant when there's so much of it like in Little Nemo. I tried to find a good Little Nemo strip to post in a thread a while back and it was hard to find on that didn't feature an unfortunate caricature.

I have the complete collection that Taschen published years ago. You can find non-racist stuff during the beginning (when it was just nemo fallig though a dream and before he meets people besides the dream royalty). But yeah, after that? YI-KES.

I think the "Return To Slumberland" series from Shanower and Rodríguez managed to skirt that by recoloring one character from black to green so that it was more of a hobo caricature and not deeply racist to black people. Also, I think they eliminate the native/witch doctor character. Plus, I think Rodríguez manages to come pretty close to Mckay in his designs and backgrounds.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



drrockso20 posted:

If you're talking about Flip he was pretty much always drawn green, and indeed was pretty much always meant to be a little tramp child*, though you are right about that other character, and while the racist stuff is indeed unpleasant, I feel the comic overall has enough strong points to be more than worth reading even today

*well besides the animated movie which made him into an adult character so they could keep some of his aspects as a character that had evolved from simply being absurd for a kid to being downright verboten by the early 90's(like him smoking cigars)

Ah, it's been a minute or two since I read it so you're probably right.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:

drat, I waited too long, and I don't think there's any way I could process my Suicide Squad comics for binding (tearing out the double-sided ad pages and back covers), send them out to Herring and Robinson in California, and get them back in Florida in time to meet John Ostrander at MegaCon in mid-April. It's just about two months away, and that's cutting it too close. Plus, I'll be out of town until the final Sunday of MegaCon, so that day would be my one chance to attend. If there's some issue with the mail while I'm away, I would be sunk.

I haven't seen Redbackground post in BSS forever, but he came up with the best binding map for Suicide Squad, with all these extra tie-in issues added chronologically, and I have them all. I had years to get these comics bound, but never felt like spending the money because I never thought Ostrander would come to a con here. I'm annoyed at myself, and I know I could just have him sign a few key issues, but it wouldn't feel the same.

What if you ask him to sign the first issue, your favorite one, the last and a white page and use it as a bookplate when you bind the run later?

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



For as much as we hate Slott's writing here, it looks like Marvel can't get enough and now the big company-wide event that will surely change everything is being helmed by him.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Yvonmukluk posted:

Wait, is this Empyre or something else?

Also: gently caress.

Yup.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



I think I realized why I don’t like Benjamin Marra and Tony Scioli. To me, they are the cartoonist equivalent of a “remember...” joke from family guy.
They are a worse version of the styles that they are imitating (ok...homaging). Scioli is clearly Kirby (and flat colors with some silver age beats and themes to his stories) and Marra is the teenager who never grew out of his “Woah, this Faust dude rules!” phase after buying an issue and who never thought to evolve his style.
This, I will admit, made them feel way more outsider and I guess is why along with others like Stokoe (who only gets better with each new thing he puts out; Graham, at the time before we all became aware of the chaser and sexual abusing piece of poo poo he was; Hanselman, who, if nothing else has stuck to his “Fantagraphics bad boy” well enough past the expiration date (like Bagge for a while) and Santoro (I remember him being named in the same sentence as those others) they became the white boys indie darlings du jour (so far In the interviews I’ve read of Hanselman he uses male pronouns, but if anyone knows if that’s no longer the case, please tell me and I’ll change that last part).
Long rant over. To summarize Scioli and Marra are to me the call back joke that the vice crowd (people who are way to old to think they are young and cool) ate up and their comics are a bit of a wet fart.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



A Strange Aeon posted:

Are you saying you're meh to all the other names you list as well? Hanselman in particular I feel is doing super funny and dark stuff.
Actively avoid rather than “meh”. Except for Stokoe.
I just could never get into Hanselman mainly because I’m not into mean storytelling and I found the M,M&O strips repetitive.

How Wonderful is right, I totally forgot about Fife (and DeForge and Dalrymple could be on the same group), the only thing I don’t dig about him was his early decision to make Copra as hard to find as possible. I think it’s on Image now, or at least it has digital editions so I’m gonna read it after I finish Suicide Squad (I hit a wall with the Janus Directive crossover with all the spy books from the 80’s).

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



How Wonderful! posted:

I kind of admired his early very DIY distribution model but I can also see how it could be an enormous pain in the rear end for somebody else and I'm definitely glad his work is getting a wider audience now. DeForge and Dalrymple do rule too but I'm interested in how they fit under the same umbrella as all those other people. Dalrymple in particular I think reminds me more of like, James Sturm or Guy Davis, that really fine scratchy style.

Oh, I wasn't grouping them stylistically, more like how they came up on the scene relatively close to each other.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



https://twitter.com/heythisisbrian/status/1230971833995988992

My last few posts have been kinda grumpy, so I'm gonna post about something I like.

The art in Dr. Strange and The Sorceress Supreme was spectacular. Even with the change in artists, every issue had something to make you go "woah".

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



I know posting your own tweets is terribly gauche, but I am so proud of this terrible joke

Vincent fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Feb 29, 2020

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Gripweed posted:

I feel like he would show up more often if they didn't.

So the appearances on Spider-Geddon had to be paid for by Marvel? Huh, I never really thought of comic-book cameos as something that had to be paid for (I do know that Toei Spider-Man is the exception and not the rule, I'm sure DC doesn't get a dime when someone draws Clark Kent in a panel).

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.



And sometimes it ain't. (Cover fo the next issue of Immortal Hulk).

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



site posted:

gaming webcomics must suck poo poo then cuz it wasnt funny at all

They do.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Wendell posted:

Does our hero The Flash successfully stop this elf from saving the planet?

Never forget that Barry Allen is a cop.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



How Wonderful! posted:

It's like that song "Escape," he was with you all along.

The piña colada song?

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Eisner nominations are out.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/2020-eisner-nominees-complete-list-1297196

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Open Marriage Night posted:

Colossus had a lot of good painted art in the nineties. I miss those old Marvel Masterworks cards.

I'm guessing it was because the artist wanted to play with him being all shiny and probably flex their color muscles a little?
Edit: And, of course, because Colossus is cool.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Happy Hippo posted:

The Eisners were all going to sexmonsters

To be fair, that's like 70% of the comics industry.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Lurdiak posted:

Anyway without getting too personal I'd advise any longtime BSS posters to look into who exactly is in charge of B&R before rushing to join.

Can't you tell us istead? Who is the person in charge and what is bread and roses? Because my only reaction to that name comes from a group that says it's all about socialist feminism, but has known abusers in their ranks.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Reading another thread that Dickeye, is involved. I like her, but I now see why Lurdiak reacted the way they did.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



The art in this thread whips rear end
https://twitter.com/JakaAdy/status/1277139534199656449

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



(Super) dudes rock
https://twitter.com/thechrishaley/status/1280993497613508608

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



This is, by the way, without one shred of irony.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



It's gonna be written by King so I expect that we find out Rorschach has a kid and that he he Sad About It.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



He also directed a movie about werewolves.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Wait, wait. Marvels Universal Madona, Engleheart's pet character that he tried to ram into every story he wrote, who was supposed to be all important... was because she was supposed to get down with a plant and make a vegetable jesus? hahahahahahahahaahahah

(I'm starting my readthrough on empyre).

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Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Comics are the best.

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