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davidspackage
May 16, 2007



Exciting Lemon

Kingtheninja posted:

I will say I think my favorite shot in the movie is Patrick Stewart bravely escorting the house pug away in what appears to be a baby Bjorn.

You young pup!

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Tree Bucket
Apr 1, 2016

GEORGIE?


davidspackage posted:

You young pup!

Gurney, man!

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006



Paolomania posted:

I cannot imagine 80's Hollywood being able to choreograph or convincingly sell military-supremacy-through-desert-woo-knife-fighting.

Why didn't they just make them desert ninjas? Missed opportunities...

G-III
Mar 4, 2001



While I'm looking forward to this new adaptation, the promotional stills so far (which look good) just doesn't have that creative aura that the Lynch Dune had. However, I'm sure it will be pretty stellar once you see the final product in full motion. It'll be hard for me not compare the two as I've loved the Lynch Dune as a staple of my media consumption diet since I first saw it at 4 years old.

A lot of people poo poo on Lynch Dune for straying from the original source material, but forget that Herbert himself was heavily involved in the production and came up with many of the changes because he knew what he put on the page wouldn't translate well into a ~2 hour movie. There was a forward he wrote in a republishing of one of his non-dune novels that goes into this that unfortunately I can't find but folks should really watch / listen to this interview series with Herbert himself talking about the production.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?li...B56D3BC65D21C17

Nerds get caught up on notions of 'accuracy' and 'authenticity' because their brains make them believe that pointing out discrepancies between source and adaptation because they believe it makes them appear to be smart to others. What sucks with this mindset is that it prevents them from actually enjoying something on its own merits.

Jodorowsky's dune concepts would have strayed heavily from the source material but goddamn would that have been such a glorious movie had it gotten off the ground.

G-III fucked around with this message at 14:52 on May 21, 2020

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.



G-III posted:

Jodorowsky's dune concepts would have strayed heavily from the source material but goddamn would that have been such a glorious movie had it gotten off the ground.

I was really sad at the end of the documentary about it when Jodorowsky just says straight up that while he personally is done with Dune he'd be thrilled if someone took his Dune bible/storyboards/etc. and made it because like, that would own but of course there's no way in hell it would ever happen. Like I'm very hyped for this new one and nothing against Hans Zimmer but they're clearly not even going to go particularly out there with the music which is like Toto's Dune score absolutely fuckin' rules and, Tyler's Children of Dune score was excellent too he even designed some new wind instruments specifically for it and put a ton of effort into it.

david_a
Apr 24, 2010



Megamarm

G-III posted:

Jodorowsky's dune concepts would have strayed heavily from the source material but goddamn would that have been such a glorious movie had it gotten off the ground.

If that movie had somehow gotten funding I think there was still only like a 25% chance it would have been finished and probably a less than 10% chance it would have actually been good. I’m sure it would have been an “experience” no matter what but I don’t think Jodorowsky actually had the skills to direct a movie like that. Living on as one of the ultimate What If movies with a lot of rad concept art is probably the best fate it could have had.

Hakkesshu
Nov 3, 2009



If Jodorowsky's Dune had happened we might never have gotten Alien, and that's not a worthwhile trade.

Halloween Jack
Sep 11, 2003

Let your word be "Yes, Yes" or "No, No"; anything more than this comes from the evil one.



Alien is good but imagine the even worse hell timeline we'd be living in if anything had prevented Dan O'Bannon from making Return of the Living Dead

G-III
Mar 4, 2001



Halloween Jack posted:

Alien is good but imagine the even worse hell timeline we'd be living in if anything had prevented Dan O'Bannon from making Return of the Living Dead

We would never have gotten the Linnea Quigley dancing in a cemetery while naked. Based on that I will agree.

MasqueradeOverture
Apr 4, 2020

No.

Hakkesshu posted:

If Jodorowsky's Dune had happened we might never have gotten Alien, and that's not a worthwhile trade.

We would've never gotten Star Wars either.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.


MasqueradeOverture posted:

We would've never gotten Star Wars either.

so what you're saying is it would be worth it

plus maybe in that universe Species is the actually-good horror franchise with H. R. Giger designs

Sierra Nevadan
Nov 1, 2010



Species vs Predator would blow my mind. One wants to gently caress, one wants to hunt.

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY


Would never have had Alien without A.E. van Vogt.

Xealot
Nov 25, 2002

Showdown in the Galaxy Era.



david_a posted:

I’m sure it would have been an “experience” no matter what but I don’t think Jodorowsky actually had the skills to direct a movie like that.

I don’t think skill or lack of skill would’ve had anything to do with it. The Holy Mountain is hardly some small, manageable indie...it’s really huge and ambitious, just also very strange and off-putting. He’d have succeeded at making Dune the way he wanted, it’d just be a weird and alienating take on the story.

I’d honestly prefer a graphic novel. All his Dune energy went into The Incal anyway...might as well stick with that medium, where Orson Welles or Salvador Dali can still show up.

Halloween Jack
Sep 11, 2003

Let your word be "Yes, Yes" or "No, No"; anything more than this comes from the evil one.



phasmid posted:

Would never have had Alien without A.E. van Vogt.
It bothers me that most people don't know the history of the displacer beast.

TheOmegaWalrus
Feb 3, 2007


Show us the worm Villeneuve you despicable coward.

porfiria
Dec 10, 2008


Just walk without rhythm.

DarkSol
May 18, 2006

Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines.

Neo Rasa posted:

I was really sad at the end of the documentary about it when Jodorowsky just says straight up that while he personally is done with Dune he'd be thrilled if someone took his Dune bible/storyboards/etc. and made it because like, that would own but of course there's no way in hell it would ever happen. Like I'm very hyped for this new one and nothing against Hans Zimmer but they're clearly not even going to go particularly out there with the music which is like Toto's Dune score absolutely fuckin' rules and, Tyler's Children of Dune score was excellent too he even designed some new wind instruments specifically for it and put a ton of effort into it.

I wish he would publish copies of that giant Dune tome that he has. I know that a lot of his treatment turned into The Incal, but I'm sure there are significant differences between the two.

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY


DarkSol posted:

I wish he would publish copies of that giant Dune tome that he has. I know that a lot of his treatment turned into The Incal, but I'm sure there are significant differences between the two.

Watching Jodo's Dune I think a lot of people had the same feeling. There had to be so much other cool poo poo in there besides Foss and Moebius (who are great). Although his Dune probably would have been too hallucinogenic for its own good, I *loved* the storyboard of the movie's opening (which concludes with a blue cloud of pure spice seeping out of the wreckage of a smuggler ship).

The thought I had most reading the Incal was "drat, that would look great in a movie".

Cacator
Aug 6, 2005

You're quite good at turning me on.



phasmid posted:

The thought I had most reading the Incal was "drat, that would look great in a movie".

You could just watch The Fifth Element.

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY


Cacator posted:

You could just watch The Fifth Element.

Or Heavy Metal.


But nah, the Incal books had a lot more stuff in em.

Rando
Mar 11, 2004



Again, nobody wants to see Salvador Dali poo poo into a glass dolphin.

Pascallion
Sep 15, 2003
Man, what the fuck, man?

*timidly raises hand*

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS


Hair Elf

Rando posted:

Again, nobody wants to see Salvador Dali poo poo into a glass dolphin.

Rando
Mar 11, 2004



My mistake.

DarkSol
May 18, 2006

Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines.

phasmid posted:

Watching Jodo's Dune I think a lot of people had the same feeling. There had to be so much other cool poo poo in there besides Foss and Moebius (who are great). Although his Dune probably would have been too hallucinogenic for its own good, I *loved* the storyboard of the movie's opening (which concludes with a blue cloud of pure spice seeping out of the wreckage of a smuggler ship).

The thought I had most reading the Incal was "drat, that would look great in a movie".

the_enduser
May 1, 2006

[CENSORED]
(Content Violation)



Yo where's the fuckin trailer already.

Rando
Mar 11, 2004



Maybe there's some problems in post but lots of other movies release trailers with incomplete effects and music so who knows. Hasn't been much in the way of marketing at all, has there?

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

EVERY FAIRY TALE NEEDS ITS HERO.

Yeah, I'm guessing if it hadn't been for the pandemic we'd have a trailer already, but film marketing has been very very slow for the past couple of months. Very few trailers. Studios are moving release dates constantly so they're probably just playing a waiting game with it. Still, seems strange that we just got a bunch of stills then nothing. Usually that's what precedes a teaser trailer.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.




C H A O S D U N C

Last King
Sep 29, 2007

In corporate R'lyeh, Cthulhu works you.



Fun Shoe

Davros1 posted:

Now I'm imagining a Dune starring Steven Seagal as Paul.

just gonna leave this here:



if this is paul, just imagine his father...

David D. Davidson
Nov 17, 2012

Orca lady?

Yeah, Segal would be a more subdued Baron Harkonnen who is just having liquified Xanax constantly pumped into his bloodstream.

Bubbacub
Apr 17, 2001



That bottom middle picture

He's like that airsoft kid with the giant head

Halloween Jack
Sep 11, 2003

Let your word be "Yes, Yes" or "No, No"; anything more than this comes from the evil one.



Having seen that film, he's in it for like five minutes of screen time and I don't remember if he was ever filmed actually moving.

david_a
Apr 24, 2010



Megamarm

Halloween Jack posted:

Having seen that film, he's in it for like five minutes of screen time and I don't remember if he was ever filmed actually moving.

There’s one of his movies where they green screen him running. He’s just bouncing up and down over a fake background.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-ynfOMi0Jo

Bubbacub
Apr 17, 2001



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qa27NxITlo

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

Only dead doggos
follow the stream.



The number of pear shaped white guys that Steven Seagal has inspired to get beaten up by people who can actually fight must be uncountable.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017



sean10mm posted:

The number of pear shaped white guys that Steven Seagal has inspired to get beaten up by people who can actually fight must be uncountable.

I'll always remember, I think it was Seanbaby, talking about Seagal demonstrating akido to Hollywood execs and being amazed they didn't realize people get flipped by Seagal only when they want to be flipped.

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Prolonged Priapism
Dec 21, 2007
Holy hookrat Sally smoking crack in the alley!





The Waddling Way of battle.

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