Hodgepodge posted:

One of the biggest changes from the books and first film, iirc, is that the characters aren't already spice addicts with glowing blue eyes. Basically, everyone should be a spice addict.

Neo Rasa posted:

I forget in the book after Kynes dies and the time jump is the position of imperial planetologist left empty?

BlankSystemDaemon posted:

Gonna need a lot of more than stitches, since his head is chopped off with a knife and then unceremoniously dropped on the floor.

Xealot posted:

Not everyone has glowing blue eyes. Everyone in the aristocracy is some level of addicted, but the Fremen are literally exposed to Spice 24/7 from living in the desert. It's the difference between doing key bumps at parties on Kaitain some weekends, and living in a cocaine world where you are constantly breathing in some amount of cocaine every second.

I'm pretty sure the only people more immersed in Spice are Guild Navigators, who do it by design.

Jo Joestar posted:

Reverend Mothers do, from the spice agony, but not as a general rule. Mentats can, just like anybody else, but it's not necessary for the role - Piter's just an addict, which suits the Baron because taking advantage of people's needs is basically his whole management style.

The Dune encyclopedia does mention that coloured contacts to cover up blue eyes are quite popular in Imperial high society, though.

stev posted:

Hey no one said the head would be alive when it was stitched on.

Automatic Slim posted:

Ghola Yueh spider.

uXs posted:

For a movie that pays this much attention to detail, it was very weird to see the Shadout Mapes sheath the Crysknife without drawing blood.

Especially since later on, they do get this correct.

MrL_JaKiri posted:

black.lion posted:

jfc thank you i guffawed in the middle of the imax theatre, and was doubly perplexed when the fremen later clearly did cut themselves before sheathing

my only complaint outside wanting the 4 hour cut

gohmak posted:

https://youtu.be/4EeZEX6VakU

Warner Bros might Greenlight Hyperion

https://www.slashfilm.com/650283/hyperion-movie-adaptation-coming-from-bradley-cooper/

porfiria posted:

Does Hyperion have any deranged anti-Muslim material?

2house2fly posted:

I wished on twittter for a Hyperion film in response to one of those "which unfilmable sci-fi classic would you like to see on the big screen" click bait questions. I hope I didn't cause this

2house2fly posted:

One of the main characters is of Palestinian descent as I recall. He's a war criminal but became an anti-war activist. It's a million years since I read the first book but I like that character in the second because he goes one-on-one with the universe's ultimate killing machine to stop it menacing his friends

porfiria posted:

Does Hyperion have any deranged anti-Muslim material?

AnEdgelord posted:

I think the Bene Gesserit and the Mentats are supposed to have blue eyes as well.

Jo Joestar posted:

Reverend Mothers do, from the spice agony, but not as a general rule. Mentats can, just like anybody else, but it's not necessary for the role - Piter's just an addict, which suits the Baron because taking advantage of people's needs is basically his whole management style.

The Dune encyclopedia does mention that coloured contacts to cover up blue eyes are quite popular in Imperial high society, though.

MrL_JaKiri posted:

So there's a distinction between Dune and the rest of the books. In Dune, how important the spice is to everyone (beyond just being a life extending drug for the upper classes) is less a fait accompli. It's only revealed late in the book that the Guild uses spice for navigation, and the BG explicitly use other drugs as well as the spice for becoming RMs or their truth sensing for example. The Navigators being weird lookin' guys is also only introduced in Messiah.

hump day bitches! posted:

A small note is that the emperor doesn’t know the exact size of the fremen population in Arrakis, or that their martial prowess surpasses that of the sardaukar.

Halloween Jack posted:

I'm a little confused about it. There's a scene where Hawat lays it all out for the Baron, and says that the Sardaukar must have lost several soldiers for every Fremen they killed. I'm not sure if that refers to stuff they did in the attack on the Atreides, or stuff they did a few years ago, before or during the Harkonnen fiefdom.

quote:

"Hah! Then why warn Rabban? There cannot be more than a handful of Fremen left after the Sardaukar pogrom and Rabban's oppression."
Hawat continued to stare at him silently.
"Not more than a handful!" the baron repeated. "Rabban killed six thousand of them last year alone!"
Still, Hawat stared at him.
"And the year before it was nine thousand," the baron said. "And before they left, the Sardaukar must've accounted for at least twenty thousand."
"What are Rabban's troop losses for the past two years?" Hawat asked.
The Baron rubbed his jowls. "Well, he has been recruiting rather heavily, to be sure. His agents make rather extravagant promises and --"
"Shall we say thirty thousand in round numbers?" Hawat asked.
"That would seem a little high," the baron said.
"Quite the contrary," Hawat said. "I can read between the lines of Rabban's reports as well as you can. And you certainly must've understood my reports from our agents."
"Arrakis is a fierce planet," the Baron said. "Storm losses can --"
"We both know the figure for storm accretion," Hawat said.
"What if he has lost thirty thousand?" the Baron demanded, and blood darkened his face.
"By your own count," Hawat said, "he killed fifteen thousand over two years while losing twice that number. You say the Sardaukar accounted for another twenty thousand, possibly a few more. And I've seen the transportation manifests for their return from Arrakis. If they killed twenty thousand, they lost almost five for one. Why won't you face these figures, Baron, and understand what they mean?"