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Jewmanji posted:Feyd and Rabban will have to be consolidated, just like Duncan/Thufir/Gurney, I suspect. Isn’t Bautista playing Rabban? I really doubt he’s been merged with Feyd; Bautista could take on a schoolbus of Tim Chalamets and win.
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2020 22:03 |
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2024 04:48 |
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Honestly the whole human potential angle of the book is so silly and of its time. You could be as smart as a computer if you just studied really, really hard!
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2020 19:30 |
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I never got why in Dune the main fighting style isn’t Monster Trucks—I get why shields obsolete guns, explosives, and lasers (kind of) but what is a dude with a knife going to do about a slow moving vehicle (with maybe some spikes on it etc).
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2020 18:08 |
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Just walk with
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# ¿ May 22, 2020 19:12 |
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I don't think austere is a terrible choice for material like this, and some stuff looked pretty rad anyway (the Sardaukar (?) troopers dropping in front of the wall, Raban & the Baron), but a 15,000 years into the future feudal pre-capitalist spacefaring society is an excuse to go apeshit.
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2020 07:36 |
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The first book has a fun adventure plot and cool political intrigue (at least the first 2/3rds). Herbert wasn't a particularly great writer though and there's not much of interest in the subsequent novels.
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2020 21:34 |
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Anne Frank Funk posted:phew, what a hot take I don't think it's that hot. Dune is seminal sci fi, no doubt about it, but Herbert's weird perspective issues weaken a lot of his scenes, for example.
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2020 22:27 |
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Is there any reason why in Dune the preferred method of fighting isn't to ram SUVs into each other? Wouldn't a shielded SUV ramming into a shielded dude still gently caress the dude up really bad from getting thrown around?
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2021 19:32 |
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I feel like there would be more pikes in Dune irl.
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2021 20:38 |
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Herbert explicitly said Windows 95 was just at the edge of legality in Dune, but Windows 98 was banned.
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2021 04:26 |
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Kurzon posted:The duel felt so cliché. Paul runs into some Injuns in the desert, they think he's a pussy, so to earn their respect he must beat one of them in a duel. Someone here pointed out that Dune plays like a Young Adult novel and...it's kinda true.
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2021 08:30 |
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I think Frank Herbet was some kind of 60s California Libertarian, which isn't as bad as 2020s Libertarian but still features a lot of Dumb Ideas. Also he hated gays, which is pretty obvious in the book.
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# ¿ Sep 26, 2021 05:48 |
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Nolan really really loves movie theatres. Like, more than he loves human life.
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2021 19:08 |
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Tankbuster posted:The throatsinging Sardaukar basecamp sequence has buried into my brain. It's the best scene in the movie. There are A LOT of scenes of dudes standing in squares in landing fields and that one crushed it.
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2021 05:10 |
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Pedro De Heredia posted:Wait a second That's kinda surprising, but I think the marketing suggested some Army vs Aliens action, and the surest way to get a general audience to react negatively to something is to give them something they're not expecting. And maybe people were confused by the ending.
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2021 20:14 |
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This isn't really in the movie at all but how are smugglers supposed to work in the Dune-iverse? Is the idea that they sneak onto Guild ships or sneak contraband cargo onto above board shipments?
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2021 01:01 |
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It was pretty funny the Atreides were using some phalanx tactics on the steps to the palace. That...seems like a pretty good idea, although isn't the canonical idea with the Hotlzmann effect that it actually reflects momentum? But what if your spear has a shield on it?
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2021 01:39 |
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Nitrousoxide posted:Considering they were willing to use lasers against shielded targets, I think it's safe to say the Hotlzmann effect is different in the movie compared to the book except for where they explicitly said things are the same. Yeah which I think raises the question of why everyone isn't using lasers in the movie. That one they used on the door didn't look THAT cumbersome--why not just use those to cut the Atreides to pieces in the landing zone? Maybe lasers flat out don't work on shields in the movie?
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2021 01:46 |
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Tankbuster posted:Incels will just copy the Sardaukar instead. They'll identify with black spider mutant.
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2021 03:10 |
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It's got a pretty good script and some good acting, but also some bad acting and it's lit like a stage play and has a bunch of dumb dutch angles. You should look up the Ian McNiece scenes on Youtube.
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2021 09:26 |
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Denis feels like one of those directors with a fantastic visual sensibility who's ultimately at the mercy of the script he's working with. I feel like his next project should be Koyanisqaatsi 2.
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2021 23:42 |
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Jason Momoa should only play parts where he's a contemporary cool dude, or doesn't speak English.
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2021 01:24 |
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kater posted:i clicked on some links in the dune wiki and got to a never made french 70s movie featuring 2000 extras pooping. The cut dinner scene. Denis only had 100 poopers, which is truer to the book to be honest. "Father! Father. The sphincter has awakened!" --Paul Muad'Dib
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2021 05:45 |
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Who should they cast as the Emperor? I say Ian McDiarmid or Michael Cera.
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# ¿ Oct 27, 2021 00:28 |
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DeimosRising posted:Are there any notable takes on this movie (in the thread or elsewhere) that aren’t primarily about how “well” it adapts the novel? A discussion of the movie itself as cinema or even just in context of some other movies or something Nah. It's worth pointing out that this movie covered 2/3rds of the book--and the last 3rd of the book doesn't really have all that much plot beyond Jessica and Paul doing weird drug trip stuff, a few scenes with the Baron, meeting Gurney, and then the big climax. So there'll be, I expect, a lot more space for Villeneuve to shape the narrative. As far as movie qua movie: honestly I'm not sure there's really all that much to say outside the context of the books. It's curiously unreconstructed in some ways--the Harkonnens are hyper-capitalist post-Geiger Cenobite nightmares, the Sardaukar are American Spec Ops Pagan Chuds, the Atreides are marginally preferable in that they're British Raj or maybe Clinton era Americans, except Paul & Co. who go native. The Fremen are...well, they're not exactly the Mujahedeen. They're about as ambiguously ethnic as the Atreides. Chani in the opening voice over points out the Atreides are just another colonial master, which is fair enough, but what is Paul exactly? Lynch's Dune is ultimately tale of personal psychic liberation via drugs, sex, and rock-and-roll against the forces of oppression, conformity, and ultraviolence. It's hard to really get a read on this version without an ending... I was hoping there'd be a strong OPEC/Energy/Scarcity/Water/Climate Change angle, but there's very little of the economics or physics here. porfiria fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Oct 27, 2021 |
# ¿ Oct 27, 2021 06:20 |
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This thread is getting boring where is smg
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2021 21:37 |
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Gaj posted:I liked it, but it work better as a mini-series or a perfectly done HBO series. We got the first act of the first book, and how many years will it take to get act 2? It's actually worth noting we got 2/3rds of the novel in this movie. I think a lot of people forget that there's not all that much event after Paul joins the Fremen--he and his mom [vague spoilers] gain their powers and acculturate and then it's the climax.
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2021 03:10 |
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I feel like all you need to know about the KJA/BH books is that the Butlerian Jihad is imagined as Humans Vs. Robots.
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2021 03:38 |
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Does Hyperion have any deranged anti-Muslim material?
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# ¿ Nov 3, 2021 02:30 |
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Ej posted:Finally got to see this, and feel like bleeding my thoughts out onto the sands of this thread. Don't have anything to add at the moment, but thanks for the Good Post. Worth a million boring takes on the Laser Guns.
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2021 20:28 |
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"There was not a chance in hell of her showing me up. Loved it!"
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2021 00:03 |
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In dune messiah theres a dwarf named bijaz. A character uses super ninja voice inflection to tell an 80 year old woman shes not a sex object. The bene gesserit try to make paul and his sister gently caress.
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2021 23:31 |
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I feel like the Jihad in the books is really weird--it's something Paul doesn't want to happen, and the Fremen seem like chill Zen Sufis who just want to get high, ride worms, and grow plants all day. There's zero sense of any kind of evangelizing zeal or expansionist/imperial interests on their part in the first book. I guess killing the Sardaukar made them really like killing? Not to mention the logistics of a couple million dudes wiping out the galaxy (even if they are really good at...swordfighting?!)
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# ¿ Nov 29, 2021 06:15 |
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Idris Elba will be the Emperor.
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# ¿ Dec 6, 2021 22:18 |
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:I made a Thanos reference and the college kids at work were like “ I was in middle school when that came out you old!” Dear Lord, although this timeline is a bit of a stretch.
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# ¿ Feb 23, 2022 05:05 |
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Do shields transfer momentum? If a car hit you while you had shield would you get pancaked against the inside of the shield or what?
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2023 03:38 |
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2024 04:48 |
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I never really got why Paul couldn't stop the Jihad--wasn't the whole reason the Guild had to listen to him because he could blow up the Spice? Also that no one would flip out and fire their nukes, or just start lasgunning everything; there couldn't be that many Fremen and how are they going to galactic genocide with knives and dart guns?
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2023 23:03 |