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OK, without context I thought the dark version looked better. But you all apparently prefer the shrill yellow nightmare world on the left??
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feedmyleg posted:Rather than (just) dunking on you, I'll say this: it's not (just) an issue of taste. Ah thanks, that makes sense. Too bad all that expressionistic evocation is wasted on me, the darker version evokes more emotion from me then the "good" one. That one leaves me cold. But then again, I never could understand all that art crap even back in school, and just used my writing skills to string stuff like what you wrote together for my essays, without really understanding or believing any of it. 
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Groovelord Neato posted:You don't notice the redone one looks like every other bland comic out there? I don't read many comics, and most of those are black and white. 
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Schwarzwald posted:You also needed to do meditation and yoga. I remember reading in a later Dune-novel that the first Mentat was trained by intelligent robots, so did Herbert change his mind later or was the message that Humans are so much better at being robots even robots agree?
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This entire discussion is confusing the hell out of me, because intelligent machines are a thing in Dune, not just a metaphor. Hell, in the end the seeker machines even show up, and the story finally ends when machines and humans join together. As far as I can see, this basically invalidates the entire thing of things like this: Fly Molo posted:The Butlerian Jihad was akin to the Cultural Revolution- a reaction against that process of consolidation and fossilization, in an attempt to pursue continuous change and revitalization. The books themselves say the exact opposite of this! 
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Do you present a Dune podcast I think it's on place 69 of my list of things to do in the future
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Nov 13, 2020 14:59
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Groovelord Neato posted:The son books aren't canon and the things you mention are a big reason that it's clear the son didn't understand his pa's work. Is there some kind of Council of SF that determined this? As far as I concerned, they're canon. And it's kind of weird to claim the son "didn't understand his work" when he was using notes from his father. But I guess as he was writing stuff you don't like, that must mean he is lying, right?
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Groovelord Neato posted:The notes don't exist. You realize by claiming something extraordinary, you also need extraordinary proof. So, where is your proof? Right now, this reads like pure-strained delusion to me. phasmid posted:ITT Getting gulled by a pair of hack writers because "they found some hidden notes!" Even funnier: Groovelord Neato thinking because he doesn't like something it must obviously mean it does not exist. That's a level of mental disfunction that's amazing! Do you think he will start or join a cult soon? 
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deoju posted:I'm going to the theater, but like a Monday 10 am showing, where it's me and 2 others 10 rows away. I'm planning to do something similar, including waiting till near the end of the theater run, to minimize the other-people-problem
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dr_rat posted:
I should warn you my old cat did exactly this, she really liked walking/jumping on my keyboard at the most inopportune moments to cause maximum embarassment on IRC and SA.
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phasmid posted:He's right. I'm glad whenever directors point this out. The only rebuttal from the mickey mouse club is "Well, then why come it make so much moneyzz>??" The obvious rebuttal to the rebuttal being of course, "for the same reason people eat McDonald's". Comfort food is comfort food. Fake edit: Dune, huh. I managed to catch the movie in theater today and man, I was impressed. And not in a B-Movie sense, either! The latest Star Wars movie basically turned imho into a great comedy at the end, so I can't really call it more than "fine". But Dune? Great from beginning to end. The only thing not great is now I have to sit and wait for years until the second part is out. No wait, two things are bad about the new Dune: 1.) Wait time for part 2 and 2.) This movie wrote a lot of checks and I'm really hoping the 2nd part can cash those checks in For a more granular review: I've seen the David Lynch movie multiple times (I just love Patrick Stewart, OK??!) and also the TV-series. The David Lynch movie was a bit much, but it has an odd charm which grows on you. The TV-series I found to be unbearable boring, I felt like I dropped into a deep coma when it started, and only awoke when the ordeal was finally over. The new movie on the other hand, is like the David Lynch version, but good: It doesn't try to just put the entire book into a blender and try to force it into a single movie, come hell and high water, and it still has the same odd charm of the Lynch-movie. I miss Patrick Stewart, but the rest was so good I kind of forgot about him as long as the movie kept going. My conclusion: In Germany, we have this saying that you need to try something three times, and only on the third try will it turn out good. After David Lynch's good first attempt, and the TV-series unholy mess, this third try finally turned out well. Good job, Villeneuve! Nice to see you can do more than winning car races! Go and see the movie now, if you haven't already. Also, don't drink a lot through the movie, or your bladder will hate you.
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Wizchine posted:Are these children, or man-childs? What a petty crew of philistines. children are smarter
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Sep 18, 2021 10:33
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Strom Cuzewon posted:It's because Villaneuve accused (some) Marvel movies of being cut-and-paste. I don't even understand what's the problem with those people, no-one is ranting about how great fast food chains are just because people complain about bad nutrition. But suddenly, with movies it's their identity at threat??? Who cares if your Marvel-movie is just a very expensive Troll 2, you can still enjoy it
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phasmid posted:A lot of them seem to see the movies as positive and affirming instead of just being money-grabs. My sister loves these movies (oddly when we were kids, she thought comics were dumb) and watches them with her kids and thinks they're just great. I don't even point out all the ugly poo poo in them because what's the point. They'll go "wow it's so powerful and moving" and when you laugh at them they'll say "hey let me enjoy my dumb popcorn movie." Always, never fails. I always felt that consuming media this way was bad for your mental health. At the end of the day, a movie is a dead thing. It being moving to you personally doesn't mean your entire identity should revolve around it. I would defend the new Dune to the death, but I would also just go play a video game when people on the internet get too annoying when arguing with me. Dune maybe a great movie and an important piece of art, but it's still a dead thing and not worthy of the love and devotion a living entity deserves. It's like the people who wanted to marry their Game Boy back in the day. It's a completely baffling brain malfunction, as far as I'm concerned
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Spylde posted:Just came back from seeing this. Echoing everyones thoughts. Movie was great. Ferguson was especially great. Can't wait for the next part. Re. Harkonnen pronunciation. I didn't know there was controversy here! The German dub just stayed exactly the same it always was. Gotta love our dumb ultra-conservative dubbing studios...
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Jewmanji posted:I just find it laughable the assumption that this world has city-sized starships capable of doing interstellar travel all without a single computer onboard. I don’t think that’s what Herbert intended. The world seems much more plausible to me if you have crude computers akin to what we had in the 20th century than no computers at all. Again, this doesn’t obviate the need for mentats and navigators etc If you go further back, you have stories with starships with "computers", that is, big rooms staffed with people doing calculations. Just a bunch of normal engineers, sitting there, pen in hand, writing out calculations. Is that better or worse than having no real machine computer?
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Kurzon posted:The duel felt so cliché. Paul runs into some Injuns in the desert, they think he's a pussy, so to earn their respect he must beat one of them in a duel. The duel is an execution. Thanks to his visions, Paul already knows he will kill the guy. Up to that point, he thought he could avoid the vision setting him on the path of becoming Space Hitler, but when Jamis just doesn't want to quit and threatens his mother, he gives in and becomes the killer with blood on his hand he saw in his visions. Quite poetic, really. Sometimes clichés are a good thing!
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pointsofdata posted:I might be wrong but I think in a vision Janis says something like "I will teach you the ways of the Fremen", which is technically true. I liked how it leant into the Greek epic prophecy style of vision. I know, right? Though the baron bathing in what looks like crude oil was almost a bit too much.
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Alan Smithee posted:When they cut open the door is that a different thing from a lasgun I don't know if this is a joke post but: -Things we have IRL: Stuff to burn through an armored door -Things we don't have IRL: Laser guns so the answer is probably yes
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Neo Rasa posted:While watching the movie I figured there was a [technobabble] way different ships would know like they get confirmation that the missile hit or whatever and it's just a given that that missile hitting that ship kills its shields or whatever. We assume a lot of them are after Gurney personally because it's a movie and he's a main-ish character so it didn't stand out to me as weird because of that. Personally, I'd also assume that there is a way to detect an active shield, considering how much energy those things must emit to do the things they're supposed to do. Fake edit: It also just dawned on me that the slow things can pierce shields -> fast things can't is neatly mirrored by the whole laser-thing: Low-energy sources of photons (like sunlight, or a lamp), don't trigger any ill effects because the shield doesn't absorb too many of them, due to the lower energy density. But something on the level of a weapons-grade laser triggers the shield and tries to absorb all those photons, all at once. Since photons don't have mass, whatever weird quantum-bullshit happens next is probably really bad. It's an interesting idea, even if energy shields in Dune basically work the opposite of most SF-franchises I know.
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