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MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Strom Cuzewon posted:

Also I really want an extended sequence of Kynes' mad visions in the desert, arguing with his dead dad about ecology.

That's probably my favourite scene in the books and I want it so bad.

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MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
In a post-Epstein world, the Baron makes sense to me.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Alhazred posted:

Jodorowsky's Dune also gave us the Metabarons:


It gave Incal which in turn gave us the Metabarons as one of many spinoffs Get your order of events right!

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Clipperton posted:

L'Incal rules so loving hard

just don't get the recolored version

But... it was already in color?

(My father, who used to run a comic book store in Montreal before I was born, has the entire original run of Incal, as well as a bunch of other Moebius greats like Major Fatal and Sur l'Étoile)

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
What... the... gently caress...

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
I'd rather have Jodo as Kynes' father in the desert hallucination sequence.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Is there a good Dune or Dune-like Tabletop RPG?

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Neo Rasa posted:

You picked a great time to ask this question!

There's the classic Avalon Hill board game from the 70s. You used to have to drop $500 on Ebay to get it but now it's back in print and GF9 was even able to license the original artwork too:
https://www.flamesofwar.com/gf9online_store.aspx?CategoryID=13814%20


An official tabletop RPG was announced for a little over a year ago, it's meant to drop a little before the movie releases:

https://www.modiphius.com/dune.html Their past work is pretty solid and they basically mostly do tabletop RPG books from licensed properties.



There are also various unofficial and (and even a few semi-official copyright hell) ones from years ago you might want to poke around into:

https://rpggeek.com/rpgitem/45587/dune-chronicles-imperium
http://squaremans.com/the-dune-rpg/
https://rpg.phillipsuk.org/doku.php/dune:start

I know a guy who has the Dune boardgame, I'll see if I can get to play it.

I have the Metabarons rpg, but it's the old WEG d6 system. :shrug:

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

galagazombie posted:

Dune is literally "MUSLIMS. IN. SPAAACE!!!" would it have killed them to at least try to give things a bit of mid-east flair? Make the Fremen dress like Bedoins. The Sarduakar should be High Tech Jannisaries. Give the nobility colorful Turbans and poo poo. Instead everyone looks like their from the same generic unadorned gray plastic world all Hollywood Sci-Fi for the past 15 years has been. That Atreides armor is terrible.

Freme are Zensunni, they should have some japanese aesthetics as well.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
I seriously love Liet Kynes.

Although I do still wish to see Jodo as the insane father vision.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
It's a bad movie but I have a soft spot for Dead or Alive because of the dad trying to be supportive of his daugther while beating the crap out of her.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
For that kind of stuff you want Jodo with the Imperoratriz and the Perfect Androgyne.

Or maybe you don't because it trnasofrms something normal into something mystical.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
C H A O S D U N C

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Yeah, in the books they're Zensunni, a syncretism of existing religion into something new in the far future.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Messiah is as good and important as the original: it's basically the second half. The rest I can take or leave.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Maybe WB are thinking long-term with Dune as a series with a cult following they can milk for years instead of a big box office.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Alien: Covenant is def better than the garbage that is Alien Resurrection.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
The Whedon script for Resurrection is so loving bad.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Prometheus re-used the old concept art for the Harkonnen's planet from Jodorowsky's Dune.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

phasmid posted:

The Jihad was against "machine thinking", not robot armies.

In effect, technocrats.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
I've gained some grudging respect for KJA after learning how he writes his books. He just goes on a walk in the wilderness, dictating whatever passes through his brain. And then he gets paid for it.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Rabban's a Beast, not a moron.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

You need the music with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHSIsH63c0Y

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
I like how the Giger design for Giedi Prime were reused in Prometheus.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
I saw DUNC last week and I read the threade and I'm all Dune'ing these days.

DUNC.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

Isn't the Kwizats Haderachs just the guy that can have all the male and female memories? Wasn't that the actual point of the thousands of years of breeding and all the other powers are fake/incidental?

Like the mothers could see genetic history all back through all their female ancestors but having male memories was too spooky, so they need to make a special male vessel that that could handle all the male memories without going crazy AND get the female memories, then they would have twice as much memories and presumably be the smartest.

Thousands of eyars of breeding to create a Non-Binary Bene Gesserit.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Ravel posted:

With regards to the climax of the novel, my suspicion from interviews with Herbert is that the novel was getting too long for what a publisher would accept in 1965, and large elements of the consequences of the jihad were pushed to Messiah. I'm sure much of what would have been the original follow-up changed after Dune's release though.

Dune Messiah is really just the third half of Dune.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
The existence of Zensunni implies the existence of rivals Zenshia.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

The United States posted:

This is what Frank Herbert's failson thought too

And I'm sure he handled it in a respectful and insightful way.

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MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

sebmojo posted:

Dreams are messages from the get hosed, peons, this is a film about silent stares

Dreams are actually a message from the eyar one nine nine nine. This is happening right now.

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