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moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





I liked the trailer a lot!

Yadoppsi posted:

It actually seems like they are backing away from alot of the Islamic elements of the book. I hope its just a misdirect for the trailers and sneak peaks.

I noticed the trailer line was a crusade is coming, but remember it as a jihad in the book. That might actually resonate better in 2020, since Americans generally believe that terrible religious wars are things other people do.

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moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





Yeah the idea is that the holy war is supposedly waged in Atrades' interests but against their will.

Paul's describing an "us" problem, not "the foreigners" as jihad would read in 2020.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





I expect that the first movie would end with Beast Rabban getting replaced with Feyd, since it'll look like a victory but then oops no.

Plus that comes around the two years when Paul goes into hiding with the Fremen, so you kind of get the Empire Strikes Back vibe that there's a lot more work to do.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





It's jarring that "Idaho" would have any meaning 15,000 years from now, since it barely has any today.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





In its defense, it'll probably be a popular seafront coastal state within 100 years.

:smith:

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





Davros1 posted:

No Sandworm ... Yet

It's a build a figure. Collect all 128 and make a sandworm the size of your apartment!

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





Where are you seeing Brian's name in this?

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





Oh poo poo, I see what you're looking at. No, that's just bad sentence structure - the cover features a scene from the film.

It's confusing because the tweet reads like this printing of Dune contains a new scene (but they'd have to credit that.)

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





T UU U N C

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





They're banking on 2020 being a better place in three months with the energy of a mark losing three card monte for six hours straight

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





MonsieurChoc posted:

Maybe WB are thinking long-term with Dune as a series with a cult following they can milk for years instead of a big box office.

I think this is the case, studios have been hunting for the next legacy franchise ever since Marvel went big.

It does seem to be roughly coloring in the same lines as Marvel's success, in that it's a big budget all-star adaptation that stays faithful to the source material. That might mean less now that it's the norm these days.

They may also be looking to siphon off some of the Star Wars money now that that franchise has hit oversaturation.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





Do format codes work in thread titles?

It might be nice to have D U N C.

Or maybe D U N €, it looks less dungy.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





I think it's the lighting - the sculpts look much closer to the actors when there are shadows.

Although that double chin on toy Bautista is really unsettling.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





I don't think he has for a while, but I haven't kept up with action figures.

Here's a better picture of that chin I was talking about :

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





Pumpkin Spice Melatte

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





Oh no. I hope this won't mess up the second movie.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





Am I correctly assuming they didn't film the first and second parts concurrently?

Releasing half a book as a movie is always risky, but this might be the first franchise to do that with the first book. (Unless you count The Hobbit.)

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





Just wait 10,000 years and watch the real thing

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





The problem with a Tenet joke is that it requires both Americans who saw it to be in the same thread.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





Billy Zane as Feyd would be really hard not to love.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





My understanding is that the idea goes as far back to the Sherlock Holmes mysteries.

I mean, also the bible, but yeah.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





Theaters are dying, and "people must not like Dune" sounds better than "capitalism is inadequate in a crisis" to the executives who'll decide to axe Dune part 2.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





It really depends on COVID being a nonissue in Q4.

IF that happens, a space politics nerd movie sequel is a lower tier thing to be happy about.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





Checkmate, nerds - Can't have a hero's journey without a hero.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





Was that something else the Matrix stole?

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





sigher posted:

Outside of that there are no character arcs, everyone is the same as they were at the beginning except the dead characters who's deaths had no impact or bearing on anything.

Paul Verhoeven's Dune would probably be more overt about the Bene Gesserit's dumb poo poo but I love that posts like this exist and we get to read them.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





BlankSystemDaemon posted:

This isn't part of the movie so I'm not sure it counts as a spoiler:
The Missionaria Protectiva is planted by the Bene Gesserit on thousands of planets, to help protect Bene Gesserit sisters.
On Arrakis, it mixed with the existing religion, and took on a strange shape that happened to fit well enough for Jessica and Paul to fit into.

Isn't the existing religion on Arrakis just the BG long-game in an accidentally over-successful form? They pull that poo poo on every world, but on the planet with airborne precognition dust it ends up extra competent.


sponges posted:

Aesthetic and cinematography are important parts of a film. Maybe more than anything else.

bR2049 owned

Aesthetic and cinematography help a film, but what element is most important varies from film to film.

If the best thing about a film is its visuals, its longevity will be limited to only people who especially care about those things. Coppola's Dracula is maybe a good example of something that looked amazing but failed to come together as a whole.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





I was surprised that the spider gimp didn't turn out to be Mrs Yueh.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





Randalor posted:

Because that might actually show that the Harkonnans are actually cruel rather than us just being told that they're cruel? And it would fit in with Yueh's comment about how they threatened to take her apart ("and then put her back together in New and Interesting ways" would be a good addition to that)

It was also reinforce the notion that the Harkonnans sort of keep their word.

"Here's your wife, she's a spider now" would also foreshadow dumping Paul and Jessica in the desert because look we didn't kill them.

Just a missed opportunity I guess.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





Pedro De Heredia posted:

We are shown the Harkonnens are cruel when they are shown murdering hundreds of people, including unarmed prisoners. Did you miss that part of the movie or something?

That's just war movie bad guy violence, though. We have the book to establish the Harkonnens' cruelty-is-art depravity and some rapey dialogue, but Dunc generally portrays them as run of the mill villains.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

E: That is, in 2021 they're just baseline movie villains.

Turning Yueh's wife into a spider (then feeding him to her) to satisfy their reunification end of the deal (or body-horroring them together into a Cronenberg nightmare) would be more keeping with the expected Harkonnen excess.

moths fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Oct 25, 2021

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





That they'd be portrayed in the spirit of the book rather than the letter? Yes.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





They didn't even get bug juice boxes, they all just seemed cranky and tired.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





I went back to the book, and Yueh's wife had been kept in pain amplifiers- which was how the Harkonnens broke his imperial conditioning.

So yeah, they kept her in the box until she died. Here they had just dispassionately killed her at some point.

In the film, we only see one person suffering for the Harkonnens' pleasure, and it's the spider pet. I guess that's where I drew the connection.

Maybe connecting those dots means I watch too much horror, but it seems weirder to me that they didn't.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





I'd say it's incomplete in that it's half of the first part of a story.

The film explicitly tells you this at the end. ("It's just the beginning" or words to that effect.)

It's silly to hold that against the picture, though.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





That's fair, it's been a while and I may have misremembered. They certainly enjoyed running Yueh's emotions through a cheese grater, regardless.

Has the Benne Gesserit HBO series not been confirmed?

moths fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Oct 25, 2021

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





GORDON posted:

Simple mass murder isn't enough to illustrate someone is bad. Hell, a beheading is quick and painless. They are practically kind.

House Harkonnen is going to be the next Shane from TWD.

"They're not villains, they're just doing what strong men need to do in hard times."

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





The Hobbit.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





I've seen exactly zero of either, which is uncommonly welcome.

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moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.





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