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CLAM DOWN posted:Yup, I didn't learn this until relatively recently, and from SA. It doesn't have the same connotations/meanings elsewhere, but good to know because SA is very much America-centric (also Americans in general are extremely loud lol) I saw Wayne Brady at Casino Rama several years back, up here in Canuckistan. He asked the audience for a type of fruit, a young woman yells out 'watermelon.' Wayne, of course, goes on a very hilarious rant. After the show, the young woman was talking to a manager, very upset that she was being painted as a racist. She was wearing a watermelon print dress, it was summer, therefore she was talking about watermelons. She didn't realize, until after the fact, that she was inadvertently running into American cultural stereotypes about Black people and watermelons. Hell, I've seem Americans go crazy on mailing lists and forums when Canadians refer to Black people as, well, Black people. And don't get me started on the time I watched a German get absolutely pilloried for innocently making a direct translation of one German term for the boogeyman into English....
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CLAM DOWN posted:sure beats the aatrek era lmao lmbo
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TheCenturion posted:And don't get me started on the time I watched a German get absolutely pilloried for innocently making a direct translation of one German term for the boogeyman into English.... Well?
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Ooof, about ten years ago there was an ad: KFC Australia sponsor the cricket, and they made a seemingly innocent ad for Aussie TV for an upcoming big match which depicted an Aussie getting seated in the opposition section but calming them down and making friends by sharing some KFC. Perfectly regular generic ad. But the upcoming match was against the West Indies, and it got uploaded and seen by Americans and to them it just looks like an ad of a white person giving a bunch of black people friend chicken to win them over, and apparently they have a stereotype thing about black people and fried chicken that pretty much nobody in Australia, including the local marketing teams, was aware of but now the ad's on the internet and it caused a whole fuss and KFC Australia had to pull the ad and issue an apology for the implications to Americans.
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TheCenturion posted:I saw Wayne Brady at Casino Rama several years back, up here in Canuckistan. Yeah, Americans are unhinged and need to be reminded that the world doesn't revolve around them. That said, I do try to learn more about their weird language things so I don't randomly offend someone on SA.
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CLAM DOWN posted:Yeah, Americans are unhinged and WHAT HOW DARE YOU 
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MikeJF posted:Ooof, about ten years ago there was an ad: KFC Australia sponsor the cricket, and they made a seemingly innocent ad for Aussie TV for an upcoming big match which depicted an Aussie getting seated in the opposition section but calming them down and making friends by sharing some KFC. Perfectly regular generic ad. But the upcoming match was against the West Indies, and it got uploaded and seen by Americans and to them it just looks like an ad of a white person giving a bunch of black people friend chicken to win them over, and apparently they have a stereotype thing about black people and fried chicken that pretty much nobody in Australia, including the local marketing teams, was aware of but now the ad's on the internet and it caused a whole fuss and KFC Australia had to pull the ad and issue an apology for the implications to Americans. You should see the video of Harry Connick Jr. as a guest judge on an Australian variety program. He did not react well to the act doing a Jackson 5 song in full blackface.
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zoux posted:You should see the video of Harry Connick Jr. as a guest judge on an Australian variety program. He did not react well to the act doing a Jackson 5 song in full blackface. I do remember that (and to be honest in that particular scenario that really should've been able to be weeded out by the producers anyway). MikeJF fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Aug 8, 2022 |
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So how about those Star Treks.
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luv 2 star trek e: except for Picard, gently caress that show
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zoux posted:You should see the video of Harry Connick Jr. as a guest judge on an Australian variety program. He did not react well to the act doing a Jackson 5 song in full blackface. uh...I can't really seeing a circumstance in any anglo country where this is ok.
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zoux posted:Well? Der Schwartze Mann. So the guy said “ok ok I’m wrong, I’m the Black Man, so shoot me.” What he was trying to say was “ok ok I’m the boogeyman, so shoot me.”
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CLAM DOWN posted:so just FYI the word "uppity" being racist seems to be a US thing. We are not taught that in Canada and even have well known childhood books such as: Also just a quick sidebar to the other part of the conversation, but did they not have Mr. Men books in the US? Is this a unique gift that only exists in the childrens' sections of Canadian libraries alone?
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Brawnfire posted:On a rewatch you'd already know they make some depth out of the character, instead of dreading the possibility she was one-note wacky It's this, and it goes for the whole series too.
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nine-gear crow posted:Also just a quick sidebar to the other part of the conversation, but did they not have Mr. Men books in the US? Is this a unique gift that only exists in the childrens' sections of Canadian libraries alone? We had them in Australia, and they started in England, so at the very least they're a commonwealth thing, I think.
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nine-gear crow posted:Also just a quick sidebar to the other part of the conversation, but did they not have Mr. Men books in the US? Is this a unique gift that only exists in the childrens' sections of Canadian libraries alone? Nah we had em
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I've never heard of them but I'm from the midwest.
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MikeJF posted:So how about those Star Treks. To go on about LD some more, I find the voice acting and animation really high quality. There are specific scenes I have rewound because of how smooth or detailed they are.
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MikeJF posted:So how about those Star Treks. there are no TRUE star treks
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Mooseontheloose posted:Lower Decks also gets the spirit of Riker's character and his speech about how he'd rather just be doing science too is kinda sweet. The best part about the cameos is that all of them are completely true to the characters, only cranked up to 11 in the most LD way possible. 
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Arglebargle III posted:there are no TRUE star treks The only good Star Trek is my Star Trek.
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nine-gear crow posted:The only good Star Trek is my Star Trek. Your Star Trek SUCKS
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Whoa, whoa, slow your roll there everybody's Star Trek sucks
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Are y'all making a "no true scotty" argument?
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The only good Star Treks are: - Season 5 of Enterprise - The first three episodes of both seasons of Picard - The clip of Rom reading Marx out loud - Any time Grudge is on screen - Tsunkatse
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blastron posted:- The first three episodes of both seasons of Picard Someone’s feeling generous
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blastron posted:The only good Star Treks are: Enterprise deserved to get canceled
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Someone’s feeling generous Those first two and a half episodes of Picard Season 2 were pretty good. Shame about the rest of it.
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hannibal posted:To go on about LD some more, I find the voice acting and animation really high quality. There are specific scenes I have rewound because of how smooth or detailed they are. I'm thinking of "that scene" in the last episode of season 1, where the USS Solvang goes from making jokes about that new-ship smell and leaving the plastic on the consoles to suddenly being reduced to a smear of subspace colors. It's the kind of sudden tonal shift that I really appreciate when it's done well, "poo poo just got real". It's also a stunningly beautiful effects shot that's one of the best of all of modern Trek. Some of you haven't watched it, so I'll spoil that as a courtesy, but gently caress you, it's a good show, watch it.
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nine-gear crow posted:Those first two and a half episodes of Picard Season 2 were pretty good. Shame about the rest of it. Really gotta disagree, I’m retrospect the show was downhill the second they got into the Confederation stuff. Skull Dukat was the single good thing in those episodes.
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mllaneza posted:I'm thinking of "that scene" in the last episode of season 1, where the USS Solvang goes from making jokes about that new-ship smell and leaving the plastic on the consoles to suddenly being reduced to a smear of subspace colors. It's the kind of sudden tonal shift that I really appreciate when it's done well, "poo poo just got real". It's also a stunningly beautiful effects shot that's one of the best of all of modern Trek. Yeah, it was a pretty shocking moment given how much everything is played for laughs, and I dug that Captain Freeman ends up in a similar situation later but immediately grasps that they'll destroy the ship if they try to warp away.
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LDS has had stronger emotional beats and better pathos than SNW. 
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My Second Re-Reg posted:LDS has had stronger emotional beats and better pathos than SNW. SNW sustained a higher quality from the start and also didn't have irony and cartoon humour to use as a crutch I like both, it just took me a few episodes to warm to LDS because I thought it was just going to be wAcKy bullshit whereas SNW got me right from the start
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Jerusalem posted:Did you guys already know about the Black Mountain and just didn't tell me? That's why I'm not sweating how they did Hemmer dirty.
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some kinda jackal posted:That's why I'm not sweating how they did Hemmer dirty. I just hope he doesn't suffer any flashbacks!
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Jerusalem posted:I just hope he doesn't suffer any flashbacks! FIGHTING FASCISM IS A FULL TIME JOB!
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:SNW sustained a higher quality from the start and also didn't have irony and cartoon humour to use as a crutch 100% same, and I'm looking forward to what SNW accomplishes past season one (which was already a drat good season by most metrics). But while I think both shows have had some wobbly writing from time to time, SNW has tried to hit me while LDS actually did.
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I think the burden isn't on LDS to tell a serious story, which gives it a lot more freedom to be exactly what it wants to be. Not to say comedy writing isn't difficult in its own way, it's just as complicated to get it right. But (imo) SNW wants to differentiate itself from Disco by being both lighthearted and still tell a compelling story which gives the writers a bit more to balance. I'm going to be somewhat flippant, but before LDS aired I was ready for a family guy style HEY CMDR LOIS, REMEMBER THE TIME WHEN Q TRANSPORTED US TO ANCIENT EGYPT simplistic fanservice factory (and I say that in the kindest way possible, I was actually looking forward to just pure fanservice nonsense), and I got way more than I expected in WAY higher quality. e: I articulated that first point very poorly, hopefully you guys get what I mean and not what I actually wrote, on re-reading the post 
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some kinda jackal posted:I'm going to be somewhat flippant, but before LDS aired I was ready for a family guy style HEY CMDR LOIS, REMEMBER THE TIME WHEN Q TRANSPORTED US TO ANCIENT EGYPT simplistic fanservice factory It's a testiment to LDS that you got exactly that, and it was amazing. Also; "Get out of here Q! No! We are done with random stuff today! We're not dealing with any of your Q bullshit!"
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