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Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
The funny thing is how primed I was for that game to be good. I remember unlocking the first alien machine thingy and thinking "oh man, I can't wait to get back to the surface and see how my actions have changed the world." Oh, not at all? It's the same lovely desert but it's just habital now?

Tell, don't show.

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Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus
Yeah, even after ME3 I was primed for MEA (I actually didn't hate the ending like a lot of people, it was really divisive) and lo what a loving turd that turned out to be.

ME1 was about as close to a good Star Trek game as I can possibly imagine, maybe tone down the combat and offer more opportunities for diplomatic solutions, base your Paragon/Renegade/Etc archetypes on Picard/Kirk/Sisko/Janeway. Good lord I get the heebie jeebies just thinking about how good that Trek game could possibly be.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
There's also a credible leak about a Mass Effect remaster, which is an obvious license to print money and they better not gently caress it up too bad

SimonChris
Apr 24, 2008

The Baron's daughter is missing, and you are the man to find her. No problem. With your inexhaustible arsenal of hard-boiled similes, there is nothing you can't handle.
Grimey Drawer

FlamingLiberal posted:

I just remembered that we see all of these Federation scientists on the Borg Cube but they just magically aren't on it when everything goes to poo poo

Also, why is the creepy sister suddenly in charge of all the Romulans on the cube? Where are the Romulan officers running the Artifact project? Are they just fine with this crazy woman destroying their project and murdering all the XBs?

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


You could have made an entire series set on a slowly reclaimed Borg cube. The tension between the Romulan overseers and the Federation scientists, the mystery of the mad Romulan XB that Knows Weird Stuff, Hugh's struggle with being back in a borg environment, the motives of the Secret Romulan organisation... there's a lot there!

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

precision posted:

There's also a credible leak about a Mass Effect remaster, which is an obvious license to print money and they better not gently caress it up too bad

Yeah I've heard that too, but I would hope there would be a separate team or a third party working on a remaster, with whatever passes for an a team at modern Bioware working on a proper sequel. Or given Bioware's most recent output, vice versa.

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

You could have made an entire series set on a slowly reclaimed Borg cube. The tension between the Romulan overseers and the Federation scientists, the mystery of the mad Romulan XB that Knows Weird Stuff, Hugh's struggle with being back in a borg environment, the motives of the Secret Romulan organisation... there's a lot there!

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men
I was thinking it might be fun to include Curzon Dax on the Pike show, he seemed like a cool guy. Then I pictured some modern trek version where he’s just a drunk gambler pinching waitress rear end all day with zero redeeming qualities who only ever seems to remember or mention his past lives when the plot calls for a quick cheap solution. Like there’s a transporter malfunction and someone is like “who the hell here would know how to repair this old thing? And Curzon is all “Well actually Tobin...”, or they’re stuck in a pit of raptors and there just so happens to be some uneven bars overhead so here comes Emony to do some flips and poo poo over them.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Still slightly more interesting than Raffi.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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Martytoof posted:

Still slightly more interesting than Raffi.

Raffi would be interesting if I were watching a 1980s police procedural and she were a sympathetic habitual drug user that the cops go to for the skinny on the dope slingers

nil.
Nov 11, 2012


Brawnfire posted:

Raffi would be interesting if I were watching a 1980s police procedural and she were a sympathetic habitual drug user that the cops go to for the skinny on the dope slingers

Raffi as Bubbles then?

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

precision posted:

There's also a credible leak about a Mass Effect remaster, which is an obvious license to print money and they better not gently caress it up too bad

My one hope is they get Earth round the right way in ME1.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

CubanMissile posted:

I was thinking it might be fun to include Curzon Dax on the Pike show, he seemed like a cool guy. Then I pictured some modern trek version where he’s just a drunk gambler pinching waitress rear end all day with zero redeeming qualities who only ever seems to remember or mention his past lives when the plot calls for a quick cheap solution. Like there’s a transporter malfunction and someone is like “who the hell here would know how to repair this old thing? And Curzon is all “Well actually Tobin...”, or they’re stuck in a pit of raptors and there just so happens to be some uneven bars overhead so here comes Emony to do some flips and poo poo over them.

Assuming the Pike show takes place around the same time as Disco, then Dax won't be Curzon for another thirty years. At this point the host would be either Emony or Audrid.

Zaroff
Nov 10, 2009

Nothing in the world can stop me now!

Powered Descent posted:

At this point the host would be either Emony or Audrid.

Did they reference McCoys age when he hosed Dax? I'm sure they'd be tempted to include that...

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Of course they did;-)

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Zaroff posted:

Did they reference McCoys age when he hosed Dax? I'm sure they'd be tempted to include that...

He was at Ole Miss* at the time, I think?








*ole miss sucks, geaux tigers

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice

CubanMissile posted:

I was thinking it might be fun to include Curzon Dax on the Pike show, he seemed like a cool guy. Then I pictured some modern trek version where he’s just a drunk gambler pinching waitress rear end all day with zero redeeming qualities who only ever seems to remember or mention his past lives when the plot calls for a quick cheap solution.

From DS9, it sounds like that''s what Curzon was like.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
Yeah, Curzon was a horny old man who fell in love with the much younger Jadzia when she was a student and then denied her entry into the symbiont program just because he didn’t want to be tempted. He was a prick.

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men
Ok, but at least he wouldn’t be brooding in a dark room with a bottle every day like most of Picard’s crew.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
So now I've seen two episodes of Discovery, the first and (to date) last. And yyyyeah, I don't think I'll be bothering to fill in the gaps.

Things I liked (or that at least made an impression):
Pike
Saru
Michelle Yeoh
Waspishly sarcastic admiral lady
The tumbling fight scene when the gravity malfunctioned
The big closeup on the actual, literal rocks that came from an exploding console :laffo:

Things I didn't:
Everything being rushed and frenetic for no particular reason
The Michael Bay "gently caress the frame" approach to shooting, editing and VFX
The feeling that everything is way more advanced than it should be for a TOS prequel (especially the Enterprise)
Starships being fighter carriers
"Now let's never speak of Discovery again"
Burnham - the main character - was just kind of... there.

The biggest question I was left with was: why didn't they build the entire Enterprise out of whatever they used to make the blast doors? Because Pike was standing ten feet from a multi-megaton antimatter explosion and it didn't even mess up his Keir Starmer hair-sweep. :v:

Pike and co made me interested in the idea of Strange New Worlds, but knowing the same people are behind it... maybe not.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



There is so much wrong with the torpedo detonation scene in the S2 finale i wouldn’t know where to begin

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

You could have made an entire series set on a slowly reclaimed Borg cube. The tension between the Romulan overseers and the Federation scientists, the mystery of the mad Romulan XB that Knows Weird Stuff, Hugh's struggle with being back in a borg environment, the motives of the Secret Romulan organisation... there's a lot there!

There was 6 good shows in Picard and it danced around loving all of them

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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apatheticman posted:

There was 6 good shows in Picard and it danced around loving all of them

It's as if they did that thing where you tease several overdone plotlines then do something original and interesting--except reversed.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

You could have made an entire series set on a slowly reclaimed Borg cube. The tension between the Romulan overseers and the Federation scientists, the mystery of the mad Romulan XB that Knows Weird Stuff, Hugh's struggle with being back in a borg environment, the motives of the Secret Romulan organisation... there's a lot there!

The setting definitely upstaged the plot. Soji should have just been a junior officer on a science vessel or something.

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

apatheticman posted:

There was 6 good shows in Picard and it danced around loving all of them

It's like they were writing for a road trip movie or road trip season of an episodic TV series, except that doesn't work when you create the expectation every episode will relate to the main plot. As a story element, they used the Borg cube like a haunted castle where the Mystery Machine broke down overnight on the way to find an ancient planispheric disk McGuffin in the season finale

There are probably more interesting stops in a lot of road trip TV shows and movies I could've used instead there

Toy Story: Pizza Planet
Star Wars: Mos Eisley

that kind of thing

galenanorth fucked around with this message at 05:08 on May 24, 2020

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

You could have made an entire series set on a slowly reclaimed Borg cube. The tension between the Romulan overseers and the Federation scientists, the mystery of the mad Romulan XB that Knows Weird Stuff, Hugh's struggle with being back in a borg environment, the motives of the Secret Romulan organisation... there's a lot there!
Wait wait wait, how do we fit in ONE THOUSAND Federation ships doing battle with ONE THOUSAND Romulan ships in an incomprehensible assault on the eyes that ultimately had no stakes or effect on the plot whatsoever?

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

Cugel the Clever posted:

Wait wait wait, how do we fit in ONE THOUSAND Federation ships doing battle with ONE THOUSAND Romulan ships in an incomprehensible assault on the eyes that ultimately had no stakes or effect on the plot whatsoever?
Pshaw, one thousand ships? What is this, a lullaby show for babies? Come on, guy, if you want this to be an action show, you're going to need ONE MILLION ships on each side, three sides, and a threat to the galaxy that is only introduced 5 minutes before it is resolved.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPKjrTKoe2A&t=147s

Astroman
Apr 8, 2001


Cugel the Clever posted:

Pshaw, one thousand ships? What is this, a lullaby show for babies? Come on, guy, if you want this to be an action show, you're going to need ONE MILLION ships on each side,

Or at least a few hundred thousand. Also set it to classical music.

https://youtu.be/ZG-NvzAAJhw

SimonChris
Apr 24, 2008

The Baron's daughter is missing, and you are the man to find her. No problem. With your inexhaustible arsenal of hard-boiled similes, there is nothing you can't handle.
Grimey Drawer

FuturePastNow posted:

Content:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzDIACP8nf8

Someone took the TNG porno (yes, there was a TNG porno) and edited out all the porn to turn it into a plain old Star Trek episode.

From the RedLetterMedia thread. This is unironically better than most modern Star Trek. They should get this guy to play Picard instead of Patrick Stewart.

SimonChris fucked around with this message at 10:13 on May 24, 2020

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


SimonChris posted:

From the RedLetterMedia thread. This is unironically better than most modern Star Trek. They should get this guy to play Picard instead of Patrick Stewart.

the dude who plays picard is an actual picard imitator and not a pornstar and he was too embarassed to bone so he only did the bj scene.

thats some trivia for ya. also lol its a better tng ep than like 60% of the real ones

Retrowave Joe
Jul 20, 2001

Holy poo poo you weren't kidding. Porn-level production values aside, that was a decent season 7 episode.

They even included the classic "Worf getting clowned on" moment

Retrowave Joe fucked around with this message at 14:30 on May 24, 2020

Hipster_Doofus
Dec 20, 2003

Lovin' every minute of it.
The places where the edits occurred are so obvious and totally hilarious.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Hipster_Doofus posted:

The places where the edits occurred are so obvious and totally hilarious.

"I didn't want to cancel our date"

LinkesAuge
Sep 7, 2011

Ramadu posted:

the dude who plays picard is an actual picard imitator and not a pornstar and he was too embarassed to bone so he only did the bj scene.


Picard to the core, what a method actor.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
Can't wait til Kurtzman and Goldsman write a Q story and turn it into a dour melodrama.

Though if Q has to be brought in ala Mudd, who be a great re-cast? Other than just continuing to use John de Lancie.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Keegan de Lancie should be the obvious choice here.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

feedmyleg posted:

Can't wait til Kurtzman and Goldsman write a Q story and turn it into a dour melodrama.

Though if Q has to be brought in ala Mudd, who be a great re-cast? Other than just continuing to use John de Lancie.

Neil Patrick Harris

Hipster_Doofus
Dec 20, 2003

Lovin' every minute of it.

LinkesAuge posted:

Picard to the core, what a method actor.

Holy poo poo that is really funny and meta-y.

Martytoof posted:

Keegan de Lancie should be the obvious choice here.

Absofuckinglutely. Assuming he still has decent acting chops. Has he been active at all?

precision posted:

Neil Patrick Harris

This is also acceptable.


Also:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tepVDyAUmc

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feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

Hipster_Doofus posted:

Absofuckinglutely. Assuming he still has decent acting chops. Has he been active at all?

Sounds like he works for the UN and has no interest in acting from some interview I found.

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