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Thaddius the Large
Jul 5, 2006

It's in the five-hole!

Waffleman_ posted:

Paramount executives say "But we already have M'benga"

But it’d be a chance to reduce the role of a black man, that’s gotta interest the new leadership

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Falcorum
Oct 21, 2010

FlamingLiberal posted:

What I'm not clear on is whether they are still going to make that movie which is a Trek prequel set even before Enterprise. It was being 'fast tracked' before the ownership change. I can't find any updates from this year so I'm assuming that was quietly shelved.

It's definitely been a long time

As for an actual movie, some more Lower Decks would be great, but I just don't see Paramount doing anything good for the foreseeable future

Croatoan
Jun 24, 2005

I am inevitable.
ROBBLE GROBBLE
Since Larry's nepo baby took over I fully expect Star Trek to poo poo the bed and make non-woke Star Trek. Maybe that Ferengi TV show was a back door pilot?

A Very Sexy Baby
Sep 25, 2007

I can't help it if men are attracted to me.

Waffleman_ posted:

Paramount executives say "But we already have M'benga"

:drat:

Seemlar
Jun 17, 2002

skasion posted:

Both Kirk and Spock are way out of character for most of those movies, but Pine is fun to watch at least. Quinto is just a drag

SNW’s take on the characters is also weird on occasion but still feels like they at least knew where they were trying to start from. Peck is vastly better than Quinto but I actually think Wesley’s Kirk is probably better than Pine’s. Much more understated performance but it works better for small screen at least.

For me Pine's Kirk is similar in just feeling like a disconnected alt-universe character more than he ever feels like Kirk. They lean into some Shatner-isms a couple of times but more than anything that just reinforces that caricature is really not what I'm after, the SNW characters capture the spirit far better even when doing things that don't necessarily line up with the original stories

Kelvinverse really just kind of feels like something that can be left behind and relegated to Memory Alpha trivia at this point

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY
Perhaps if we had Chris Pine and the rest of his crew play the "Night Shift" aboard the Enterprise-D? That would allow the reuse of those expensive Picard sets, and could allow a more "adult", Late Nite (read: boob exposed) experience. Patrick Stewart could be given the use of an off-road vehicle. Not for the film, mind you, just to keep him occupied and away from the producers and scriptwriters.

We could call it... "NIGHT CREW"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTnXy23yXgU

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016
Gonna need some "DELTA SHIFT IS A MESS" memes stat

Knormal
Nov 11, 2001

Oh jeez, that's embarrassing.

Well the important thing is I was right about Star Trek.

The Chairman posted:

The way it was described, it sounded like it would be immediately after Enterprise season 4, the period just prior to the Federation's founding, but it's also been a full year since anything was last announced about it so I doubt it's ever going to see the light of day anyway
The stuff I read said it was set way before Enterprise:

https://trekmovie.com/2024/05/21/x-men-producer-simon-kinberg-reportedly-in-talks-to-oversee-star-trek-feature-films/

quote:

The project is said to be set decades before the events of the 2009 movie that was directed J.J. Abrams, likely around modern times. It is said to involve the creation of the Starfleet and humankind’s first contact with alien life.

But then there have been so many half-baked movie ideas floating around and it was in such early pre-production who knows what it would have ended up being. My theory behind it is that some executive just said to make a movie they could slap the Star Trek name on but not have to spend a lot of money on sets and special effects, giving us Modern Earth Trek.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

we'll get there sooner or later




Croatoan posted:

Since Larry's nepo baby took over I fully expect Star Trek to poo poo the bed and make non-woke Star Trek. Maybe that Ferengi TV show was a back door pilot?
Pog and Dar?

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003
Beyond is the only good JJTrek movie but that its not the actors fault.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005

One thing I remember about Beyond was Simon Pegg being annoyed on social media because they did a commercial right before release that spoiled a major plot point.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




muscles like this! posted:

One thing I remember about Beyond was Simon Pegg being annoyed on social media because they did a commercial right before release that spoiled a major plot point.

He was also annoyed by the first trailer being absolutely awful and reinforcing initial fears that this was going to be Justin Lin's Fast and the Furious In Space. I don't think there was a single shot that didn't have the characters wildly jumping or flinging or punching or explosions or something. IIRC Pegg literally said something like "okay, trek fans, trust me, there's more to it than that, okay? I put in actual Star Trek"

But then of course it's pretty well-established how completely and utterly Paramount hosed the marketing of Beyond.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Nov 8, 2025

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle





This Pegg guy sounds pretty irritable.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
You'd be irritable too if you just wanted to get a pint and the world turned into Zombies.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

♪ Come with me, and you'll be, in a world of pure imagination. ♪

Facebook Aunt posted:

This Pegg guy sounds pretty irritable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgwYr-aDEEY

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

Facebook Aunt posted:

This Pegg guy sounds pretty irritable.

You sound like you've been Pegg'd in the past and didn't like it

Penitent
Jul 8, 2005

The Lemonade Man Can

MikeJF posted:

He was also annoyed by the first trailer being absolutely awful and reinforcing initial fears that this was going to be Justin Lin's Fast and the Furious In Space. I don't think there was a single shot that didn't have the characters wildly jumping or flinging or punching or explosions or something. IIRC Pegg literally said something like "okay, trek fans, trust me, there's more to it than that, okay? I put in actual Star Trek"

But then of course it's pretty well-established how completely and utterly Paramount hosed the marketing of Beyond.

To be fair, he gave Paramount a film that featured a Starship surfing a wave of explosions while blaring the Beastie Boys.

Was he expecting that the Paramount marketing department was going to look at that and make an updated version of the Christopher Plumber narrated Undiscovered Country teaser?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKfkkhEbUlY

A Very Sexy Baby
Sep 25, 2007

I can't help it if men are attracted to me.

Great trailer, but the total lack of new footage makes me think the effects were behind schedule or something.

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

A Very Sexy Baby posted:

Great trailer, but the total lack of new footage makes me think the effects were behind schedule or something.



The production timelines for TUC were insane. They filmed from April to late September 1991, for a release date of December 6 1991. Never mind the effects, they had to start promoting the movie while they were still filming it. By comparison, The Final Frontier had six months between filming and release.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

♪ Come with me, and you'll be, in a world of pure imagination. ♪

Pinterest Mom posted:

By comparison, The Final Frontier had six months between filming and release.

Execs at Final Frontier Premiere: Whatever we did for this movie, do the opposite for the next one :stare:

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
Good art is made under constraints.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Pinterest Mom posted:

The production timelines for TUC were insane. They filmed from April to late September 1991, for a release date of December 6 1991. Never mind the effects, they had to start promoting the movie while they were still filming it. By comparison, The Final Frontier had six months between filming and release.

And boy did it feel like it. I will never get over the moment I rewatched V for the first time in like 15 years realized they just had a static jpeg of the Enterprise-A on screen for certain VFX shots. It just had zero depth or weight to it at all.

Cinema Discusso
Oct 11, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 28 days!

Croatoan posted:

Since Larry's nepo baby took over I fully expect Star Trek to poo poo the bed and make non-woke Star Trek. Maybe that Ferengi TV show was a back door pilot?

Expect a lot more episodes about how Bajor has a right to defend itself.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

nine-gear crow posted:

And boy did it feel like it. I will never get over the moment I rewatched V for the first time in like 15 years realized they just had a static jpeg of the Enterprise-A on screen for certain VFX shots. It just had zero depth or weight to it at all.

It's the one you could most feel the declining returns on Trek movies. It's just a crushingly disappointing experience on all fronts.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



TFF is the one in particular that suffered from effects issues because they couldn't get ILM and had to go with some smaller studio that was like their 4th choice. It really shows.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




nine-gear crow posted:

And boy did it feel like it. I will never get over the moment I rewatched V for the first time in like 15 years realized they just had a static jpeg of the Enterprise-A on screen for certain VFX shots. It just had zero depth or weight to it at all.

It's that one incredibly bad jump-to-warp shot for me.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
Yeah well, I’ve never noticed any of these VFX issues because my heart is pure and the films are perfect :colbert:

Cinema Discusso
Oct 11, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 28 days!

Thaddius the Large posted:

But it’d be a chance to reduce the role of a black man, that’s gotta interest the new leadership

Not all characters will be white. Larry Ellison's MSS wife, aka David Ellison's younger than him step-mum, willl probably get a cameo ala Lauren Sanchez (Bezos wife) in the new Bond movie. The wives of oligarchs will be the cast of our tech-utopian future.

Gelf
Oct 1, 2005

Wake up and smell the psychosis!\

I reckon just before things wind down for Christmas break, Paramount Skydance will announce the deal with Secret Hideout will not be renewed
Then it will be quite a while before we hear what is next

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Gelf posted:

I reckon just before things wind down for Christmas break, Paramount Skydance will announce the deal with Secret Hideout will not be renewed
Then it will be quite a while before we hear what is next

Doomcock out there doing fists pumps that after eight years six whole TV shows and one...-ish movie, he was finally right about Alex Kurtzman getting fired. If he's still alive, I mean, I think he might be dead, I don't want to check.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



I mean that deal may have been wrapping up anyway…there’s only one show in active production and one show that is in the concept phase

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Since this is also the unofficial Paramount News Thread

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/11/higher-prices-simpler-streaming-expected-if-hbo-max-folds-into-paramount/

Looks like Paramount would be folding Max into P+ if they buy WB and not the more reasonable other way around, because why would you want to keep the branding of a streaming service people actually use

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know
No, my HBO Max button! Irrelevant again!!

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Well I have a permanent 50% off for paramount plus, so I'm fine with that.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

♪ Come with me, and you'll be, in a world of pure imagination. ♪

Cojawfee posted:

Well I have a permanent 50% off for paramount plus, so I'm fine with that.

Paramount: Thank you for your purchase of a permanent 50% off for Paramount Plus. This permanent discount has now been ended. A new 5% permanent discount is now available, which will lock you in to a one year unbreakable subscription (auto-renew), with your discount expiring 3 months from the time of purchase.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Waffleman_ posted:

Since this is also the unofficial Paramount News Thread

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/11/higher-prices-simpler-streaming-expected-if-hbo-max-folds-into-paramount/

Looks like Paramount would be folding Max into P+ if they buy WB and not the more reasonable other way around, because why would you want to keep the branding of a streaming service people actually use
I really hope NuParamount doesn't get to buy WBD. I guess both NBCUniversal and Netflix are looking into buying it, but the Trump admin has made it clear that they prefer Paramount because Trump's buddy David Ellison is there

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Waffleman_ posted:

Since this is also the unofficial Paramount News Thread

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/11/higher-prices-simpler-streaming-expected-if-hbo-max-folds-into-paramount/

Looks like Paramount would be folding Max into P+ if they buy WB and not the more reasonable other way around, because why would you want to keep the branding of a streaming service people actually use

We asked God, "Who could possibly stupider than David Zaslav?" and God answered "Have you met David Ellison, by chance?"

grittyreboot
Oct 2, 2012

lol I just remembered mirror universe Tilly's nickname was Killy

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A Very Sexy Baby
Sep 25, 2007

I can't help it if men are attracted to me.

grittyreboot posted:

lol I just remembered mirror universe Tilly's nickname was Killy

Even in-universe they were like "wow, that's lame."

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