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They're TNG-style but with the TOS movie flaps. I like them.
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If anything they look like the scrapped Generations uniform design.
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Aug 11, 2020 03:45
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Phylodox posted:Not to be a complete dorkus, but don’t the uniforms place them at a pre-Voyager point in the timeline? The show takes place in 2380, two years after Voyager returns to earth.
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Aug 11, 2020 03:54
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Something tells me Kate Mulgrew would love hamming it up in a VA role as a parody of Janeway in a Trek comedy.
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Aug 11, 2020 04:08
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Astroman posted:Something tells me Kate Mulgrew would love hamming it up in a VA role as a parody of Janeway in a Trek comedy. Admiral Yawenaj
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Aug 11, 2020 04:14
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Astroman posted:Something tells me Kate Mulgrew would love hamming it up in a VA role as a parody of Janeway in a Trek comedy. she fuckin' kills it in NTSF:SD:SUV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrQDLRM-jG0 "i'll be roughing up witnesses  "
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Aug 11, 2020 04:34
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If they bring back Janeway they have to bring back Harry and somehow have him still being an ensign.
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Aug 11, 2020 06:29
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Senor Tron posted:If they bring back Janeway they have to bring back Harry and somehow have him still being an ensign. I was gonna suggest the opposite - bring in Captain Harry Kim and have him just totally be lording it over the lowers. Gone full smug.
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Aug 11, 2020 07:20
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Where TOS had the redshirts, Voyager had Harry as the Reusable Ensign. All other ensigns in Voyager would die the episode they were introduced, Harry was the only one that could be reused for multiple episodes. Of course they wouldn't promote someone that valuable.
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Aug 11, 2020 07:22
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I enjoyed the first episode, It's a nice change from the lovely gritty trek we've been getting lately. I hope it keeps it up. This might be the best trek thing we've had since the end of DS9 which is kind of sad.
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Aug 11, 2020 08:01
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Grand Fromage posted:They're TNG-style but with the TOS movie flaps. I like them. imo they'd have fit perfectly a in the design timeline about a decade before TNG, but that would have limited the series' ability to reference anything that happened in 90's Trek. But yeah Starfleet goes through like at least 4 different uniforms in the 20 years between Nemesis and Picard, I guess: -TNG Film/Late DS9 uniform -LDS uniform -Picard flashback uniform (that Rios had stashed in his locker, that Picard and Raffi wore in the flashback scenes to his resignation) that looked a little Star Trek Online-y -Modern Picard uniform (that is basically just a Voyager uniform with a TNG collar) -The All Good Things/Endgame uniform is apparently truly Alternate Reality and was forgotten, which was fine because it was uggo despite having the best commbadge, which PIC at least gave a nod to Sounds dumb but when you think about it, the same thing happened in the TNG era over an even shorter 10 years. But at least all of the uniforms below had a coherent lineage that progressed from one generation to another. With the new ones, it feels like the Chief Fashion Officer is never sure exactly whether they want to evolve on a concept or revisit/mishmash old ones. -Early TNG spandex -Regular TNG -Early DS9/Voyager -TNG Film/Late DS9 anyway this was a lot of words about Trek fashion, don't forget to like and subscribe and ring that bell below for mo--- Drone fucked around with this message at 08:08 on Aug 11, 2020 |
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Aug 11, 2020 08:04
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Drone posted:imo they'd have fit perfectly a in the design timeline about a decade before TNG, but that would have limited the series' ability to reference anything that happened in 90's Trek. Of all of those, the Picard flashback uniforms had the best design. They look at little cheap up close in HD, but then again all Trek unifroms do, I find. Something about the modern Picard uniforms just didn't click for me. I think it was the weird sternum indent on the coloured shoulder pieces. But the flashback ones looked really nice. I'd take a whole show with that style if they wanted to make one set between Nemesis and Picard. Astroman posted:Something tells me Kate Mulgrew would love hamming it up in a VA role as a parody of Janeway in a Trek comedy. I wish they'd gotten her back as Starfleet CIC for Picard like they'd originally planned. Janeway telling Picard to gently caress off would have been amazing and made nerd heads explode over it even harder.
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Aug 11, 2020 08:24
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Taear posted:While these things are part of America I'd call it western rather than just american. They're themes of the modern capitalist nation instead of just American stuff. I guess making this a comedy is already going to move it further away from that general cultural appeal but the new ones all feel more American than previous ones. DS9 was American as gently caress. Baseball and root beer as far as the eye can see.
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Aug 11, 2020 10:24
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Senor Tron posted:If they bring back Janeway they have to bring back Harry and somehow have him still being an ensign. iirc, when Voyager made contact with Starfleet, there was an episode where the crewmembers finally talk to their families. The first thing Kim's mom does is ask why he's still an ensign. One of the rare good Voyager episodes. It was the one where the Doctor makes his holoplay about being a slave. nine-gear crow posted:Of all of those, the Picard flashback uniforms had the best design. They look at little cheap up close in HD, but then again all Trek unifroms do, I find. Something about the modern Picard uniforms just didn't click for me. I think it was the weird sternum indent on the coloured shoulder pieces. But the flashback ones looked really nice. I'd take a whole show with that style if they wanted to make one set between Nemesis and Picard. Back when the season was airing, one of the producers (or maybe costume designers, I don't remember) said that was their intent. They wanted the flashback uniforms to look more dignified and classy, and for the modern ones to be off-putting and harsh and angular. I don't think they actually said it was supposed to be a metaphor for the changing nature of Starfleet, but reading between the lines it would be hard to see things any other way.
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Aug 11, 2020 10:38
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Idk the post-nemesis uniforms seem pretty consistent to me, you have a stylistic return to the pre-dominion war aesthetic of black shoulders + colored body with Lower Decks, but everything after that we see is within the same general silhouette of colored shoulders + black body, just with different cuts and detailing. They all even have high collars. also that one ensign on greeter duty at starfleet command in Picard desperately, desperately needed to starch his collars more aggressively
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Aug 11, 2020 10:41
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Which is weird because the modern ones look fine, if a little generic, but the old ones look weird and overly fussy. Those sleeve cuffs are godawful.
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Aug 11, 2020 10:43
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The_Doctor posted:Which is weird because the modern ones look fine, if a little generic, but the old ones look weird and overly fussy. Those sleeve cuffs are godawful. I think only Picard's uniform had the fussy cuffs, which makes sense because he's an admiral at the time and starfleet admirals always had fussy bullshit on their uniforms. I'm pretty sure Raffi's had the standard branch color band.
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Aug 11, 2020 10:48
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Nope! Everyone had them!
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Aug 11, 2020 11:00
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The_Doctor posted:Nope! Everyone had them! these look good i mean, other than being completely ill fitting lol
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Aug 11, 2020 11:04
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I don't like the flared sleeves, what are they elves?
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Aug 11, 2020 11:28
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The_Doctor posted:Nope! Everyone had them! You sure those aren’t dress uniforms?
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Aug 11, 2020 12:31
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I miss the First Contact uniforms. 
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Aug 11, 2020 12:43
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https://wegotthiscovered.com/tv/star-trek-picard-reportedly-lost-audience-season-1/ trash show confused when it loses its audience
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Aug 11, 2020 13:16
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Ramadu posted:https://wegotthiscovered.com/tv/star-trek-picard-reportedly-lost-audience-season-1/ WGTC is a clickbait site that makes poo poo up wholesale. They even cite themselves as a source in that article.
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Aug 11, 2020 13:19
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Phylodox posted:I miss the First Contact uniforms.
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Aug 11, 2020 13:33
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Drone posted:-Early TNG spandex Just to complicate things a little more, the regular TNG and early DS9/VGR uniforms were both being used at the same time. Aside from TNG and DS9 running at the same time, the old FMV game Star Trek: Borg is set on another Federation ship during the events of "Best of Both Worlds, Part II" and everyone's wearing DS9 uniforms, though you can argue against the canonicity of that game pretty easily. Of course, the real question is why Starfleet is suddenly changing their uniforms every 5-10 years when they used to be content wearing the old TWOK uniforms for upwards of eight decades.
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Aug 11, 2020 13:45
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Marshal Radisic posted:Of course, the real question is why Starfleet is suddenly changing their uniforms every 5-10 years when they used to be content wearing the old TWOK uniforms for upwards of eight decades. It's because the TWOK uniforms owned. The overlap between the TNG and DS9/Voyager style, where people were kinda wearing both types (see: Generations) is actually reasonably realistic to how real-world militaries do it, right? Kinda hard to instantly change over from one uniform to another.
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Aug 11, 2020 13:51
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Drone posted:It's because the TWOK uniforms owned. I mean it really isn't when you are on a starship with replicators. The Chief Fashion Officer just does a push update to all the ships that when the crew says "uniform" to the replicator it makes version 97.5 instead of 97.4 There are massive real world practical reasons obviously, and that's all its ever really been
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Aug 11, 2020 13:55
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Drone posted:It's because the TWOK uniforms owned. I actually always thought the DS9 uniforms were the grubby uniforms you'd wear while you were out in the field while the TNG ones were the good ones that you'd wear if your job didn't involve you shoving your hands in starship engine grease all day.
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Aug 11, 2020 13:56
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DS9 depicted the DS9 uniforms as the 'outpost' uniforms, and when a starship captain came they'd have the TNG uniform, or when Sisko was temporarily reassigned to Earth he switched to TNG style. No explanation for Voyager wearing them though.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:WGTC is a clickbait site that makes poo poo up wholesale. They even cite themselves as a source in that article. It's also part of the Chudsphere.
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Aug 11, 2020 14:20
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The Bloop posted:I mean it really isn't when you are on a starship with replicators. The Chief Fashion Officer just does a push update to all the ships that when the crew says "uniform" to the replicator it makes version 97.5 instead of 97.4 Consider that Starfleet personnel are constantly ignoring or deliberately misinterpreting orders so they can just do whatever they want, and that this only becomes more frequent higher up the ranks. I'm sure that it's a Starfleet captain rite of passage to reject, stall, or only partly fulfill orders to update all uniforms to version 97.5. It's a way of warning the admiral above you that if they ever want to make you do war crimes, they'll have to give you the order in person at least. Civilized Fishbot fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Aug 11, 2020 |
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Aug 11, 2020 15:49
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MikeJF posted:I was gonna suggest the opposite - bring in Captain Harry Kim and have him just totally be lording it over the lowers. Gone full smug. Keep him as an ensign but give him his own crappy old ship. His crew are all EMH Mark 1s and if he has any visitors they outrank him. I'm kidding though, he should've been a lieutenant or something by the end of Voyager.
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Aug 11, 2020 16:53
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The_Doctor posted:Nope! Everyone had them! This looks like poo poo from a bad parody. edit: The more I look at it the worse it is, the props they're holding look like garbage as well.
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Aug 11, 2020 18:04
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Duckula posted:This looks like poo poo from a bad parody. Oh yeah, it's the worst designed tablet ever.
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Aug 11, 2020 18:08
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most of the props in that show were complete trash far below TOS or TNG quality for their era The loving 3D printer with the stickers still on it was just embarrassing
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Aug 11, 2020 18:14
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Westworld probably has the most optimal “future tablet”. Literally just three big pieces of glass that hinge open to make a giant display with no bezel or other gaudy 80s influenced future tech designs.
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Aug 11, 2020 18:18
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 These were great props for their time The STP stuff and a lot of recent stuff has just been the laziest Buy a Kindle and Glue Some poo poo On It prop design
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Aug 11, 2020 18:20
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The Bloop posted:
I think it’s because a lot of recent sci-fi has put an emphasis on making those props functional in shots without realizing that you really don’t need to. TNG stuck stickers on PADDs for seven years and no one cared.
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hegel warned us of the dangers of hd centuries ago
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