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Astroman posted:I've said it before and I'll say it again, TATV, at least the Riker parts, would have made a great midseason "event" episode, a fanservice ratings grabber. If they had done that and ended with Terra Prime, TATV would have been as fondly remembered as Trials and Tribbelations or the Sulu ep on Voyager. Maybe if they didn't kill off Trip. Or add a line "That was the first time he died, but then..."
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Tars Tarkas posted:Maybe if they didn't kill off Trip. Or add a line "That was the first time he died, but then..." "Wow Riker; How'd you gently caress up playing so badly you got Trip killed?"
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Tars Tarkas posted:Maybe if they didn't kill off Trip. Or add a line "That was the first time he died, but then..." Killing Trip was pointless and spiteful and seemed aimed squarely at Manny Coto by Brannon Braga because Trip really came into his own and became a fan favourite under Coto's stewardship. You remove Trip's death and These Are The Voyages... suddenly goes from "pretty lovely" to "alright" as both a finale and a general Enterprise episode. Because from what I recall, I don't think Coto and Braga left Enterprise on good terms and didn't patch things up until they started working together on 24 a few years later. I might be wrong though. It's incredibly telling that the first thing they did in the official Enterprise novels was go "Yeah, Trip faked his death because Harris recruited him to run a deep cover op in Romulan territory for Section 31 and they needed plausible deniability, so, *zap!*" nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 08:28 on Apr 17, 2021 |
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Astroman posted:I've said it before and I'll say it again, TATV, at least the Riker parts, would have made a great midseason "event" episode, a fanservice ratings grabber. If they had done that and ended with Terra Prime, TATV would have been as fondly remembered as Trials and Tribbelations or the Sulu ep on Voyager. No, it wouldn't, because beyond the fact that it feels like a TNG episode with the Enterprise cast as guest stars, the script just sucks out loud.
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Timby posted:No, it wouldn't, because beyond the fact that it feels like a TNG episode with the Enterprise cast as guest stars, the script just sucks out loud. The concept would have been alright as a mid season episode, but that would still have made it a copy of that good voyager doctor episode.
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Apr 17, 2021 09:37
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Picard filming! That’s apparently the same actor who played the android on Mars in S1. 
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The_Doctor posted:Picard filming! That’s apparently the same actor who played the android on Mars in S1. What the hell is Telly Savalas wearing? Edit: on no.... are they doing Mirror Picard?
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Retrowave Joe posted:What the hell is Telly Savalas wearing? I mean... They wouldn't, right? That'd be a nuclear banger to drop on Short Treks though
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Apr 18, 2021 00:53
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Nah, that’s just some vaguely Romulan outfit.
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Apr 18, 2021 00:59
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The_Doctor posted:Picard filming! That’s apparently the same actor who played the android on Mars in S1. Picard joined the Psi Corps 
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Cross-Section posted:Picard joined the Psi Corps Worth it if it results in an Alfred Bester cameo
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Those space fascists and their shiny jackboots, I swear
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Apr 18, 2021 02:47
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Kesper North posted:Those space fascists and their shiny jackboots, I swear Sir Pat: "I want to dress up as a... future Nazi this season" Entire writer's room: 
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It does look vaguely Romulan. Particularly with the sash thing.
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Do you remember how the first season pulls from Mass Effect 1? Remember how in Mass Effect 2 it's about having to work with the deranged bad-guy cult to get the job done?...
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Apr 18, 2021 05:51
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oh for gently caress’s sake it’s a single set photo of a costume you can’t even see clearly
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I buy it as Romulan. It has shoulder pads.
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I guess my av is the only one who remembers the robits.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:oh for gently caress’s sake it’s a single set photo of a costume you can’t even see clearly Oh I'm more than happy to be proven wrong on this by the show, I just don't have high hopes for it happening.
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Mirror Picard gonna meet mirror Georgiou.
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Apr 18, 2021 10:40
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They didn't pull it off, but... I can see what they were going for.
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Apr 18, 2021 10:48
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So they moved away from big pillowy checkered tweed grey uniforms to black and leather for Romulans?
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MariusLecter posted:So they moved away from big pillowy checkered tweed grey uniforms to black and leather for Romulans? Turns out it was the one aspect of Shinzon’s administration that everyone actually liked, so they just kept it 
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Aren't those synths illegal now? So it's either a flashback or he's visiting this synth somewhere hidden, which might explain why he's wearing all black (?) I mean nobody expected something as on-the-nose as a literal pith helmet and British Colony uniform in S1 so "black = SECRET MISSION" doesn't seem incredibly far-fetched to me
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Snow Cone Capone posted:Aren't those synths illegal now? So it's either a flashback or he's visiting this synth somewhere hidden, which might explain why he's wearing all black (?) Shouldn't Picard be disassembled now too?
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It’s possible the new season will deal with the Federation reconsidering the synth ban, especially now that one of its most famous and beloved Starfleet officers is technically now a synth. Picard would obviously be a very vocal proponent for synth rights even aside from his own nature.
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Didn't they straight-up lift the synth ban at the end of the first season? I think there was exactly one (1) line about it somewhere between Data becoming quantum dust and Seven finding herself a new girlfriend.
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poo poo, yeah apparently it was mentioned as being lifted in the finale. I completely forgot.
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Delsaber posted:Didn't they straight-up lift the synth ban at the end of the first season? I think there was exactly one (1) line about it somewhere between Data becoming quantum dust and Seven finding herself a new girlfriend.
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Azhais posted:Worth it if it results in an Alfred Bester cameo The non-canon autobiography of Picard had Chekhov as head of Starfleet intelligence.
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I guess I assumed that a) the Utopia Planitia synths were long-gone and b) despite lifting the ban they would not necessarily immediately go back to making more identical synths, but  it is Picard
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Maybe they just put them all in a box?
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'and the lesson we learned from all of this is that actually robot slavery is okay'
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Khanstant posted:Rome owned but if it had a Dragon or Dungeon or two it would've gone on more than 2ish seasons. I mean it did have a sex dungeon at one point
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Neo Rasa posted:I'm sure you've seen Krull, but if not, that is an EXTREMELY D&D movie, IIRC it was going to be an official D&D movie briefly very early on in its production. But like, 70s/early 80s fantasy so like gently caress yeah, wizards, dudes with laser rifles, castle spaceships, all good. I mean if we're going there, there are literal D&D movies. They're pretty terrible, but they exist. There's also stuff like Gamers: Dorkness Rising I guess.
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Alchenar posted:'and the lesson we learned from all of this is that actually robot slavery is okay'
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The Romulans didn't predict anything correctly, they were literally responsible for every "Synths are dangerous" incident in the story.
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Alchenar posted:'and the lesson we learned from all of this is that actually robot slavery is okay' I mean, they already did sentient hologram mining slaves in Voyager as I remember it? And anyway, the synths seemed like they didn't have much sentience anyway, so the slavery wasn't really worse than Number One. Also that guy is definitely a synth as shown, so we are getting some plot about the old synths being reactivated somehow.
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Alchenar posted:'and the lesson we learned from all of this is that actually robot slavery is okay' Hey remember the outcome of The Measure of a Man, where they specifically laid precedent down to prevent occurring one day should someone work out how to make more sentient androids like Data? No? Hello? Oh... 
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Hey remember the outcome of The Measure of a Man, where they specifically laid precedent down to prevent occurring one day should someone work out how to make more sentient androids like Data? Just program the new androids to be unable to ask for their rights. Just like Data was programmed to not be able to use contractions*. Easy peasy, legal precedent neatly avoided. * Unless Spiner accidentally let one slip through, of course
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