kidkissinger posted:

Where in the world are you that it's the 24th???

Big Mean Jerk posted:

- Not sure why we needed an ultra-secret zealot version of the Tal Shiar instead of just using... the Tal Shiar

large_gourd posted:

i think i'll have a better sense of what the gently caress this show actually is with another couple of episodes. still in wait and see mode.

Lester Shy posted:

The cursing in these new American shows always feels a little forced.

FlamingLiberal posted:

My main issue with the Disco uniforms is that they all look the same and it's not color coded by department like in all other series.

Big Mean Jerk posted:

The doctors wear all-white versions of the same uniforms.

GoutPatrol posted:

Also feels wrong to call Picard JL.

ashpanash posted:

Any argument brought up against this show can be shown aside episodes from every one of the TV shows. Most of them, in fact, are about as good or worse television than what we've gotten from Picard. I agree, a couple dozen of them are excellent, and we have yet to see something on that level from New Trek. So I'm waiting for that, sure. But to be disappointed in every episode because it's not loving genius? It rubs against the minutea of the lore? Maybe I'm just not enough of a "Star Trek fan" to care.

PostNouveau posted:

I've got a little glimmer of hope for Picard because they're finally in loving space so maybe they'll get closer to the good episodes of Disco where it's space anomalies and time shifts and weird energy readings they have to check out.

CPColin posted:

Those three episodes should have been edited down to and presented as a single, feature-length premiere.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

Picard literally said she was a Vulcan in this episode.

Isometric Bacon posted:

I think it's a refreshing change of pace, and I'm enjoying seeing the mystery unfold and all the world building they're giving the Romulans and establishing of Picard's new crew.

Is everyone forgetting Discovery with its 1200 concurrent plot points and not giving enough time to really focus on any one of them?

The Bloop posted:

You're wrong

It creates far more in depth conversation over a much longer period.

You can actually talk about episodes irl and online without the minefield of spoilers and everyone being at different points in the series

Tighclops posted:

ninja romulan feels like he's worf 2.0

Timeless Appeal posted:

I feel like I would have been fine with her calling him French or Cue Ball or Earl.

Lizard Combatant posted:

_{very satisfied that "vajazzle" is catching on, my work here is done}

Alchenar posted:

I'm starting to get a bit of a Culture novel vibe from the series. Not as good, but I think I can see how you could take the initial script treatment and instead make it a culture story.

zoux posted:

I don't buy that Agnes had never seen such an ad.

Delthalaz posted:

Making this show about the individual Picard is looking like a big mistake.

zoux posted:

Picard haters: what's the most recent star trek thing you actually liked

Eiba posted:

Or are you going to tell me that when a writer puts gory explosion conspiracy aliens in one episode, and has a random guy from the 80s be incredulous about a lack of currency in another episode, that there was a coherent world being created and not just everything being thrown at the wall to see what sticks?

istewart posted:

There's nothing in these scenes that makes the characters likeable, or even indicates that they like each other.

Powered Descent posted:

e2: Okay, "I've come to offer your employer alternative remuneration" is a bit of a tight squeeze, I suppose, but you could work out how technically they're "offering" some phaser stuns and a hasty retreat with Maddox.

zoux posted:

When are you going to stop watchign this show you clearly despise

Lovely Joe Stalin posted:

That's exactly my issue. I'd like to talk about the programmes I enjoy watching without pointlessly aggressive gate keeping by shitwits who are offended that people might like it, and subsequently try to drown any discourse in meaningless catchphrases and criticisms unsupported by the episodes.

Senor Tron posted:

as we have all learned in the 21st century give people online anonymity and some will become utter trash.

Snow Cone Capone posted:

e: it was this book

TheCenturion posted:

One thing I didn't like was how they dragged Raffi, hosed up from the loss of her son, drunk, high, put her in front of Federation Facetime, had her burn a friendship to get Picard what he needed, and his response was to stand up and clap. Then they stick her back into her bunk and completely ignore the fact that she's hurting and grieving and spiraling (back) into self-destruction. Professor Xavier, you're a jerk!

Angry Salami posted:

Would that work, though? Skin regenerates itself constantly, so the scanner probably wouldn't be able to give an accurate reading.

marktheando posted:

Picard was surprised by what’s going on in the cube because in typical old man using computer style he just did an image search.

NZAmoeba posted:

Romulans don't even tell people their real name, and maintain 3 different identities

Cojawfee posted:

But what if they all died and he's just a hologram recreation.

Epicurius posted:

Maybe the Q are holograms. Really makes you think.

Powered Descent posted:

Tiggum posted:

Was there a radiation leak from an improperly repaired drive plate?

piratepilates posted:

It's like a sickness among writers and producers that they have to keep creating bigger and bigger stories with even bigger scopes that Change Everything We Know.

DaveKap posted:

Also why did Soji ask Troi how to eat a tomato? Just because she ate replicator food doesn't mean she shouldn't know how to bite into a tomato.

Epicurius posted:

I've never eaten replicator food, so who knows. It's a pretty constant thing throughout Star Trek though that when people have the chance to eat non-replicated food, they take it.

Epicurius posted:

Even if you want to assume that replicated food isn't worse than non-replicated food, then in a society like the one TNG proposes, which is largely post scarcity, and you can have all the replicated food and replicated cabinets and replicated clothing or whatever you want, then that stuff becomes valueless, and what becomes valuable is the stuff that you can't get that way.

Epicurius posted:

No comment on the second, but if she's eaten replicated food all her life, why would she have necessarily seen a raw, unprocessed tomato before?

zoux posted:

Also when they handed Pill the, uh, pill and she instantly ate it I was fully expecting Oh to go, no you just hide it in your luggage Jesus Christ

Delthalaz posted:

I enjoyed every scene with Riker, Troi, and Picard on the planet. Actually the entire sequence on the planet was great imo. That poo poo is exactly what I want from ST: Picard and I could not care less if it’s fan service.

zoux posted:

Did y'all read that scene as her trying to kill herself or just gently caress herself up enough that the tracker stopped working

Delthalaz posted:

You know come to think about it, these hybrid children with parents from entirely different species that evolved on planets lightyears apart may be some of the most implausible conceits in star trek

Lovely Joe Stalin posted:

Given the best episode of Star Trek in twenty-one years you're mithering about the good characters that were in it, because putting good characters in good scenes is bad somehow.

Good Christ you're a misery.

teacup posted:

I watched all of TNG and Voyager back in the day. I never watched DS9. Does it hold up?

Big Mean Jerk posted:

It helped that DS9 was more of an ensemble, and so they were able to give us tons of little humanizing moments and show how each character was dealing with the war and coping with their situation.

Lovely Joe Stalin posted:

That is entirely true. I should have said "rough as gently caress compared to season two onwards".

Isometric Bacon posted:

Late to the discussion, but I thought the Troi and Riker 'Tragic loss of a child' thing was also explicitly designed as a way to explain why they wouldn't immediately mount the saddle to join Picard in his quest, for which I thought it actually worked, given if this was TNG or the movies that's exactly what they'd do.

Carbon dioxide posted:

Does Prime have different content per country or something?

Duckula posted:

Q is going to show up at the end and tell Picard the trial never ended.

AndyElusive posted:

I really didn't have an issue with the swearing before, like, at all. But man, I'd love to go a couple of episodes of Picard without someone yelling "gently caress" just for the hell of it.

I guess that's modern television dialog now though.

Autism Sneaks posted:

as fun as Raffi and the holos was it was breathtakingly lazy that Rios's tragic backstory tied directly into Picard's mission. I know it's far from the only plot contrivance the show makes but it's by far the most offensive

FlamingLiberal posted:

I will say that it's impressive that this show has both managed to drag out episodes that they didn't have to, and also overstuff later episodes because they ran out of time in one season

Alan_Shore posted:

Unless I have contracted malaria and have gone deaf, I don't know why people are talking about a genocidal ancient being showing up to destroy everything. She already has shown up: it's Soji. They've said it multiple times

Powered Descent posted:

You're right that for the huge majority of shows, viewers aren't going to get obsessive over the exact order of things. But the episodes are clearly presented as events in the lives of the fictional characters. Interesting or funny things seeming to happen to them weekly like clockwork, never really overlapping and only rarely referred to afterward, is just part of the convention of the format.

Khanstant posted:

Does Star Wars have a point or a message?