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The themesong and its graphics are absolutely perfect. It's fitting that the first Star Trek show that focuses on introspection is also the first to use "exploration of the nanoscopic and AI" graphics instead of "exploration of the macroscopic" graphics, and the opening with the shard of glass falling from the sky over the vineyard ending with it becoming part of Picard's face is great.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:God drat do i hate it when shows establish sibling relationships by having one character call the other "little sister" or "big brother" in casual conversation No, that's not how people talk, but it's done a lot on serial television and in soap operas in order to make people just tuning in feel less lost. This episode was a lot slower than the first one, mainly because the scenes between Narek and Soji went on way too long and it felt like the usual "let's draw in more audience by showing hot people making out" TV filler insertion. There was also the CSI: Picard scene, which was pretty long, but I enjoyed it and the Romulan molecular reconstruction tech nevertheless. galenanorth fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Feb 1, 2020 |
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I initially thought it was over-the-top but later liked it later on the more I thought about it, like the opposite of "fridge logic". I did not notice there was a swear in the speech while viewing the episode
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Feb 3, 2020 20:05
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I can deal with rear end in a top hat admirals and I can even accept that they managed to get their way this time when it came to Romulan policy, but honestly what I found more disappointing in terms of setting were the little details about the workers at Mars. Why do they have bad food? Why are they feeling overworked? Are these just lazy writing shortcuts or do the writers/producers deliberately want to convey that 24th century workers are trapped in wage slavery just the same as 21st century workers? Yeah, I'm going with lazy writing in that part. It felt like being in the same spirit as Deep Space Nine's ration scenes when the replicators were down due to an attack, except without any justification. It's a shame, because F8 was great.
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nine-gear crow posted:Again, compare how much America changed ideologically from 2000 to 2020. Grab someone from the day before George W Bush was elected and drop them off on the day before Donald Trump was elected and they've have a brainsplintering meltdown over it. It stands to reason a much vaster political entity like the United Federation of Planets could have even vaster ideological swings over the same time period. I was always kind of curious how Federation politics works, what their political parties stand for (if they still have them), and what policies have changed from term to term
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Morn is having his own time-traveling adventure, but we don't get to see the context because the series isn't from his POV
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Do you mean Jake? Because
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Origami Dali posted:they're just replicants 
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Lizard Combatant posted:Raffi the Vape Lord was hysterically bad. The writing, the performance, the editing! It's been a consistent director for all 3 so I don't know where to place the blame here. I don't mind smoking in cinema usually, but previous canon suggested that nobody in the Federation smoked in the future, with Quark specifically pointing it out as crazy, and here it was just really distracting and trying to be edgy on top of everything. The crew's all right and Jurati continues to be the best new character. Smuggling seems like reason enough to bring charging money into it. large_gourd posted:
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CPColin posted:I mean, you'd have to lose some scenes and lengthen others, sure. Maybe I should've said edit the story down to two episodes, then adjust the pacing accordingly. They should've focused on Picard's journey away from Earth and gotten him on a ship at the end of the first episode. Then the camera can warp over to the cube and reveal Soji. Yeah, so far I think it'd work well to have a separate Soji episode and cut out every scene with the spy. They spent so much time setting up "they're in a relationship" that could have been satisfactorily implied with a throwaway line, like how the opening scene with Dahj and her boyfriend conveyed it very quickly
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The Bloop posted:You're wrong Yeah, if it all came out at once, there may be things being criticized that wouldn't be, out of forgiveness for how it turned out in the long run, but there'd also probably be a lot of details in each episode not being discussed. I like the weekly release, and I like reading posts on these forums when I'm doing something like cooking a pizza or waiting for the bus
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marktheando posted:Good natured bitching about the old style replicators from workers who are otherwise smiley and pleased. It's portrayed as a job where you are isolated and go without the finer things, sure. Like an oil rig worker or something. But did you watch the short trek? Their kids on earth are going to a very nice looking school. Them wearing hard hats and not having the best food available at work doesn't mean they are poor! Yeah, the appearance of the vineyard raised the question of what determines whether a Federation citizen has more land than another in a certain location if there are factors aside from ancestral ownership. My parents had their house taken away because they couldn't pay they put the house up for a mortgage because they were unable to pay the property tax. Land in proximity to a certain location is inherently a limited resource that can't be replicated, even though everything on the vineyard itself can be. Picard having a vineyard didn't bother me, though, because it ultimately doesn't matter much except for the sentimental value of owning the same parcel of land as an ancestor. Unlike our Earth, having any land at all is not an issue, and they can move to another class M planet if it's about the climate, and transportation distances are so much shorter that those are less likely to be a factor, too. galenanorth fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Feb 9, 2020 |
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Arglebargle III posted:Don't worry, the Star-Trek-likers (a thousand curses upon their heads) have already come up with head canon for that one. Regardless of whether it's actual canon or not, I like the idea of chosen living conditions in post-scarcity reflecting a broken mental state, like the tropes related to dreams and virtual reality, but in reality
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This was the best episode so far for me. I agree that this is the best Star Trek since DS9. The scenery on Vashti was fantastic, and every minute of the episode was great exceptashpanash posted:I'm also on team 'bored of the borg cube' already. Something needs to happen. But if I'm looking for a positive I actually liked the 'take off your shoes' sliding scene. Cheesy, sure, but a plausible sort of thing that you might expect to do if you're trying to get closer to someone. Lord knows there are cheesier scenes in Trek. galenanorth fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Feb 14, 2020 |
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Hipster_Doofus posted:Re episode 5 trailer: If there is never another counting the number of sci-fi casino episodes I can remember TNG: The casino hidden in the gas giant Cowboy Bebop: The episode that introduces Faye Valentine galenanorth fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Feb 16, 2020 |
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watching Star Trek: Discovery S01E01 In the opener, the Captain Georgiou could have just told Michael Burnham that they were using the trail to leave a message visible from space, instead of leaving her in confusion until rescue actually came. I don't like the Klingon design, but I can ignore it, and everything else looks great. I like the "inspiring exploration" talk in the first half Edit: It was going well until Burnham decided to incapacitate the captain and launch a pre-emptive strike, which didn't exactly end well in the Iraq War. I'll see how it goes when I have time for the next episode. galenanorth fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Feb 16, 2020 |
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DIS S01E03: The spore drive concept is great. Commander Stammet's suspicions about the motives for "that warmonger Lorca" assigning Burnham to the mission constitutes the only editorial disapproval of Burnham's mutiny I've seen so far. I forgot about the gore criticism in this show. I've never liked horror movies. It'd be nice if there were a warning so I could skip those scenes. I like normal Star Trek eeriness without the overly realistic gore in the dark hallways, though. galenanorth fucked around with this message at 06:09 on Feb 17, 2020 |
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Watching DIS S01E04, it feels like they had intended for Lorca to be evil since the beginning of the show, as he engages in kick the puppy nipple-clamp the tardigrade cruelty, but that doesn't really change that a Mirror Universe story released weekly in the context of fans having reason to be anxious that Star Trek is going to go full-24 was a bad idea https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3835149&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=75 Flashback to when the thread was discussing whether Lorca is from the Mirror Universe, and yeah, "this is not us, we're meant to be explorers!" has been a plot point for too long. If there's another series set after Picard, I'd like it to be another plain straight-up exploration series galenanorth fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Feb 18, 2020 |
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Dysgenesis posted:What Brannon Braga means is he is incapable of writing an interesting robot zombie story without a shtick. They could have had scenes from the point of view of someone whose planet is being assimilated as it's being assimilated. That'd probably be too expensive to show in a TV show, seeing as how Fear the Walking Dead had hardly any crowd scenes because of it, but they could have done it during the movie
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DIS S01E06: The B plot with Lorca was good. The "you're not who I thought you were anymore" and looking into a window as a mirror moments were nice foreshadowing. The introduction with Burnham's banter with Tally was as good as any Star Trek opener before the weirdness starts, but then the actual A plot with Burnham and Sarek seemed to drag on forever compared to the previous episodes.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:Back on topic, I rewatched and the horrible secret pretty much has to be synths trend towards collectives and the Romulans were the first to find out because their synths became the Borg. If it's that, I won't mind it as long as it's a Borg instead of the Borg, in the sense that it is a threat that has a chance of independently arising from any sufficiently advanced civilization, like warp travel. I hope it's something that I'm not expecting, something worse than that. Most of the episode was all right, except for the eyeball scene. I think the context of episodes afterward can make an episode seem better in retrospect. galenanorth fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Feb 21, 2020 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:Episode 5 thoughts The inconsistency seemed to already be introduced in the Voyager episode where Ferengi are trying to steal Seven's nanoprobes using a long-distance scam where they replace the EMH with their own program. There was never a curious black market whenever the opportunity the Borg showed up any other time, so I assumed that Federation law enforcement had to have been dealing with vultures off-screen as aftermath after every Borg episode Edit: This comment was really dumb and probably borne out of an attempt to be overly agreeable galenanorth fucked around with this message at 14:01 on Feb 21, 2020 |
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It was Raffi's best episode, all the Raffi scenes were great, and they make her appearances in early episodes better by providing more context.
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It seemed like she needed to be put some place where she can't harm anyone anymore, either jail or death if jail isn't a feasible option. It's like Picard thought that criminals can be talked into redemption with 0% chance of recidivism on the spot. Talking things out and trusting as a substitute for jail can only make sense when someone has been working for another faction and has turned traitor, or during international diplomacy, when there may be ways to test and be sure of sincerity and motives. That's all I remember Picard applying that toward in TNG. It doesn't work as well for criminal impulses of violence and greed, in which case rehabilitation has to be balanced with the need to make sure that they don't hurt anyone until then. They seemed to be conflating those two situations.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Really not helping the "There are 18 people in the universe, tops" problem that star trek has always had
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I watched "Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad" and it was the best DIS episode so far, but it has a similar problem in that the Harry Mudd character didn't have to be Harry Mudd
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Feb 21, 2020 19:05
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The planet they're visiting was never part of the Federation, so I don't see the Freecloud situation in particular as a symptom of being grimdark, seeing as how there were tons of planets they visited in the earlier series that were in various states of decay
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I am toward the end of Star Trek: Discovery's first season, and this show would be so much better without Ash Tyler, who is the worst character. All his scenes are boring, predictable, and gross for the sake of shock imagery. Star Trek should be amenable toward viewing with family, whereas this Trek has plenty of scenes where someone could walk past and you'd have to be like "I swear it's not like this all the time" or else they'd think you like to watch Klingon torture porn. Stametts is great, and Mirror Stamett's initial prank on his counterpart made me laugh out loud. Burnham, Tilly, and (Mirror) Lorca are all right, though it probably would have been better to have a season with Georgiou beforehand, for actual Star Trek instead of wartime corrupted-by-mirror-Lorca Star Trek. Lorca can be a good character while making the show worse, in a context where everyone is afraid the show has been taken over by millionaires who will give the show a neoliberal or even neoconservative voice.
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After the mirror arc in DIS Season 1 I was thinking "So the Mirror Universe stuff is over, right? That's the last we've seen of the Ash Tyler storyline, right?" The moment where a few people sit with him in the lunch room was its high point, but it wasn't worth the rest of the screentime. Then they just keep on doing it for two episodes. At least the show and Michael Burnham finally state outright in the season finale that she was wrong in the first episode. The whole point of the series seems to be asking "is the Federation going to lose its way" as a source of tension like the tension of someone almost dying in an action scene, and even when it answers "no, never", it's not enthralling because they've been doing that for far too long. The tension also feels like it's a plain endorsement and bad writing. That feeling of Old Star Trek at the end doesn't make up for "what is this poo poo?" leading up to it.
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It occurs to me just now that one possible evil use of synth technology (not a spoiler for any episode except the first) would be replacing politicians or whoever with body doubles with nearly identical memories, although I don't think that's where they're going, even with mentioning hypotheticals, given all the infiltration storylines that have been done already
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I like La Sirena's interior because its industrial feel seems appropriate for its size, even though it's post-scarcity
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Maybe they're afraid of introducing too much continuity, but there is precedent in that TNG mentioned the pre-series Cardassian War and DS9 mentioned a pre-series war with the Tzenkethi in a way that I wasn't sure for a moment if I'd missed something
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DIS S02E01 is like a whole different show. It's so much better without Ash Tyler, the Klingons, and every episode's plot being "are they going to do bad things because it's easy". The Burnham family storyline is all right, aside from the namedropping of established characters, and I just imagine that the names are changed as long as it can make sense. As the saying goes, reusing characters too often makes the fictional universe feel smaller. The episode had Apollo 13 vibes and Commander Reno's a treasure.
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It is an absolute shame that four of the first five episodes of Season 2 DIS were TNG/DS9 quality, except the last one had to completely wreck it at the end with the line "Nation building is never pretty". The second episode was great in that the situation presented seemed ambiguous as to whether a lost human civilization meets the criteria of General Order 1. I sided with Captain Pike in that the reason behind it is likely because intervention can lead toward unforeseen consequences and disturbance of a balance, which doesn't change if the civilization isn't alien. On the other hand, the civilization is small enough that the Federation could devote experts full-time toward handling the consequences, whatever the case may be, not like worlds of billions which could be disrupted and then left behind. Then they go and retcon the policy not intervening even in the Klingon Empire or Romulan Empire. It was already wrecked when Georgiou didn't stay in prison, but I could ignore it more easily then because it didn't intersect with the main storyline. I thought that after the Season 1 finale refuted the Season 1 premiere with Michael Burnham admitting she was wrong, Season 2 wouldn't be as bad as I'd heard, but on the other hand I had read enough to know this was coming.
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The now very tired new Star Wars type cliche of bringing back a character only to kill him or her off not soon after wasn't enough to dull the rest of the episode for me. This is TNG/DS9 quality. Even for the worst aspects, I'll take contrivances about silicon-based diseases over Molly-becomes-a-cavewoman-for-an-episode any day.
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upgunned shitpost posted:aunty rafi's cake-mix may be the first fun thing I've ever heard federation people talk about. I liked the red velvet joke because red velvet is my favorite flavor of cake, or at least the flavor of cake I'd like to be eating right now the most if not for the calories. All the La Sirena scenes were good
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Lizard Combatant posted:Can I just start in season 4 of enterprise? Is there anything I absolutely need to know going in? (maybe courtesy spoiler it if you like). Yes It has a groaner of a Nazi alien time-traveling two-part episode at the start, but that one can be skipped, too
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The mug with peppermint ice cream with the peppermint stick in it was a good prop. Peppermint ice cream is my second-favorite flavor right now behind classic vanilla
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