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wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019

Wheeee posted:

Discovery is an insanely stupid and mean-spirited show

Between Picard and Discovery I'm pretty well convinced that, despite liking Pike and his first officer, there will not be a good Star Trek again any time soon if ever

it's because tng and stuff were profoundly optamistic

the federation is no longer our imagined future, we want and deserve fallout or the walking dead as our fiction

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wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019
I mean, the original series was during Vietnam and the Cold war, not to mention like, 1968 and yet it contained direct reference to the cold war being idiotic primitive squabbling.

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019
all i get when i search for "star trek" on youtube are some of the best videos of all time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rYMykaNW6s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhhb3tpOyzE

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019
also, why is the lower decks "teenage comedy" what does that even mean

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019

nine-gear crow posted:

Star Trek: Buzz Words

This extended reference to a 30 year old show means a lot to teens!!!

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019
All kids care about today is tiktok and jonathan frakes

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019
star trek is just a show we watch to see how they gently caress it up

they can't make it good because the people who become producers are incapable of understanding what made tos, tng, and ds9 good.

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019

nine-gear crow posted:

That kind of is one of the things that pulls Picard apart is that between DS9, Voyager, Nemesis, and then Trek '09, the Trek universe was left with 20 years worth of both in- and out of-universe messy loose ends and the show felt the need to try and address as many of them as it could on a Prestige TV timeline, so what should have been like one season on the Federation post-Dominion War, one season on the Romulans post-supernova, and then one season the Borg post-Endgame instead tried to do everything at once because they weren't even sure they were gonna get a second season with Patrick Stewart now in his 80s even before COVID came along.

Or literally don't directly address anything. It would be like if someone made two novels, one set in 1936, and one in 1966, and they spent most of the time explaining how Hitler was defeated, seeing as that's important to understand the world of 1966.

All of the politics was always just background, and if you notice TNG and stuff very rarely address it besides excuses for the enterprise to go to X and meet with Z, or to set up character dynamics. Moving the timeline along is a terrible focus.

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019


becoming salamander is the best method of death

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaAiIrdzDYY&t=117s

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019
Seems like this future where metastatic lung cancer has been curable with an injection for at least 200 years sure has a lot of dead kids!

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019
Its cool that discovery added explicitly non-binary & trans human characters, but its sorta stange that they had the non-binary one explain their pronouns, I would have hoped that would've been accepted by that point in the future

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019
in the far future you can be misgendered by your boss but in space

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019

MariusLecter posted:

Yeah this comes up a lot, trek isn't a docu series about the future it's a media franchise that sometimes tries to include modern issues.

They had that episode in tos with the aliens who are white on one half and black on the other where racism wasn't a thing for hundreds of years.

I think TNG was very hopeful about it, it always would come across a situation that was clear social commentary (The Outcast for example being a reference towards the treatment of gay people etc) and just be like "this is a problem we used to have on earth, we've solved it." Idk, just seems like a much more hopeful prospect than people having to essentially justify their existance no differently than today but in the far future.

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wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019
sorta like how they're all still skeptical towards time travel despite it being confirmed since the 2160s

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