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This release schedule is infuriating. They're doing the "one long bingeable movie broken up into a season of television" style netflix thing, but they're still dragging it out over weekly airings. IT'S NOT A TV SHOW. IT'S NOT ON TV. NOBODY WATCHES TV. STOP IT. I heard someone describe Picard as "The Expanse porn parody without the porn" and I really can't disagree so far.
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Lizard Combatant posted:Probably because you're primed to associate it with a story about to start. We've just watched the longest loving cold open ever. they did the exact same thing with Discovery, which managed to get much worse once they got into the season. Here's hoping they learn from their mistakesahahhahaha bwaaaaahhahah. e: vvv yep, I'm bailing on this until it's done Dr. Fishopolis fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Feb 6, 2020 |
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just another posted:VOICE OVER threw up in my mouth a lil
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zoux posted:Can you expound on this, I don’t know much about editing just for kicks, I thought I'd flip through the latest ep on double speed to spot the worst crimes - opens with a flashback sequence to an event and location that we have no frame of reference for (but sure is gory! that'll keep butts in seats right?) - cut to two weeks ago, totally different characters and location. wait, didn't we just do this? we're doing a double flashback cold open? - allison pill's character is watching a vid. she sad about maddox. in her bunk. next scene: same character is on the bridge. when did this happen? you couldn't at least start the scene with a shot she's not in so we don't get whiplash? - entire freecloud sequence keeps cutting back to raffi explaining what's happening in flashback. Fine maybe the first couple times, but the scene never gets a chance to work because it keeps cutting its own tension off at the knees to explain what's going on throughout the entire thing - of course we cut back to the flashback of vajazzle getting tortured to death. we couldn't possibly infer that from seven passionately describing exactly that, we have to see it because the audience has no object permanence - this is probably the biggest one: around 33 minutes in, the lizard dude activates his wrist phaser or whatever. cut back to picard, then cut to seven reacting to a phaser flash. THEN we cut to lizard guy getting shot in the back by a guard, then we cut to captain fancy hat lowering his phaser. What in the holy gently caress happened? Everyone is fine except the lizard guy. What was the first shot? We're supposed to assume captain hat shot the lizard, but he didn't pull the trigger. Nothing makes sense. All we needed to see was the wrist phaser reveal, seven's reaction shot and the captain lowering his gun. There are two extra shots that completely ruin the sequence, it feels like a rough cut that got out the door by accident. - maybe it's just me, but that last scene was so telegraphed and so drawn out I was cringing halfway through. More of a script note than an edit note, but it's all bad.
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Feb 22, 2020 20:53
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FlamingLiberal posted:The whole idea of ‘we’re going to intercut the planning of the plan with the actual plan going down’ is done so horribly It's such a tired trope at this point you'd either have to do it really, really well to get any impact out of it, or play it off as parody. Neither thing happened here. My guess is they didn't have enough coverage to make either scene interesting, so this was how they "fixed" it
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Feb 22, 2020 21:08
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Drink-Mix Man posted:man, for people who love optimism so much, Star Trek fans sure love to talk negatively about things i'm optimistic that you can improve your posting if you work hard at it
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Feb 22, 2020 21:43
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the more i think about it the more i can convince myself this whole season is an adaptation of the terrible secret of space
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Feb 22, 2020 22:13
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SpeakSlow posted:So could someone tell me why there's a marked focus on camera angles in the thread? Seriously curious. Same reason there's a marked focus on pork belly futures in the thread. There isn't one. What the gently caress are you talking about?
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Feb 23, 2020 18:20
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SpeakSlow posted:Oh come on. Let's not be defensively obtuse. Run a few pages back and you'll see it. I don't really know what your critique is because I'm not scrolling back to pick out posts about camera angles. If you're responding to something, quote it.
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Feb 23, 2020 19:58
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what has happened to this thread oh my goodness
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Feb 24, 2020 07:20
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zoux posted:Chain of Command Jellico was a big ol sourpuss but he wasn't a bad guy
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Feb 24, 2020 20:03
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ashpanash posted:Fuckin A, Jellico was awesome. If anything, Riker was the bad guy there. riker really pulled a Burnham on that one
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Feb 24, 2020 20:08
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aw what the hell man we're all here waiting for Timby to relax so we can hear about some juicy old forum drama you're killing the vibe
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Feb 25, 2020 00:49
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:The dialogue is a bit rough in places, yes. But then some of it is spot on like the Seven/Picard talk about humanity in the latest episode. The technobabble reconstruction of Dahj's apartment was awful. But here's the thing, the dialogue in Trek,, has always had absolute shite sitting alongside every memorable line. The technobabble has, equally, always veered from acceptable to utter bollocks. Nothing has been as execrable as "yum yum" or as awkward as Tilly's shouting about the power of math. The godawful Romulan sister is approaching that though, her and the weird incest-y vibe she gives off can get to gently caress. If I could get past the editing and pacing, I might agree with this, but I can't so I don't. It's like TNG as viewed through a JJ Abrams funhouse mirrror, which is less jarring than TOS reflected in the same way. The stakes always amount to "the end of everything" and the characters always resolve them without growing. Along the way we get signposts that remind us what franchise we're watching, but otherwise it's always the same story. It doesn't help that they seem to have hired the editing team from the US version of Hell's Kitchen.
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Feb 25, 2020 16:33
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hey zoux it's literally impossible to be wrong about a personal opinion, how about you stop posting about how popular this show is as if that's going to change anyone's mind or shut down criticism in this thread
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Feb 25, 2020 17:18
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marktheando posted:TV networks don't reward unpopular shows with like 20 spinoffs. Normally, no, but the KPIs for streaming are completely different. For all we know, Disco is performing horribly by TV standards but they ran the math on subs and figured it was worth doing as a loss leader to get people on the platform so they can monetize later. They're not looking at the same ad buy spectrum at all, they're more likely trying to build a userbase big enough to attract big clients.
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Feb 25, 2020 17:48
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Zushio posted:I thought the random Borg yelling "Hey Locutus" as they ran toward Soji was amazing. especially since it was such an obvious ADR thrown in at the last minute
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Longbaugh01 posted:Now I can’t remember if transporter clone Riker had a beard or not. If he did, then that’s a bit strange considering that accident happened before TNG S1 and then he was marooned for years. Why would Thomas Riker suddenly feel the need to have a finely trimmed beard one day while in a living hell? no, he had a goatee with peel-away disguise sideburns in case he had to impersonate his brother edit speaking of beards remember when star trek was a well written show about people who liked each other? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWIpzImxAEQ Dr. Fishopolis fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Mar 7, 2020 |
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Big Mean Jerk posted:This is a bizarre complaint when the latest episode had Riker and Picard cradling each other on a lakeside dock bench like they were posing for the cover of an AARP magazine. i honestly liked all those bits on nepenthe, and would watch a whole season of picard and the riker family drinking wine and reminiscing about adventures. and this is also an odd comment considering the episode before this one showed icheb, who we last saw as a child, being vivisected. Dr. Fishopolis fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Mar 7, 2020 |
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Mar 7, 2020 02:19
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:DS9 stands up really well, but the ending is, if anything, worse when watched as a marathon. It becomes so much more apparent that they hosed everything to pursue Moore's god-bothering bollocks. It's pretty stupid, but it culminates in Mark Alaimo and Avery Brooks trying to out-ham each other in a papier mache cave set with a fog machine, which is the most Star Trek thing I can imagine.
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Powered Descent posted:But the pattern doesn't hold. You can't deny there's a hell of a difference between the way the Troi-Rikers are dealing with tragedy versus, say, how Raffi's holding up. They're all taking comfort in each other, helping and supporting each other, and still more than willing to help out old friends and new strangers. They aren't holed up in a space trailer inhaling snake leaf for years and years. Just look at the difference in the way Picard was received when he showed up on each doorstep. What annoys me is they could have avoided a lot of stupid poo poo by throwing in an easy couple lines. PICARD: Raffi, humanity has come a long way, you don't have to live like this. There's nothing stopping you from transporting to a treatment facility, the people there... RAFFI: There are plenty of things stopping me from doing that. You don't understand, Picard. The point being that depression and addiction still exist, and there are still people who refuse treatment for it, but it's mostly a solved problem. Without a couple of lines like these, it makes it seem like the entire social order of the Federation has collapsed.
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Mar 8, 2020 16:55
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Have you ever tried telling an addict to go to treatment that doesn't actually want too stop being high? That's a good question to ask with a script. A boring answer is: "people who don't succeed in Star Trek become marginalized drug addicts and nobody cares"
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Mar 8, 2020 17:16
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I can't believe the franchise has fallen to the point where brannon braga is a better choice for showrunner than anyone involved
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May 15, 2020 17:32
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it would be best if they weren't writing episodes while shooting, and also while not shooting.
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May 15, 2020 22:28
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Drink-Mix Man posted:At the risk of sounding some some defensive fanboy, I don't know it's fair to attack any of the creatives on the show at being bad at their jobs without knowing exactly what goes down at CBS. People have to put up with all kinds of insane pressures from all different areas to put on a show. Sometimes you just do the best you can with the demands placed on you. I'm sure Akiva Goldsman did his very best on Batman and Robin, and Jonah Hex, and the Paranormal Activities sequels. drat those CBS executives.
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Jun 2, 2020 06:40
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i'm watching Vikings and realizing if you just replaced the vikings with klingons and set the show during their first forays off of Qo'nos, you'd have a really fuckin great star trek show
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Jul 26, 2020 05:18
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Strong Convections posted:it's not okay to shove pornography in unexpectedly, why violence? that TNG porn with the picard impersonator was a way better star trek show than picard
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Jul 26, 2020 15:48
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nine-gear crow posted:I'm not talking about folks in this thread for people who dislike this show or that show for whatever reason, I mean the folks on twitter or wherever who straight up live in their rage about [pop culture thing]. I've never seen those sorts of people express a liking for anything, or at least a liking that's not also couched in some form of anger or hatred. If that at least doesn't give you pause, well... twitter is not real life, stop it.
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Aug 14, 2020 02:25
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:Alex Kurtzman Owes Me A Personal Apology For Discovery he kind of does, though
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Aug 14, 2020 05:37
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that sounds terrible, I'm just looking for a public flagellation. i'd settle for a heartfelt apology over the phone though.
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Aug 14, 2020 06:03
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To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Lower Decks. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head.
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turns out when you make a rick and morty star trek show you attract the most horrible grognard fans imaginable. who could have guessed!!!?
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Aug 28, 2020 18:57
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esperterra posted:ATTN STAR TRACK GOONS It is me, the one who is moving now.
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Sep 18, 2020 03:17
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Sep 18, 2020 06:29
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i'm experiencing double bij i think this is too much bij that's what I get for being the one who is moving now, I suppose Dr. Fishopolis fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Sep 18, 2020 |
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esperterra posted:oh oof your old av code broke when i added the tag, i'll fix you asap Hey, speaking of....
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Sep 18, 2020 06:54
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esperterra posted:Pretty sure I've got everyone who requested a tag either cleared or queued atm. Sorry about the spam goonfriends! hey listen anybody gives you poo poo lemme know ok? we're buds now you're cool
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finally watching the new disco i'm really, really trying to give this a shot. this is their chance to wipe the slate and do whatever they want. apparently what they want is late era russel t davies dr. who? this dialogue is, in the words of mst3k, Deep Hurting. edit: the character at the end who sat at a desk and wasted 40 years of his life doing absolutely nothing was a profound self-insert from the writing team Dr. Fishopolis fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Oct 22, 2020 |
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Butternubs posted:It feels like the past two episodes are two different shows. This episode was pretty enjoyable, not amazing but good for disco. Feels a lot more like star trek than ep 1 though and the rest of the crew are 100 times more watchable than the Burnham stuff. Burnham is the worst written character in a tv show, let alone a protagonist, in I don't know how long. I have zero clue what she wants, three seasons in. Her only direction seems to be "okay in this scene we want you to emote as hard as you can. doesn't matter what you're doing, just loving beam that poo poo at the poor seats so hard you look like a loving lunatic. perfect, got it in one, moving on" If I hadn't seen Martin-Green in other roles I'd think she's just a rookie actor, I'm afraid this role is doing her zero favors.
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