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happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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Still calling my original theory that Starfleet is secretly making hybrid databorgs as an army or to man ships.

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happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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They shat on Kirk and Spock canon to shoehorn in Burnham, they can definitely shoehorn Daniels and time travel out and replace it so Burnham (and Disco) being the only ones who ever did it.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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The Bloop posted:

The plus side is they can end the series with a giant gently caress YOU button to undo the entire thing

They don't have to.
The problem with Discovery after 1+2 is that there is nothing BIGGER for them to do in the time frame before Kirk ends up as being one of the best in Starfleet.
"Oh, you punched a Klingon over a table and stopped a single space base from being destroyed? Pike/Burnham/Discovery saved the universe TWICE within the last few years. Wait, you lost HOW MANY RED SHIRTS TODAY?"
TNG had to jump a generation (geddit?) to continue.
DS9 had to jump to the rear end end of the Federation to continue.
Voy had to jump to the rear end end of the galaxy.

And seeing the lore and 'future' history of the Federation is vaguely known, jumping past it allows them new poo poo to do and allows Pike/Burnham to save the universe over and over again.

I fully expect a slew of books/comics of the Federation v2.0 soon.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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Ramadu posted:

love to reset it by making a 90 year old robot picard who is just gonna die soon anyway

He dies naturally, local doctor scans him, finds out hes a bot, alerts Starfleet, they freak the gently caress out that Picard was actually a bot after trying to save the other bots, assume he was killed and replaced to fool them into letting them live, Starfleet and Romulan force go back to nuke the bot planet together.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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A well groomed cat after the Fedpoclypse?
Unpossible!

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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FlamingLiberal posted:

It looks like in the season preview that Discovery ends up on Earth?

You know that planet in the 2nd series with the transplanted pre-warp tech humans.
I'm calling it that they are now just about ready to join the Nu-Federation.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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The Bloop posted:

He won't have to say anything, they won't know anything about him

All he has to do is walk on from the right behind whoever is talking from Disco, oblivious to them, wave his tricorder about and look perplexed, and then walk off the left side.
Just 5-10 seconds of him not even talking.
It would be the best thing EVER to happen in Disco.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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Why should Discovery era tech be old in 32rd Century.

You are talking about space faring stuff, so every species that develops it will have its own version of whatever makes up their tech, isolinear chips, gel packs, pakled go faster stripes, whatever.
Pre-warp civilizations will be still finding their way into space all the time, so some will be still using that tech even in the future as that is all they have.
Can't see those with programmable matter just going, here take this near magic tech for your every needs including weapons, especially when we can't even have palm print identifaction on our guns with a thousand years ahead tech.
They should be seeing old tech being used all over the place.

So are pre-warp civilizations now hosed to be space faring?
loving scary that its now not possible to get off the ground or past your solar system.

happyhippy fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Oct 25, 2020

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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Khanstant posted:

just started episode 2 and is evil-georgieuo like a crewmember or something, they just gonna let her run around bc they cant stop her or like is there any reason to not assume shes going to be up to evil hijinx immediately?

She's commander level in Starfleet if I remember correctly.
And of course she will have wacky hi-jinx, if she can get 32nd tech back to her own universe and time, shes back in control of the empire

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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Epicurius posted:

Westerns?

In my Star Trek?

Discovery has gone too far!


I can see how TOS or TNG has them, there was very few scifi 60s shows that didn't have themed poo poo like westerns, or nazis, or french aristocrats , or US civil war.
It's a great way to do a cheap episode, just borrow what was in their costume department, save the money for something bigger and better in another.
And holodeck is the holodeck.

But like Firefly, designing future space cowboys or whatever is just off putting imo.
They are cosplayers.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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Hey, cant stop and help you guys and upgrade our ship with near 1000 year future tech, gotta go!

And I'm crying because my family is no longer alive. Time to go to a tree and pose with the rest of the bridge crew instead of find out where my descendants are, what happened to our homes, learn future tech, history, or anything important to survive.

Must have been funny for the owners of the old Starfleet HQ. Being asked to allow several people to access your land and watch them just go and hug a tree.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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Everyone loves Saru as he is the only one in the show who talks like a Star Trek character.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

I just realized that this era post-dates the time period where the Federation had TIME SHIPS. You'd think they'd scrape together enough dilithium to maybe stop the death of millions but idk

Nah, you see they totally banned time travel and everyone, yes EVERYONE, even those with time crystals or totally bad evil gangs, never used it again.

The Suluban made a mistake in going back in time, should have went forward

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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If hair is hi tech explain Tilly then.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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Cojawfee posted:

lol Remember when the Xindi were secretly building a weapon they were going to use to destroy Earth and then they tested their prototype on Earth?

And the earth destroying part was it phasering a strip of land about a kilometer wide for a few thousand kilometers.
Would take days to strip phaser the planet.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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Pretty weird to see that the pools of water that are essential to the survival of your race are in a cave that anyone can walk into. And open to the world.
Some janitor has to come along every now and again and net the Trillbat poo poo from the surface.
He sometimes finds a symbiant trapped in a plastic six pack of beer ring holder that he needs to cut out.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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Detmer should hate the poo poo out of Burnham.
As it was her that nearly got her killed and now part cyborg

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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loving excellent.
Was a good character in that episode, hope we see more of him if there is any Orion Syndicate poo poo coming up.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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Powered Descent posted:

I fell waaaay behind on Disco, but I caught up this weekend by binging the last six episodes.

That the burn is due to a mood swing.

Wut.

happyhippy fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Jan 4, 2021

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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Yeah, a DEEP SPACE station is loving closer to Earth than 60% of the rest of the federation.
It's closer than the Klingon homeworld
It's loving closer than Betazed.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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Nitrousoxide posted:

Why was Earth in sector 001 in the Borg's mapping system?

Because it sounded important for the episode.

If you were a Hive Mind spread out over hundreds of thousands of light years, where would the origin go for any map you do?
Maybe its better to set the origin at your target so everything attacking it knows the reference frame and not having to calculate vectors and poo poo from a point 900000 light years away in the opposite direction.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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In the future there will be little to no windows on your ship.
90% of you will be staring at walls.
Discovery must look like a luxury cruiser to them
"Your ensigns have THREE windows in their quarters?!?"

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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I hope Discovery never gets another season.
Let it die.
Biggest lol is that a universe destroying sentient AI ends up as kawaai anime robots.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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Did any other Starfleet vessel ever hail them while they were there?
Can't think of one. The only other captains we saw where standing around in the meeting room.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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Plenty of air in those turbolift shafts.

happyhippy
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xerxus posted:

Part of it probably has to do with them not wanting to waste money making new uniforms for all the cast and extras in Season 2.

https://twitter.com/TrekCore/status/1359330594619031562?s=19

Folks, it's Michael Burnham.

But what is Freddy Kruger doing with her?

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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One of the unnameables had some background explained just before she died.
Another had some background info explained just before it was useful for the plot 10 seconds later, and that was that she could hold her breath longer than anyone else.

The lizard guy who you see three times in the whole series has more know about him than half these characters.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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Nitrousoxide posted:

A crew of Harry Kims.

No, you knew Harry played an instrument, and was poo poo at dating.
Two more things than you know about the two guys that are not Stamets.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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In old trek each character would have had at least one or more of their own self episode to flesh out who they are to us.
The two not-Stamets may have had three or four lines of actual character development the whole three series, but hosed if I can remember it.

Edit: gently caress an Owo episode of her going to her Luddite family roots, that would be loving amazing to see.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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They also have written themselves into another corner, they have a weapon now that can cause the Burn v2.0 whenever they want.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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"Hello there, I am Captain Burnham. We are here on behalf of the Federation. Here is some free Dilthium, maybe you will consider joining us again"
"Woah, thanks, but isn't this still dangerous to use? We don't want to risk using it and explode again."
"No need to worry! We found out the source of the Burn, and have stopped it from happening again."
"What caused it?"
"Can't tell you."
"Why not, we need to know what killed millions of our own people. And I thought the Federation shared knowledge freely."
"It was caused by a child when he gets angry sad."
"WTF? So he's dead now then?"
"No, he is.."
"Imprisoned somewhere secure? At least sedated permanently?"
"Not exactly."
"And how did you get to our planet so quickly here, past our sensors, faster than current warp travel?"
"We have another way to travel."
"Faster than warp travel?"
"Yes."
"Does it use Dilithium?"
"No."
"Can you give it to us, this other tech."
"Can't. Not yet."
"Ok, so let me get this straight. You want us to join the Federation again, basically do what you tell us to do always, so we can fly about in ships slower than you, using a material that will explode when a guy you control stubs his toe?"

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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And its set after the Time Travel period.
"Now that we know where the Burn happened, and when it happened down to the millisecond, how about we use Time Travel to prevent it."
"No we agreed not to."




Elsewhere:


Daniels: "And here is where the Federation ends, trillions dies, the galaxy is mostly in ruins, because we all agreed not to fix it."
Archer: "So why should I bother fixing poo poo in my time now?"
Daniels: "Don't worry, a human born a 100 years after you will inadvertently cause the thing that destroys the Federation, but will also fix it back again. Slowly. Very slowly. Trillions upon trillions still dead and living in poverty.
Archer: "Are you high?"

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happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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Adira should have the number 2 or Neelix type position on the bridge.
Only one from that time period, and has a loving Admiral in her head.
But her sum total helping the ship was to replace something that was working already to something that worked just a little bit easier for Stamets.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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Wait, they made Booker a higher up bridge crew member than Adria.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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Arquinsiel posted:

Star Trek and Stargate used to do regular afternoon rotations on Sky One back in the early-mid 2000s. Just starting on episode one and running through sequentially for the whole show. It would always catch me by surprise when they'd air the first episode of Stargate uncensored at like 4PM.

Used to piss me off though that they would repeat the same episodes that was on during the week at the weekend.
You would be surfing, oh poo poo Voyager is on in 5, get excited, and gently caress its the one from two days ago.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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Der Kyhe posted:

That small annoying "kid genius" that they pick up from Earth in E3.

She's not a genius, shes an average for her time. She just has 900 years of tech knowledge but they don't imply that in the show.
She looks likes a genius as she knows future tech better than the rest, so can suggest better solutions or do them quicker.
It would be like some from Betchley Park coming into our time, took up code breaking now, and are amazed when we suggest to use a computer, download an app, and use that to attack decipher it instead of slide rulers, pencils and paper.
She was a front line first response security guard against local space pirates.
They only really took her as she has a Starfleet Admiral inside her spleen to show Starfleet they were legit.

It would be good if they had small parts show to show they are behind in tech knowledge.
Like Stamets/Tilly suggest something, they all suck teeth like a car mechanic saying its a big job yadda yadda, and Adria just goes 'done'.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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twistedmentat posted:

The answer to "Why isn't everything a holodeck" doesn't work because if the power goes offline, oops, there everything goes. Holodecks as needed is a good idea but having even the tables and chairs be holograms, that might have issues.

That's why I found the programmable matter floors at Starfleet Central a bit too much.
Like dude is a loving Admiral, yet his office only exists when he is in it, if that is his office. Does someone else use that same space as a toilet.
And when Discovery first lands, one of them says there is a holographic type ship.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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Payndz posted:

And yet the computer never bothers to notify the command staff if, say, the captain unexpectedly vanishes from the ship. :iiam:

Maybe would cause more problems than it solves.
Sure they may get abducted and butt diddled every few weeks, but how often more does an engineer crawl around the shielded jeffries tubes to fix something.
A constant watch on command staff maybe would be better.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

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O'Brien loving around in transporter room 4, a program to teleport a person in front of every door on the ship just before they beam down to the planet.

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Feb 21, 2005

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Khanstant posted:

i got a feeling the next season of Discovery will be the Good one, all the haters are going to memory-hole s1-3 and become straight up fanatics for season 4, tightclops straight up cries at the season premiere holy poo poo

They spore jump to a distress call, turns out its a Borg cube.
They of course don't know wtf the Borg are, so investigate, get assimilated, and the series ends with 50000 borg cubes spore jumping to Starfleet central led by Burnhamicus.

happyhippy fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Jul 25, 2021

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