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Spinz
Jan 7, 2020



Side note I think the Pfizer vax making you have more vivid dreams chatter I've read may be true, at least for me it certainly is. I's no big deal I'm just saying certainly happening right now.

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HugeGrossBurrito
Mar 20, 2018


Spinz posted:

Side note I think the Pfizer vax making you have more vivid dreams chatter I've read may be true, at least for me it certainly is. I's no big deal I'm just saying certainly happening right now.

Yeah I think thatís legit my dreams have been like hours long and intense

Spinz
Jan 7, 2020



HugeGrossBurrito posted:

Yeah I think thatís legit my dreams have been like hours long and intense

It was Norman Reedus for me who was it for you?

HugeGrossBurrito
Mar 20, 2018


Spinz posted:

It was Norman Reedus for me who was it for you?

Lol heís a friend of some friends telling them this anyway ironically enough it was like personal zombie movie stuff. Real rough.

Spinz
Jan 7, 2020



HugeGrossBurrito posted:

Lol heís a friend of some friends telling them this anyway ironically enough it was like personal zombie movie stuff. Real rough.

Wait a minute you're saying you're going to tell someone who knows Norman Reedus about my dream about me and him?


Good night

HugeGrossBurrito
Mar 20, 2018


Norman Reedus controls all of our dreams no I donít have any sources for this he just does

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013

HAIL SATAN



My pre-existing germphobia meant I didn't really change my handwashing habits during the pandemic, although it did spur me to only use my pinky for point-of-sale machines and the like, and then to treat that finger as UNCLEAN. I drive around after a shopping strip with my pinky raised off the steering wheel like some Victorian dandy.

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic

wilfredmerriweathr posted:

Yeah I'm basically permanently programmed to sanitize my hands after being in public at this point.

Which probably isn't a bad thing?

The nice thing about health anxiety from latent OCD is that pressing elevator buttons with my knuckles and opening doors without directly using my hands was comfortable habit long before 2020.

For awhile it was nice not being the only person assiduously wiping down the shopping cart or applying hand sanitizer.

Raskolnikov2089 fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Apr 13, 2021

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

You need to click the icon.





CaptainSarcastic posted:

My pre-existing germphobia meant I didn't really change my handwashing habits during the pandemic, although it did spur me to only use my pinky for point-of-sale machines and the like, and then to treat that finger as UNCLEAN. I drive around after a shopping strip with my pinky raised off the steering wheel like some Victorian dandy.

I have a pen that's got a capacitive stylus on the tip too that you can use when the pen is retracted. I've mostly gone back to hand sanitizer because the places I go to that's pretty plentiful, but I make sure to take it with me just in case.

Fluffy Bunnies
Jan 9, 2009

FUCK





Charliegrs posted:

If your dad is traveling to places like Arizona and Florida don't depend on either place ever requiring proof of vaccinations for people entering. AZ is run by mega chuds and Florida is run by the US version of Bolsonaro.

I live in Georgia, it's like third worst.


Raskolnikov2089 posted:

The nice thing about health anxiety from latent OCD is that pressing elevator buttons with my knuckles and opening doors without directly using my hands was comfortable habit long before 2020.

For awhile it was nice not being the only person assiduously wiping down the shopping cart or applying hand sanitizer.

I paused midway through gassing up my car, realizing how stupid it is that I'm willing to touch a credit card pad in a grocery store but not a gas pump or a credit card pad at a gas pump.

Lolie
Jun 4, 2010



A man in his 80s has died from covid in Queensland. We had a good run, but drat.

There's also been a case identified on a cargo ship off the WA coast. The ship has been refused permission to dock, but things could get chaotic.

Nam Taf
Jun 25, 2005

I am Fat Man, hear me roar!



Lolie posted:

There's also been a case identified on a cargo ship off the WA coast. The ship has been refused permission to dock, but things could get chaotic.
That's pretty standard for WA's cases. They get so many from that, being the first region into which ships enter on that side of the continent.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013

HAIL SATAN



Raskolnikov2089 posted:

The nice thing about health anxiety from latent OCD is that pressing elevator buttons with my knuckles and opening doors without directly using my hands was comfortable habit long before 2020.

For awhile it was nice not being the only person assiduously wiping down the shopping cart or applying hand sanitizer.

Cthulu Carl posted:

I have a pen that's got a capacitive stylus on the tip too that you can use when the pen is retracted. I've mostly gone back to hand sanitizer because the places I go to that's pretty plentiful, but I make sure to take it with me just in case.

I can't use most hand sanitizer because of eczema, so I've gotten adept at Not Touching Things. Even the soap in a lot of public restrooms will set it off, so I have to be careful. I used the sanitizer towelettes at grocery stores religiously after reading some of the research of how staggeringly filthy they get, so that was already a long-standing habit for me. Handicap-accessible buttons hit with my elbow are one of my usual things. If I have to push a door open it's with my sleeve or in a place that obviously doesn't get touched, like really high up the door. And on those rare occasions I have to let someone else use my pen it gets a thorough disinfecting afterward.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
i like nice words


HugeGrossBurrito posted:

you are basically contradicting your own source but sure. Of course it is possible of course wash your drat hands but its very unlikely that new zealand poo poo was the result of fomites, its irresponsible to suggest as much.
I'm literally just repeating what NZ and CDC official sources are saying. I'm not making poo poo up, it's what the actual scientists studying it have said.

We all agree droplet and aerosol infection are much more likely than fomite.

You know how denialists are like "99% of people with covid survive!!" and sane people are like "okay but that means over 3 million would die in the US alone, and that's bad."

If 99% of cases are spread by droplet or aerosol, even if only 1% are transmitted by fomite, that's about 32,000 cases in the US alone. And that's bad.

To be clear, I spoke up when someone actively advised "don't clean surfaces in your home that randos have touched." That's way more irresponsible than "go ahead and wipe it off," so I'm not sure why the pushback is on me.

Green Nail Polish
Nov 15, 2020


Just listened to the new TWIV and the latest CDC report estimates that about 1 in 10,000 covid cases are a result of fomite transmission.

Not nothing, but not an area of great concern either.

frogge
Apr 7, 2006




Spinz posted:

Side note I think the Pfizer vax making you have more vivid dreams chatter I've read may be true, at least for me it certainly is. I's no big deal I'm just saying certainly happening right now.

Mine have been pretty trippy lately too but I get woken up a bunch at night and the early morning because of pets and when my spouse gets up before me for work. All that seems to affect the weirdness of the dreams when I do get back to sleep.
I couldn't say if the final shot the other day and recent dream quality are related. It comes and goes.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you

Fun Shoe

Lot of people ITT don't seem to realise vivid dreams are one of the most common symptoms of a fever, and can also be caused by pain in the arm on the side you normally sleep on.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

Because if I tell you, you'll tell your friends, your friends are callin' me on the horn all the time, I gotta show up at shopping centers for openings and sign autographs and shit like that and it makes my life a *hell*. Okay? A living hell.


Hippie Hedgehog posted:

TBF with the number of cases seen in Canada, having strict border quarantine would basically not accomplish anything. It works well if there is not already widespread domestic contagion.

Strict border quarantine is also probably what a pre-Schengen europe would have done pretty early on in 2020. But no, that'd be illegal... Can't limit the free flow of labor across borders!

It would have made some sense to implement a raft of strict mitigation restrictions including traveler quarantine and lockdowns back in February when cases were dropping and there was maybe a chance of getting things under control if they could keep the downward momentum going:



Of course implementing a 3 day quarantine on only a fraction of the returned travelers is pretty much just security theatre regardless of whatever else is happening, it would have to be at least 14 days quarantine if they were being serious about it and even then that would only catch 95% of infections since the incubation period can last as long as 20 days in a small percentage of cases.

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greazeball
Feb 4, 2003





Pennywise the Frown posted:

This stuff is really worrying. Canada is known in the US to be pretty chill and seeing so many young people rise up against their own health is just...... mind boggling.

Seeing the riot police is giving me loving PTSD from being here in Kenosha from people getting murdered here less than a mile from me and the national guard and police started stomping poo poo lol.

I hope you guys remain safe and it dies out quick. This escalation isn't promising.

I wouldn't say that all of them are rising up against their own health necessarily. I don't know what it's like in Quebec but I'm a college professor in Switzerland and the students here are absolutely getting the short lovely end of the stick and I can tell they're really reaching the end of their rope. School is online now and has been for most of the last 12 months. Except "we're not an online school" so there have been very few meaningful changes to the teaching and examination methods of in-person learning which just absolutely sucks for the students (and those professors who want to adapt to this new situation but just get steamrolled by the Zoom lecture gang). Then a lot of them are working too and get dragged into the office or into public-facing roles by bosses who are ready to "get back to normal". So school loving sucks, work sucks, all of the bars, cafes and clubs are closed and there's a ban on gatherings of more than 5-10 people. Young people have been completely neglected in basically all aspects of the COVID response here and they're sick of it. They occasionally get fed little bullshit nuggets about how we can just go back to class and everything will be fine but it seems like they aren't really thinking it through. When I ask my students if they'd rather come back to school in person or have bars/clubs/cafes open sooner it's like they never even considered that one thing might delay the other. Meanwhile our finance minister is blowing smoke up everyone's rear end about how we can't afford to give any more COVID support money because "this money belongs to the next generation and we can't just take it away from them" when everyone knows the public pension crisis is looming and he doesn't give a gently caress about the next generation at all.

I guess I don't really have a point other than it must really really loving suck to be in your 20s and trying to get your adult life started and then all this poo poo happens. Lockdowns work, but the messaging from the health authorities just hasn't been good enough to keep everyone focused on the goal of making it out alive.

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