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Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

I take this with a grain of salt but one of my patients has a wife working as an ICU nurse in Chicago where the husband and wife were noted as infected, with the latest news being they haven't reported the two grandkids also being infected (and having gone to school for several days before being quarantined), as well as the effects being much, much worse than is being reported.

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Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Saros posted:

Considering the symptoms seem to range from none to death in what way are they worse than reported? Also are you trying to say the kids have it or not?

The nurse stated the kids do have it, and it wasn't caught for quarantine until several days into symptoms. The patient didn't go into detail of how it was worse though.

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

I feel like a story about a goon's patient's wife's patient's wife's grandchildren is not a very reliable source. my uncle that works at nintendo mcdonalds told me mario has it and if you beat the game exactly 100 times mario will come out of the screen and give it to you.

Hence the grain of salt. Sorry he couldn't get his wife to violate HIPPA harder for you on the something awful forums.

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Source4Leko posted:

No but you see these people are being inconvenienced. The American government needs to do whatever it can so these white Americans vacations are rescued.

I have a bit of empathy for these people that aren't retired. Given they are Americans, what this means is that being stuck on a cruise ship for too long means they'll be fired, meaning possibly no insurance anymore on top of no income, meaning they're hosed for life from here on out due to a non lethal disease.

America!

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

bob dobbs is dead posted:

yes. looting, not rioting

With everyone wearing masks it'll be harder to ID me too! Hoping for mass looting in Chicago, all the police will be busy at grocery stores while I grab some nice stuff from Guitar Center :getin:

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Pistol_Pete posted:

The gruesome US healthcare system combined with a work culture utterly intolerant of sickness absence could have been tailor-made to ensure that the virus spreads as widely as possible.

Yup. My wife is fortunate that she can work from home, but if it gets bad I'm in healthcare so lol I will get it anyway.

My plan is to just not go out in public much outside of work if it gets bad. I've stocked up on a ton of beans, rice, and pantry stuff...which I normally do every 3 months anyway, home cook crew represent.

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

I had to unfriend someone on Facebook touting that coronavirus symptoms are actually a result of 5g signals blocking oxygen saturation into our blood cells and to wake up sheeple.

:psyduck:

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

One of my patients is next door neighbors to the family that has it in Arlington Heights illinios.

Maybe I will be the first goon with it!

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Koirhor posted:

Opiates are the only medicine that truly stops a cough. DXM sort of works but you have to take tripping your balls off dosage to get the same effect therapeutically.

Not seeing a problem with this.

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

This is 2020's "lost fingat" in real time baby.

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

I just got new 15 inch PA speakers so if, being a healthcare worker, I get quarantined in the next few weeks I'm gonna blast that poo poo as much as I like.

Can't evict me if I'm quarantined bitch!

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Wife just got an email this morning that the building she works in has a confirmed case. Looks like I need to buy a new router because she gets to work from home now starting tomorrow.

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Well the Italian medical chief died of covid-19. We are so turbofucked.

Can't see doctors or specialists when they're all dead!

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

I'm only hearing it on the radio but trump sounds kind of, uh, not great.

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Drove by the chicago costco...parking lot all full, all lot lanes not moving, people parked out on the main roads (clybourne and diversey) blocking all normal traffic.

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Holy moly

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Got an email this morning from the president of my hospital system, noting anyone found taking cavi wipes (the good surface cleaning wipes that kills drat near anything and shouldn't touch skin for 2 minutes after) will be immediately terminated.

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

When are the riots and looting? Need some new speakers, I'm tired of waiting!

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Working outpatient therapy I assumed some would cancel.

Nope, instead caseload increased by almost 30% with shorter appointments because the hospital wants to "get them in while we can."

Also they are not cancelling elective joint surgeries "for financial wellness of the system".

:rolleyes:

(North chicago suburbs btw)

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Damnit starting March 18 all gyms are to be closed in Illinois, there goes my good gains!

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

MarcusSA posted:

Yeah this was posted in the other thread... click through because there are quoted parts.

Thanks I'm actually scared for once wtf

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Had an emergency Skype meeting for all our therapy clinics in chicago, and were told "we still need to serve people, even those that aren't immediately post op so practice social distancing, we are staying open full hours".

When asked how to social distance when we often are 1 to 2 feet from our patients and we often have more than a dozen people in the gym at a time, we were told "just figure it out, if they bring kids tell them to leave them outside in the car."

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Trying to get more info, Illinois friends in trade sectors (one automotive, another in plumbing) have been in meetings with union reps who say to get all affairs in order by tomorrow night as dept of labor is considering a lockdown for the chicagoland area.

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Illinois has jumped from 160 to 288 in one day.

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Baller Time posted:

Does that mean they had 128 tests ready?

They've added a lot more in-state testing facilities and are able to churn out an additional 150 tests a day I believe, according to Pritzker.

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

I just want to say on the drive to and from work this whole week, the highways of Illinois are already halfway to Mad Max. Going 90-95 on the open as hell lanes and STILL getting passed by people, no highway patrols in sight, it's great!

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

thomawesome posted:

Chicago is going to be shut down tomorrow. Lightfoot is giving a conference at 5, but I'm about 95% sure the city will be under further locked lockdown starting tomorrow.

I still doubt it, they just said it's about schools and businesses/economics.

I have to drive to work every day anyway so doesn't affect me :smith:

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

thomawesome posted:

I work for the city, and our office is like 90% going to shut down tomorrow. The Daley Center and Thompson center are shut down right now, so 🤷‍♂️

I was expecting that speech to be a little more restricting than it was.

I'm sticking to my prediction since I've been right on all of them the past 2 weeks:

1) Once we hit over 600 cases AND double digit deaths, Pritzker is going to enact shelter mode.

2) This will happen either Friday, or, at worst with people doing dumb poo poo again on the weekend, Monday.

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Called it:

https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/gov-pritzker-to-issue-shelter-in-place-order-for-illinois-beginning-saturday/

Chicago shelter order starting for tomorrow, news conference at 3 today.

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Welp. All us outpatient therapists are being shuttled to inpatient now to help with the load for the next 2 weeks at minimum.

Tomorrow I spend 4 hours on the floor, and the next 4 helping set up ED tents in the parking lot :smith:

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Can I just vent? The hospital system I work for in Illinois has ceased testing anyone that isn't a super high risk and shut down their drive through testing. Fine, whatever. Tests are low I get that.

Except they are also limiting tests for inpatients who aren't "very high risk", meaning we have no way of knowing or figuring our appropriate PPE. If someone has the right symptoms for covid-19 and are suspected but will not receive the test (ie-anyone under 60 without complications) we could still be going in their room without proper PPE, and the WORST part is the email I just got that because of low stock of PPE, we are not to wear it around non-confirmed cases, not even wearing gowns and gloves for loving confirmed MRSA cases and to "practice additional hand hygiene", which doesn't doesn't make any god drat sense and will just spread other poo poo as we go room to room.

In about 2 weeks a good chunk of the staff is going to be infected as gently caress and bringing it to their families, but sure glad our CEO makes the most of any healthcare CEO in the midwest region by a magnitude of loving 10.

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Waroduce posted:

an old flame of mine is a doctor in the ER at a hopsital outside of Chicago and they have been out of PPE since tuesday. Their ICU is full, but only 30% suspected Corona. They expect the entire staff to get it and are moving toward a 2 week on 2 week off model.

e: I work for a company that provides operational software to behavioral health, mental health and substance abuse facilities with a small smattering of general care offices. Our facilities have had a 12% uptick in admissions and a 2 point drop in discharges. Our call center is up 30% support call volume and we are slammed with the new hotness in the industry TELEHEALTH.

Luckily on the PT side of things telehealth isn't really a thing, and we are opening all outpatient clinics once a week for medical necessity patients (immediate post op, PROM, recent neuro ie stroke patients, etc), but the overall trajectory on keeping staff safe I'd abysmal.

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Tried going grocery shopping in the northern chicago suburbs on my lunch break.

Walmart out of all meat except expensive fish. Trader Joe's mostly cleaned out, staff at door only letting 10 people in the store at a time, limit of 2 of any item.

Jewel Osco out of almost all meat, cheese, and dairy as well, limit of 10 items of ANYTHING per transaction, meaning if you have 11 different items you have to choose one to put back, as I heard a family yelling about at checkout.

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Cacafuego posted:

:hmbol: that doctors and nurses are getting fired by their shifty hospitals for daring to speak about how their shifty hospitals treat them during this, the biggest and worst medical disaster the world has seen in at least 100 years. Just :lol:

I’m honestly surprised there hasn’t been waves of walkouts since they usually pay well enough to have saved some gently caress you money and the job is secure enough especially now.

Because most us give a poo poo about the patients.

Healthcare workers, not hospitals if that wasnt clear.

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Just open up the gyms and haircut places again for essentials only, that's all I really want.

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

wilderthanmild posted:

I know I've seen speculation it might also be related to drunk driving by people who are just drinking constantly with all their new found spare time.

Maybe I'll go out for a spin and see how terrifying the roads are with only morons on them.

As someone who drives 60 miles each day for work (mostly on the highway), I attribute it to the fact that even going 85-90 mph you will get honked at and passed. People are absolutely tearing rear end around the roads since they're far emptier, even at rush hour.

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Can't trump force the meat workers back to work just like Reagan did with the airline workers? Honest question I don't know the answer to, especially since a strong union was involved in that incident as well.

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Went to home depot today, and after waiting in line for like 30 minutes to get in I got to witness no less than 3 people refusing to wear a mask and one of them threatening to sue the employees for unconstitutional discrimination. Well worth the trip!

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Well I got the antibody test at the hospital I work at, and tested positive. So either I was asymptomatic the whole time, or the really bad sick time I had in early February was it. Then again our tests are at BEST 70% accurate and sometimes it takes 3 tests over 2 weeks to confirm a positive for patients who show absolutely key symptoms so who the gently caress knows. Which is great when we wear a level down of PPE that doesn't really do much and then staff has to be quarantined for 4 days to see what happens.

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Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

There's no way cancelations of smaller events and the closure of everything goes past June, even the most careful well meaning people I know are "over it", and without some serious bailouts a lot of hospitals won't make it either. PPE and furlough pay are massive, MASSIVE money sinks when electives have been on hold for almost 2 months now.

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