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Milkfred E. Moore posted:it was bizarrely out of character for every single character involved, plus rushed as hell. even when i was a kid, that bit of the storyline felt like an editor or something tapped stackpole on the shoulder and said, hey, buddy, we've got to make a few changes here. Stackpole, writing characters doing stuff that don't make sense? Whaaaa?
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2020 00:01 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 23:06 |
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Hazo posted:Karl Urban is really getting around in big franchises. I guess Stackpole no longer has the pull to make them literally put him in the game as his self-insert character like they did for the CCG. Behold, the man so charismatic and handsome that every woman falls in love with him and every man begs to be his friend.
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2020 01:12 |
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Linux Pirate posted:Is this another case of a sci-fi author inserting a wired fetish in theirs stories? Because even though pissing and making GBS threads your pants is apart of aerospace history, I can't help but feel someone used this an an excuse to get them pampers into star wars. Chris Claremont's fetish for mind control
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2020 09:13 |
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I genuinely don't understand the fascination with Boba Fett. He stands around, makes a single delivery and then dies like a bitch.
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# ¿ Dec 8, 2020 19:47 |
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Polaron posted:Bring back Ooryl! It's amazing how he managed to come off as pretty likeable and interesting despite being paired with Stackpole's self-insert. I think he might genuinely be the best character Hackpole ever made.
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2020 04:18 |
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fartknocker posted:Being paired with Corran meant he got among the most development of any character in those books, since Stackpole couldn’t ignore him like he tended to do with half the squadron. That's pretty normal for him. Also, every other character in the squadron seems to only exist in relation to Corran, because Stackpole can't fathom a world where you aren't totally infatuated with him. Like the guy who exists only to be his rival and then fucks off when Corran is established as being the best in the squadron, or the girl who only exists to be clearly evil and horny for him.
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2020 04:53 |
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Polaron posted:Why the gently caress do I remember all of this. Because Wraith Squadron is a pretty good trilogy
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2020 05:07 |
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Yeah whatever would we do without all of the distinctive and memorable character moments of Corran Horn like
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2020 05:55 |
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Stackpole wrote both those scenes.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2020 01:43 |
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...Tedious diatribes about how "politics" are bad but soldiers are good?
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2020 00:14 |
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Was that before or after he was a puppet mouthpiece for a Libertarian author who had mediocre "adventures" in between rants about how terrible government is? This was in the Vong books
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# ¿ Dec 31, 2020 23:54 |
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I think having a problem with Lando is a thing more among people who had to wait the three years between Empire and Jedi, rather than just popping the next one in the VCR. Yeah, he goes back and tries to fix things, but still the end of the movie is this new guy betraying our pals from the Star War
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2021 01:20 |
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*two of the worst books (non-Kevin J. Anderson division)
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2021 07:01 |
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Thrawn mostly works because Zahn is a more clever writer than most of the people doing a Star War. That's all there is to it, really. Anderson tried to do exactly the same thing with Daala and she's a joke.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2021 19:50 |
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I believe that swarm of microbes was called maxi-clorians
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2021 10:03 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:The biggest line of reasoning I've seen is that Jedi weren't necessarily all that common throughout the galaxy. There are plenty of planets where Jedi almost never visit, and especially during the clone wars, all the Jedi were busy fighting the war and even less visible to the common man. The Clone Wars TV show established that the Jedi were big heroes that the Republic constantly talked up, though. Sure, most people in the MCU during WWII never met Captain America, but they sure as poo poo know who he is. Some Goon posted:The problem is simple, too many jedi in the prequels. It's hard to be a band of itinerant monk-knights when you've got a sweet highrise in the capital of the galaxy. This is the correct answer. George Lucas knew lightsabers got people excited so he had a million Jedi on screen all the loving time.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2021 04:39 |
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Everything in Star Wars is based on what George Lucas remembers from being a kid, so going to a movie only cost two space pennies and it was probably the only thing poor street kids could do to have fun.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2021 05:28 |
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it is a benevolent omnipresent force that guides people when the plot needs it to, and then other times it's just an animistic concept that exists as part of nature. It's what you get when your ideas are a boomer's concept of Eastern religion combined with a need to have supernatural intervention get you out of corners you've written yourself into.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2021 20:14 |
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We know now that the choke is telekinetic because we know that the force lets you do that, but if they gone in a different way in Empire, it would not have been hard to say that Vader was using his power to convince his body that he was choking. We don't see his neck getting squeezed or anything like that.
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2021 00:01 |
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Yeah, but he was making his body do that himself, there's no like "invisible rope around his neck" going on. I think it's a clever bit of ambiguity.
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2021 00:31 |
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George Lucas says "goon-ga" and he's a complete moron so it's safe to assume he's doing that wrong too
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2021 07:42 |
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The part where Luke turns to the dark side because Sheev says "your dad did it" was unfathomably dumb and even if the rest of the writing was a masterpiece, it would still be a bad story
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2021 06:14 |
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I think my dad has the same opinion of Star Wars as Harrison Ford does.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2021 06:17 |
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Sodomy Hussein posted:I don't need elite pilots as the Empire, I need enough recruits to blot out the sun with TIE fighters to get across that I have a 100-to-1 numerical advantage, using fighters built by the lowest bidder. "This plan will never fail, unless my enemy happens to have a legendary pilot famous for his ability to get 100 kills in a single battle! He'd be some kind of... hundred-man slayer, or something. There's no way that guy could exist, though."
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# ¿ Apr 16, 2021 22:13 |
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Jedis have been Super Saiyans since at least RotJ, just make your peace with it.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2021 02:19 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:Lucas was actually pretty restrained with the supernatural abilities of jedi, much like how Tolkien was pretty restrained with how much magic Gandalf does. In RotJ Luke's got a couple super jumps and a little ESP, and that's it. Even in the prequels, the jedi didn't actually sling around very much magic by the standards of like superhero media. There absolutely wasn't the thing that happened with DBZ where powers just get inflated indefinitely until nothing really means anything because everything is so powerful that it's too abstract to meaningfully depict. They go from "Obi-Wan has the power of suggestion and Vader chokes one guy" to "Sheevy P bukkakes lightning all over everything" in the original trilogy. That's a pretty ludicrous ramp-up, not even getting into super-speed and a force-blast--struggle in the prequels.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2021 03:37 |
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wdarkk posted:There is actually an explanation that makes perfect sense for the Eagles thing, though. Also gandalf needed the Fellowship to go to Rohan and Gondor to fix their problems.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2021 06:06 |
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Humans are what happens when a Yoda fucks a Hurt, you're welcome.
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2021 04:33 |
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No they told her. The argument about the names is what Wedge says to her.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2021 17:43 |
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Corran Horn would be voiced by Michael A. Stackpole because he's not even pretending it isn't his self-insert
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2021 04:41 |
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Also some authors used them as an excuse to go "maybe the empire wasn't so bad and we should make friends with them."
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2021 17:36 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:After the outbreak of the Clone Wars, the Republic extended membership to the distant planet of Kamino in order to safeguard the source of the clone army, and Kamino was granted a full seat in the senate as well. This is who they sent as their senator. Any time someone tries to suggest that some theory based entirely on circumstantial background poo poo is what Lucas "intended" I point to stuff like this and Nute Gunray. George Lucas has the mind of a child.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2021 04:45 |
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Hazo posted:Bitch did you actually watch the movies? The fact that so many Star Wars “fans” are turbo chuddy is still really weird to me. They also have the same inability to look at things beyond the surface that Lucas does.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2021 22:13 |
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fartknocker posted:A good chunk of I, Jedi is devoted to pointing out the issues at Luke’s academy. When your trilogy is so badly written that even Stackpole can dunk all over you with impunity.
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# ¿ Oct 7, 2021 02:32 |
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Jazerus posted:you can make fun of him all you want but the zahn/stackpole/allston version of star wars was basically peak star wars Zahn and Allston, maybe.
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2021 08:24 |
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Jazerus posted:the whole "han acting like a rich awkward stepdad" thing with kyp is just weird as hell The parts where Anderson tells us that Han is thinking about how cool Kyp is and how much he wants to be best friends with him is maybe the most pathetic thing I've ever seen in print. And I work at a newspaper.
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2021 05:54 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 23:06 |
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Kotor 2 = "what if we'd all be normal people and get rid of this force thing that always restart the same war for 40,000 years or something" said your contrarian friend Kreia, is what it was supposed to be but lol nope, this is star wars so her real name is Darth (Be)traya' and you hit her and the game ends like Fallout 1. BIS finished KotOR 1 and was like "okay so how did killing one guy fix all the damage from the war?" and that's why they put G0-T0 in the game
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