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The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames
email me if you want a pizza roll

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The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014
i was promised a pizza roll if i left a comment

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

Wouldn't the pizza roll be gross by the time it got shipped here?

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
I heard that initially he actually would do that

SHISHKABOB
Nov 30, 2012

Fun Shoe
I'm a pretty big fan of pizza rolls to be perfectly honest with you.

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

Roth posted:

Wouldn't the pizza roll be gross by the time it got shipped here?

not significantly more gross than they start out as.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

Maybe they put the pizza roll in carbon freeze to preserve it?

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames
lol if you don't dry age your pizza rolls anyway

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Roth posted:

Maybe they put the pizza roll in carbon freeze to preserve it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKT7bx-fmtk

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

A HORNY SWEARENGEN posted:

email me if you want a pizza roll

your email's not on your profile. let me know

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

Hello, you know what to do. Use the meat cleaver and swing hard to break the bone. Put the body in the dumpster and be careful not to get any blood on the carpet, cause it doesn't wash out.

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

Whoa, what's up with this dudes face!!!!!!!!

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

really queer Christmas posted:

Whoa, what's up with this dudes face!!!!!!!!

He went up the ventilation shaft, duh.

mallratcal
Sep 10, 2003


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpvcjAhBabA

Saint Drogo
Dec 26, 2011

More than nine months after its theatrical release, RedLetterMedia’s review of Star Wars: The Last Jedi is here, and it’s just as over the top and tone-deaf as you’d expect.

RedLetterMedia first gained notoriety nearly a decade ago for a 70-minute review (split up over seven videos) of The Phantom Menace, and at the time it received high praise. The reviews are done by a character called Mr. Plinkett, a self-aware film critic who’s been called “psychotic” in the past, and even if they arrived long after a film’s theatrical and home release, they’re still highly anticipated by their fans.

Mr. Plinkett’s Last Jedi review clocks in at just over 58 minutes, nearly an hour shorter than his review of The Force Awakens, which is one of the few things it has going for it. And early on, Mr. Plinkett acknowledges that some of his criticisms of The Last Jedi have already been covered ad nauseam by countless other YouTube videos. He makes a couple of interesting connections to Star Trek: The Next Generation and National Lampoon’s Vacation, but a lot of what he says is exactly the kind of thing we’ve heard before—complaints about logic in a space opera where the Force exists at all. It not only takes character arcs and plot points to task but also director/screenwriter Rian Johnson for how he “inverted expectations.”

It’s framed just differently enough for some viewers to call it new and exciting with a couple of false equivalencies thrown in for good measure. Like previous Mr. Plinkett reviews, it not only incorporates what ended up in the film, it also includes behind-the-scenes footage, a documentary about the making of the film, and deleted scenes to argue his points.

Watching his review is unlikely to change anyone’s mind, although that’s usually not the aim of a piece of criticism. Those who hated the movie will feel justified by the criticism while those who loved it will get exasperated by the review’s cherry-picking of certain arguments.

RedLetterMedia released Mr. Plinkett’s review several months after The Last Jedi was released theatrically, digitally, and even on Netflix. The delay in its release doesn’t necessarily hurt RedLetterMedia, especially since it relies on the kind of footage and material not available until film’s home release; the video has more than 627,000 views as of press time and has reached the front page of Reddit.

But it also arrives close to a year into the backlash and discourse against a movie that didn’t give some viewers the story they envisioned or confirm their theories, and many of the attacks have been ugly and personal. They’ve retaliated against Johnson, directed racist and sexist comments toward Kelly Marie Tran for months until she deleted all of her Instagram posts, and they used Mark Hamill’s initial misgivings about the film to justify their hatred of it. The months-long backlash has even gotten comparisons to Gamergate over how a small but vocal subsection of viewers have weaponized their complaints of a film to attack the people who worked on it (or are associated with Lucasfilm) and those who enjoyed it under the guise of criticizing it.

The kind of meta-commentary that RedLetterMedia reviews once offered no longer works as well as it hopes because some viewers, whether because they’re unfamiliar with the Mr. Plinkett character or they agree with his points, will take him at his word, starting the backlash cycle all over again.

The review saves much of its ire toward the characters and their actions—largely attributing that to Johnson’s screenplay and Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy—but it’s not a far leap for some of The Last Jedi’s most vocal dissenters to take complaints about Rose Tico, Finn, Poe Dameron, and Amilyn Holdo that Mr. Plinkett resurfaces and direct that toward Johnson and actors like Tran and Laura Dern. Again. And at this point, RedLetterMedia’s Last Jedi review is almost white noise, albeit one that adds to the flames of the larger problem without engaging its own role in keeping the fire burning.

should be added to OP imo

mallratcal
Sep 10, 2003


Someone post the 108 page rebuttal of Mr. Plinkett*


*please don't

First of May
May 1, 2017
🎵 Bring your favorite lady, or at least your favorite lay! 🎵


Hi Mike, I love you're webzone.

Up Circle
Apr 3, 2008

mallratcal posted:

Someone post the 108 page rebuttal of Mr. Plinkett*


*please don't

It's right above your post.

mallratcal
Sep 10, 2003


Up Circle posted:

It's right above your post.

Oh young padawan, you've seen nothing.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
I understand that they didn't really like making the plinkett reviews after a while but I don't really care about any of their other content

Fsmhunk
Jul 19, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

No matter how many times I watch this movie, this guys voice always takes me off guard.

Up Circle
Apr 3, 2008

Pick posted:

I understand that they didn't really like making the plinkett reviews after a while but I don't really care about any of their other content

I think Mike or someone has said the whole reason for the plinkett gimmick was that he didn't think anyone would want to listen to his boring voice droning on for 2 hours.

But now that video essays are a whole genre, I would love it if they did more long-form reviews without the serial killer bits in between. It could fill the void between Lindsay's more straightforward and educational videos and Jenny's manic fangirl editing style.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
I didn't like the framing device in that respect, but I did think that his voice and the character in a more broad sense did a good job of highlighting how ridiculous it was in a self-aware kind of way

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
"Star Wars episode 1 is the most disappointing thing since my son" is the kind of of humorous exaggeration that is fun on a humorously exaggerated character, and is funny. It wouldn't be funny if Mike said it. It's funny when the character, Mr Plinkett, says it. Or when he flashes back to the Titanic and stuff, it's ridiculous harmless hyperbolic humor that works because it's assigned to a goofy caricature. That style of humor can't even exist with, like, a real person and their video essay.

ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

I don't think I've seen anything on the internet with a better opening line. It just draws you in with a drat good joke, immediately. And it's a timeless joke that somehow I still find funny.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


Up Circle posted:

But now that video essays are a whole genre, I would love it if they did more long-form reviews without the serial killer bits in between. It could fill the void between Lindsay's more straightforward and educational videos and Jenny's manic fangirl editing style.

re:View episodes have been creeping up from their original 15-20 minute length to some close to an hour now and are good, but I think they want to limit re:View to movies they think are good. Whereas Plinkett reviews are a love-hate relationship with popular but flawed movies. One think I think they did well with the Plinketts is show lots of examples of things he's talking about.

I'd watch something that's shot like their recent shows but covers the sorts of movies and material they did with Plinkett. Worst of the Best?

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

"Bunnies."
-Ben
I liked the Star Trek Nemesis review where they get about two minutes in and say gently caress it.

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel
I really liked the first Plinkett reviews when they came out. I saw Episode 1 in the theater and I was one of those dumb fanboys (ugh I hate that term) who were super excited. I left the theater a bit confused and honestly thought to myself "I'll just have to watch it in the theater a few more times and then I'll understand it." But I never really did. I couldn't put my finger on why I didn't like it very much. I REALLY wanted to. The blind fanboy poo poo that they get so invested in something that nothing can be wrong and if it is wrong they'll stick their fingers in their ears and go LALALALA not listening! I'm a bit more level headed than that and just thought "eh, I guess I just don't like it that much. That's unfortunate."

What the Plinkett review did was basically explain to me why I didn't like it. All of the points he made were pretty spot on and while watching the video I was literally going "OHHH that's why I felt this way during this scene." It was pretty eye opening and really helped me understand my own feelings. I really liked them.

I haven't seen anything other that the first 3 but I'm open to watching the episodes on the new movies. I don't have any conflicting opinions about the new ones though, I thought they were ok, so there won't be any epiphanies.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Plinkett as such is only the prequels, Baby's Day Out, Avatar, a number of the later Star Trek movies, and Titanic. All of them are good and fit the model well.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

I didn't think The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi videos were good at all.

Up Circle
Apr 3, 2008

Roth posted:

I didn't think The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi videos were good at all.

TFA is probably the least deserving movie of a plinkett review, and I feel like the only reason they made it is the expectation that star wars movies will deserve a plinketting. It doesn't really have the incompetent directing and producing that the prequels had.

It's actually the one that would benefit from a different style, because there is absolutely a lot to talk about in explaining and defining how soulless, hollow, and creatively bankrupt the film is and why Disney's whole trilogy is so flawed from the start...but at that point you're just making a video about JJ abrams whole career, or Disney's broader strategy.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
To be honest though, that was my favorite part of the plinket reviews, particularly nemesis. A review of nemesis is not that interesting, but a review of why nemesis was the way it was is very interesting. Even more so Star Trek 2009

Up Circle
Apr 3, 2008
Those were good ones (and nemesis is way way worse than TFA ever could be) but I don't think the TFA plinkett really hit the mark on explaining why the film is terrible. It's kind of tepid, and has to devote half its runtime to talking about terrible fan theories because there isn't much to say.


edit: i also havent watched it since rlm released it

Up Circle fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Jan 23, 2020

dudeness
Mar 5, 2010

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
Fallen Rib

Roth posted:

I didn't think The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi videos were good at all.

I think the Plinkett reviews worked better for movies that people had years to ruminate on. I haven't even seen the Last Jedi review,The TFA review didn't grab me in the way that the previous ones did so I never even bothered.

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

Up Circle posted:

Those were good ones (and nemesis is way way worse than TFA ever could be) but I don't think the TFA plinkett really hit the mark on explaining why the film is terrible. It's kind of tepid, and has to devote half its runtime to talking about terrible fan theories because there isn't much to say.


edit: i also havent watched it since rlm released it

All fan theories are terrible.

Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014

by Pragmatica
Space Cop is worse than every Star Wars prequel combined. RLM are literally failed film makers who bag on actually popular and successful movies because it makes more money than their lovely joyless intentionally bad movies do, and I'm glad that they seem to resent and actively despise their fans and anyone outside of their misanthropic middle-aged alcoholic bubble.

On the plus side, Best of the Worst is methadone for people who don't have friends to watch bad movies with I guess.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Not gonna lie, I enjoy some of the hitb more than plinkett reviews.

And as much as I get the hyperbolic humor they were going for I still kinda wish we had a toned down version. Going too far in a few places etc

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RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuha5Im1RaQ

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