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Polaron
Oct 13, 2010

The Oncoming Storm


hard counter posted:

there needed to be anti-force stuff in the EU so i can super easily forgive the force-sloth thing

jedi got so ridiculous they could clown entire armies or fleets of plebs by themselves

Here's the thing, though:

The Thrawn trilogy was the start of the EU. It literally didn't exist until those books.

(Which is also why the books are so fondly regarded, incidentally)

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Stravag
Jun 7, 2009


Only if you ignore splinter of the minds eye and like a half dozen other books according to this atleast https://www.orderofbooks.com/characters/star-wars/

Stravag fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Feb 21, 2020

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017



Polaron posted:

Here's the thing, though:

The Thrawn trilogy was the start of the EU. It literally didn't exist until those books.

(Which is also why the books are so fondly regarded, incidentally)

That does not endear me to the Thrawn trilogy

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007


Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952





Stravag posted:

Only if you ignore splinter of the minds eye and like a half dozen other books according to this atleast https://www.orderofbooks.com/characters/star-wars/

Smav drink ? Smav drink ?

Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Also I honestly hate that Chiss are a thing now.

They're one of the most low-effort, low-budget Star Trek style aliens in Star Wars. They make Twi'leks look shockingly creative.

Like why can't Thrawn be a Sebulba or something?

Excuse me his species name is the Dug.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

STOP BEING EVIL.


Stravag posted:

Only if you ignore splinter of the minds eye and like a half dozen other books according to this atleast https://www.orderofbooks.com/characters/star-wars/

There were 7 plus the movie adaptations, but those were pretty contained bits of material compared to the Thrawn trilogy. There's also a pretty stark gap if you look at a chronological list. Last book put out in 83, then the Zahn books start in 91, and then there's a whole snowball effect where there's 6 books coming out in 94 and then there's 21 books in 97.

If you poke around and look at more ancillary material, the old marvel comics, the Droids and Ewoks cartoons, and the TV movies were all done by 86, and 91 was when Dark Horse got the license to publish new comics as well. Even the videogames started to branch out into more original material in the 90s rather than just following the movies like they used to, and there was a weird synthesis between the books, comics, and games all creating their own material and using eachother's material to support themselves, but rarely calling back to the 80s material that wasn't in the movies.

And at least 80% of it all is either terrible or mediocre, but 80% of anything is garbage, that's just the reality of fiction.

Also: Some EU fighters for the new page.





SlothfulCobra fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Feb 21, 2020

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 30, 2003
MANGOSTEEN CHUGGER


Stravag posted:

Only if you ignore splinter of the minds eye and like a half dozen other books according to this atleast https://www.orderofbooks.com/characters/star-wars/

Splinter was weird as hell though - it was written as a low-budget sequel idea in case ANH tanked, and there's a bunch of wonky poo poo like a budding romance between Luke and Leia, and the absence of Han and Chewie (because Harrison Ford had only signed on to do 1 movie at the time)

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 30, 2003
MANGOSTEEN CHUGGER


OTOH the old Han Solo Adventures trilogy and the Lando trilogy were a ton of fun. The Solo trilogy was published, like Splinter, between ANH and ESB, and the Lando trilogy was published right around RoTJ's release. They're good clean goofy fun, pulpy space pirate stuff.

a.lo
Sep 11, 2009



can xwings fly without an r2 unit

Brute Squad
Dec 20, 2006

Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human race






Dinosaur Gum

sure, they just don't know how to hyperspace

JethroMcB
Jan 23, 2004

We're normal now.
We love your family.


I guess this is the thread for Brown Squadron

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k-IgxNOpCg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi4pmEQriAg

SlothfulCobra posted:

The hellraiser aliens from outside the galaxy were dumb, but I like the Coralskipper.



Yuzhan Vong: Good idea, terrible execution

Anyhow the mechanics for fighting coralskippers were pretty tailor-made for video games (their black hole-based shields absorbed nearly all ship-to-ship weaponry, and the ships themselves were impervious to laser fire - but if an X-wing managed to land all 4 laser blasts in one volley, it opened up the shields to proton torpedo strikes.) Imagine a world where Lucasfilm wasn't focused on the prequels and took a risk on a NJO starfighter combat game

Gulping Again
Mar 10, 2007
It's ham, Jonathan! Do you understand? Ham!

SlothfulCobra posted:

But you know what? There's in-world ships that are literally bolted-together pieces of garbage, and they're great. The official name for these is "uglies". I really love them because they really reinforce the idea that all these wild and crazy bits of a ship really each serve a purpose on their own.



2 chassis, one cockpit. Must be a pain in the rear end to park.


I mentioned this thing earlier. The Deathraven was some pirate's dream machine and was an absolute beast in combat, being a purpose-built super fighter built from factory fresh machines rather than old garbage welded together with Space Bondo.

It was also really cramped and uncomfortable in the cockpit and he couldn't stand to use it to travel for any meaningful distance.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007


Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952





JethroMcB posted:

Imagine a world where Lucasfilm wasn't focused on the prequels and took a risk on a NJO starfighter combat game

Meh, I'd rather have an X-Wing game set in the Clone Wars than the NJO. ARC-170s knockin down droid fighters, Y-Wings murdering everything they can land bombs on, escorting waves of gunships down.

And gimmeee coop,. Everyone could be a different Jedi in a fighter with some Force abilities. You go up against a CIS fleet.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008


ďIíll have to get you to excuse me, my friend, I ainít no hat-rack.Ē

Fun Shoe

PinheadSlim
Apr 2, 2015

FRIENDS for EVER

Starfighter tail-gunner is cool as gently caress

nemesis_hub
Nov 27, 2006



Do any hyper nerds have the behind the scenes art books for the ST, Iím really curious what they say about the ship designs or lack thereof.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

STOP BEING EVIL.


This design doesn't exactly feel starwarsy to me, but I like it.





That looks like somebody tried to reduce the poly count of one of those Romulan ships.

SRQ
Nov 9, 2009


dupersaurus posted:

Uh excuse me



How can one thread be so wrong?

yes

the a-wing is a beautiful thing.

Sheilds off, lasers 75%. That's how real men fly.

lasers 0% for a bit now and then like in-universe NOS

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

STOP BEING EVIL.


Crusader
Apr 11, 2002


progress that shields us from the terrors of an uncertain future




Yam Slacker

https://twitter.com/ArmyStrang/stat...798190307610629

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008


ďIíll have to get you to excuse me, my friend, I ainít no hat-rack.Ē

Fun Shoe


only one of these took out the super star destroyer

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002


progress that shields us from the terrors of an uncertain future




Yam Slacker

Squizzle posted:

only one of these took out the super star destroyer

at the cost of the a-wing and pilot tho


JethroMcB
Jan 23, 2004

We're normal now.
We love your family.



The fastest fighter we have, capable of matching a TIE Interceptor at speed.

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002


progress that shields us from the terrors of an uncertain future




Yam Slacker

JethroMcB posted:

The fastest fighter we have, capable of matching a TIE Interceptor at speed.

alright fair enough

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008


ďIíll have to get you to excuse me, my friend, I ainít no hat-rack.Ē

Fun Shoe

the best fighter remains the prowler from farscape because it looks , can fly space-opera-adventure distances, and can carry a passenger

all you need to imagine yrself having adventures in one

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

STOP BEING EVIL.





Woebin
Feb 6, 2006



Hunter Noventa
Apr 21, 2010


If shuttles go here, so does the Sentinel-class landing craft.



Just a big, chunky space bus and I love it.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

One Potato to rule them all,
One Potato to find them,
One Potato to bring them all
And in the darkness bind them.




Bread Liar

Looks like a dog that's lost both its front legs.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008


ďIíll have to get you to excuse me, my friend, I ainít no hat-rack.Ē

Fun Shoe

if you were a bad guy in the star war and used any shuttle but this one, you were robbed:





shiny rear end beetle bullet

OSU_Matthew
Aug 23, 2010


Gun Saliva

I donít think anyone has posted anything from Halo yet, which in my mind has some fairly iconic ships like the pelican. My personal favorite is the YSS-1000 Sabre from Halo Reach.

Itís basically strapped to multi-stage detachable rockets to escape a planetís gravity and get to space, where its main role is orbital defense.





For sci-fi, it feels like a plausible near-future kind of idea without too much in the way of exotic engines and weapons.

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Bootcha
Nov 13, 2012

Truly, the pinnacle of goaltending


Grimey Drawer


How they forget.

Fleet Command posted:

We made it. Hyperspace jump complete! All systems nominal and the quantum wave effect has dissipated.

Fleet Intelligence posted:

We have mis-jumped. The support ship is not here. Fleet Command will signal the Khar-Selim while we confirm our current position.

Fleet Command posted:

This is Mothership calling Support Vessel Khar-Selim. Come in please. We have mis-jumped and are requesting your beaconÖ This is the Mothership calling Support Vessel Khar-Selim. Please RespondÖ

Fleet Intelligence posted:

Priority Alert. We have picked up the Khar-Selimís automated beacon. Send a probe to make contact and re-establish communications.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnP-LQOKLy0#t=142s

The sheer style and quiet class of this introduction alone, puts these two guys in the museum of best starfighters.

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