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iospace
Jan 19, 2038


The Y-wing is the A-10 of the Star Wars verse and I will not accept any other arguments.

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iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Cartoon Man posted:

This thread makes me mourn the loss of Factor 5 developed rogue squadron games.

:rip:

:same:

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Roth posted:

Actually it's the work horse of the rebel fleet

Thanks for agreeing.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Also:

X-Wing: the F-16. Decent at pretty much any role you want it to be in, but really it's nothing special in the end. An, admittedly, solid all-around fighter.
A-Wing: F-15. It's fast, has gently caress you huge engines, and is designed to take down other fighters. Don't expect it to do much else though.
B-Wing: F-14. It's cool looking, can do work, but the gimmicks make it a maintenance nightmare. Naturally nerds love it.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


ThingOne posted:

When was it first established that TIEs were cheap chaff anyway? They were always pretty evenly matched with Rebel fighters in the movies.

It's always been in the side materials. The TIEs had the advantage of speed and maneuverability as opposed to the Rebel fighters, which were slower in combat mode (A-Wing exempted here) but were beefier by way of shielding. They didn't get much play in New Hope, because during the Death Star run, only Vader's group launched (so you had much more skilled pilots than normal), and during the Death Star escape, they were going against a heavily modified freighter, which had heavier shields than your standard fighter.

In ESB, they really didn't get much use at all except to chase the Falcon, and the only real large TIE vs Rebel fighters battle was in RotJ, where it was pretty much "overwhelm the enemy with superior numbers" on the Empire's side of things.

As for landing, they usually landed on racks in the hangers of their home ship, but they could land on the bottom of their wings apparently, but never was shown in canon.

iospace fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Jan 23, 2020

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


dupersaurus posted:

Also, the TIE Defender is the F35 of Star Wars. You know some exec from Sinear fresh out of a tour at Empire DoD was slipping Vader some kickbacks and over-charging for it.

Nah, F-22. It's useful*, can actually fulfill its mission, but is passed up for the more "sexy" F-35 Death Star

*The F-22 has flaws, but it at least had a MVP released unlike the F-35.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


PinheadSlim posted:

This was hilarious and made me think. Has there ever been a greater military boondoggle in fiction or reality than the Death Star? I can't really think of one.

It cost almost incalculable amounts of money and was destroyed in a single battle resulting in at least one million deaths. And then they did it again

Quoting from downtown, but Death Star 1? Yes, especially as designed with the built in weakness.

The second is arguable as to how much of a boondoggle it was, as it was effectively an elaborate trap designed to nuke the rebel fleet in one fell swoop (though probably better served by building a ton of Star Destroyers instead). A completed, "no weakness" death star is an insanely powerful thing that can't be ignored, solely because it can ravage planets day in and day out.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038



Fun facts: The scout, at least in Legends, was one of the earliest TIE designs, being produced in the waning days of the Republic. It was one of the few hyperdrive equipped TIEs and was designed to be a long range scout ship (duh). It could operate up to six months away from civilization and was one of the biggest TIEs to allow for this storage space. Other scounting variants existed, but they were lacking in hyperdrives, so a carrier ship would have to drop them off, jump back in to hyperspace ASAP, and then rendezvous later on after the recon mission was completed.

There also was a civilian version of this ship, the Lone Scout-A, featuring largely the same specs, just not as good of a sensor array, as a civilian wouldn't need the highly sensitive military grade array (among other reasons, natch). However, it had more room for consumables, and was capable of operating up to a year in deep space as opposed to just six months.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Badger of Basra posted:

why do goons love to talk about this loving plane so much

BRRRRRRRRRRRT

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Sage Grimm posted:

why fly them?

:iia:

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iospace
Jan 19, 2038


FuturePastNow posted:

it was the prototype TIE Advanced

the production ones had cutouts on the front and back of the panels

The interesting thing is they made that with the sole purpose of giving Vader a unique ship in a prop context.

In universe, it makes sense he got a prototype, given how he was known as a great pilot, even if it was a retcon in a sense. It was a hyperdrive, shield equipped TIE. That shield saved his rear end in ANH.

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