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Pennywise the Frown posted:Is it possible to play (on a modern system) X-Wing and Tie Fighter with just a mouse? I remember blowing out at least one mouse ball back in the day. My hat is off to you, good goon. My dream is to have a setup like this one day...
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Is it possible to play (on a modern system) X-Wing and Tie Fighter with just a mouse? I remember blowing out at least one mouse ball back in the day. As long as you play the DOS versions, sure.
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Jul 17, 2020 22:45
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I've been playing XWing and TF with an Xbox360 controller and keyboard. It works okay although there's definitely times I wish I had a bigger joystick.
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Jul 18, 2020 01:29
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I've been playing XWing and TF with an Xbox360 controller and keyboard. It works okay although there's definitely times I wish I had a bigger joystick. That’s what she said.
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Jul 18, 2020 15:42
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Is it possible to play (on a modern system) X-Wing and Tie Fighter with just a mouse? I remember blowing out at least one mouse ball back in the day. the infrared from the trackir is weird lookin
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Jul 18, 2020 18:31
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Bedshaped posted:the infrared from the trackir is weird lookin Yeah it's blurry and also it doesn't show up to the eye I think. Just the camera. Or at least nowhere near like that. I wish I actually used that. I want to play DCS World so bad but it's just so difficult to get into. And once I sort of know what I'm doing then I'm bored because it took a week. Then setting up the HOTAS buttons is a nightmare and can take forever. I'm lazy. I want stuff to work now. Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I've been playing XWing and TF with an Xbox360 controller and keyboard. It works okay although there's definitely times I wish I had a bigger joystick. Eh, I hate controllers. I'm a mouse/keyboard guy. Charles posted:As long as you play the DOS versions, sure. drat. I'll probably get it on Steam.
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Jul 18, 2020 21:10
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I'm not sure which version the Steam one is, as I have the GOG one (plus the CDs!) but the DOS version has the superior music anyway.
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Jul 18, 2020 21:17
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Charles posted:I'm not sure which version the Steam one is, as I have the GOG one (plus the CDs!) but the DOS version has the superior music anyway. There's some weird trade off where one version has better quality music, but the other versions have the dynamic music mixer but worse quality music, and there's no one version that has both.
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Jul 19, 2020 01:01
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nine-gear crow posted:There's some weird trade off where one version has better quality music, but the other versions have the dynamic music mixer but worse quality music, and there's no one version that has both. The DOS version have iMUSE synthesized interactive music. It is MIDI. This IMO is superior. The Windows version repeats the Star Wars CD audio. No interactivity. Arguably that's better sound quality, but you lose all the cues and unique soundtrack. The graphics are XvT quality though. I think some of the AI's logic is wrong for Xwing too. The UI has new graphics too.
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Jul 19, 2020 01:15
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Charles posted:The DOS version have iMUSE synthesized interactive music. It is MIDI. This IMO is superior. This is the most correct opinion about this game. This particular earworm has been with me for almost 25 years now! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exEfBvAkdzo&t=632s
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Jul 19, 2020 01:34
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Is it possible to play (on a modern system) X-Wing and Tie Fighter with just a mouse? I remember blowing out at least one mouse ball back in the day. Not smoothly. There is an updated DirectDraw that gets installed via i think the graphics effects mod that has in the .ini a mouse override option that will skip the joystick. You can use a third party mouse to joystick program that.... Sort of works but will try to centre the mouse much like a joystick would if you let go. Edit : quick update I've managed to get the steam controller to work using a third party app. However I need to look into it further by using something like joy to keyboard to assign core buttons like fire. Most of the game can be rebound. BogDew fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Jul 21, 2020 |
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Jul 21, 2020 15:30
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Why would you play this game with a mouse and joystick? That is literally the point of the game: to play a space sim like you are in a cockpit with a joystick. Even if it is the only game you would play, you can get decent joys that have what you need for under $40
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Jul 21, 2020 20:59
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Joysticks used to be expensive when I was a kid and I don't know of many people who had them. I played it with a mouse and keyboard then and I'd like to do it now. The way I use my laptop, it's not practical to use a joystick. Sure I can, and probably will have to, but I don't want to. This isn't some hardcore flight sim. It's an arcade game.
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Jul 21, 2020 21:14
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18AMNwKjPFI This player is a mouse player. If you remember this mission, getting every bonus objective on hard is a near impossibility. They are an ace.
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Jul 21, 2020 21:28
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iirc i used to play this with an oldschool gravis gamepad... it wasn't bad, i managed to ace most missions altho there were at least a couple where i got into the mission critical craft under attack, mission critical craft shields down ,mission critical craft hull conditions critical, mission critical craft destroyed, abort mission, mission a failure! rapidfire death-spiral a mouse is pretty good for lining up precision shots tho, i had to use that before i got a gamepad and later a joystick; the nerdiest set-up i used was a combo involving a keyboard for power management, a joystick for manoeuvring, and a mouse for sniper shots - i used to pretend it was like vader having both a flight control stick and little knobs to tweak his laser cannons for precision shots 
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Jul 22, 2020 06:24
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Squadrons gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGSkCalsisU
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Jul 28, 2020 10:48
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That's looks pretty cool. And oddly he looks like he's using a mouse. You can see the little reticle he's using. For a modern game I'd probably use a joystick but I'd possibly still use a mouse if I can sit my lazy rear end on my couch and play.
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Jul 29, 2020 04:20
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Roth posted:Squadrons gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGSkCalsisU I really like the cockpit layout. Finally, they include a radar screen that makes sense. That was one of the most frustrating parts of starfighter gameplay in the last two Battlefronts.
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Jul 29, 2020 04:50
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Pennywise the Frown posted:That's looks pretty cool. And oddly he looks like he's using a mouse. You can see the little reticle he's using. For a modern game I'd probably use a joystick but I'd possibly still use a mouse if I can sit my lazy rear end on my couch and play. I'm really excited to use my joystick again. Don't take that out of context.
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Jul 29, 2020 05:00
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I bought a HOTAS off SA Mart to play TIE Fighter. And Descent. And mostly because COVID has killed any sense of impulse control, but it was a good deal...
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Jul 29, 2020 05:17
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That gameplay vid makes me feel real good about my pre-order. That's just what I wanted to hear. Now we just have to hope it does well enough that they keep releasing new content. Six multiplayer maps should hold us for a good while though. He was definitely using a mouse, he mentioned using the scroll wheel to angle shields forward and aft.
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Jul 29, 2020 06:07
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My main worry is that the genre is niche enough that the game doesn't have much of a lasting community, but being a Star Wars game I'm sure it'll get quite a bit of interest.
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Jul 29, 2020 06:12
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Roth posted:My main worry is that the genre is niche enough that the game doesn't have much of a lasting community, but being a Star Wars game I'm sure it'll get quite a bit of interest. The X-Wing Alliance modding community has been going strong for 20 years now, so there's some real die-hards out there. I just hope there's some variety to things, because that gameplay footage looked mildly repetitive after a while. Hope they take some cues from X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter when it comes to mission configurations. Also give me my TIE Defender, you pricks.
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Jul 29, 2020 07:05
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The TIE Defender is now a failed project by Grand Admiral Thrawn learn the loving lore rear end in a top hat
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Jul 29, 2020 07:09
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I require more B-Wings in this game 
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Jul 29, 2020 08:19
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On paper, I think the Squadrons cockpit is only a little smaller than the cockpits in the X/Tie series, and it's even clear why, because that gives more interior for decorations to jangle around and they really manage to give off the effect of the size of your ship outside of the cockpit. But it still feels like such a narrow range of vision to what I want. I'm still not sure what battlefield niche the troop transport ships are supposed to serve.
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Jul 29, 2020 17:44
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Roth posted:I'm really excited to use my joystick again. I'm really excited to use your joystick too. Take that out of context.
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Jul 29, 2020 18:37
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nine-gear crow posted:The X-Wing Alliance modding community has been going strong for 20 years now, so there's some real die-hards out there. I just hope there's some variety to things, because that gameplay footage looked mildly repetitive after a while. Hope they take some cues from X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter when it comes to mission configurations. Yeah it definitely looked repetitive. I could see that getting stale pretty quickly. I hope they add more game modes or something. I'm mostly excited about single player so I hope there is a decent story and a variety of gameplay.
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Jul 29, 2020 18:39
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Personally, I'll be happy with it that style of gameplay. I've been playing Battlefront II, and the only mode I really play is Starfighter Assault. Those missions are repetitive, but it's really about the dogfighting. My favorite part about that gameplay trailer was seeing how robust the fighters are. They can take a lot more hits than the ones in Battlefront II.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:I'm really excited to use your joystick too. 
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SlothfulCobra posted:
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Yeah, but what is their purpose in the game where there's no troops being transported?
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Bogus Adventure posted:I require more B-Wings in this game gently caress I didn't know Japan had B-Wings
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Jul 30, 2020 18:55
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SlothfulCobra posted:Yeah, but what is their purpose in the game where there's no troops being transported? The explanation I've gleaned from the introduction trailers and stuff seems to be that the U-Wing and TIE Reaper (which should have been the TIE Striker, come on guys!)'s interiors are fairly modular and their troop space has been swapped out for tech that can buff or nerf other ships. In the real world, they're there because they want to get the most usage out of the whizbang new ships they made for Rogue One.
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Jul 30, 2020 22:27
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nine-gear crow posted:TIE Striker, come on guys! TIE Breaker, surely
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nine-gear crow posted:TIE Reaper (which should have been the TIE Striker, come on guys!) The Striker's still only a single-person craft - it's basically just a standard TIE that's optimized for atmospheric flight. Though if there's any expansions or sequels, it would be cool to have the standard TIEs swapped for Strikers in planetside stages.
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Jul 30, 2020 23:36
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Bogus Adventure posted:I require more B-Wings in this game It bugs me how so many examples of B-Wings in media (be it games or promo pics, movie stills, etc.) there seems to he a problem with consensus on the wing orientation regarding the cockpit when folded or extended.
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Robot Style posted:The Striker's still only a single-person craft - it's basically just a standard TIE that's optimized for atmospheric flight. That would be a good place to shove in the V-Wing or E-Wing as a suitable Rebel counterpart, yeah. e: The old V-Wing, I mean, from Rogue Squadron, not the current canon one. That one looks like poo poo.
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dialhforhero posted:It bugs me how so many examples of B-Wings in media (be it games or promo pics, movie stills, etc.) there seems to he a problem with consensus on the wing orientation regarding the cockpit when folded or extended. Rebels solved it 
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They originally wanted the Falcon's cockpit to do that too, but it never made it into the movie so was re-used for the B-Wing.
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