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PinheadSlim posted:The sequel trilogy feels like a fan film but with the budget and resources of the real deal, I can never escape this feeling when watching the trilogy. Stilll, the casino set is not terribly well designed or decorated. I felt like there should have been weird alien fine art all over the place, but the walls are all blank. It looks like a casino from star trek
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# ¿ Feb 23, 2020 23:10 |
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2024 13:10 |
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When will the story be told?
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2020 07:27 |
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Saint Drogo posted:nvm the lightsabre, remember when we thought this character would have reasons to exist? Here is her reason to exist: She helped leia steal a bounty hunter's armor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thOQwKCm-IY
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2020 18:15 |
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Maybe he's a hologram? He's a hologram in most of the other ones, and he's kinda blue
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2020 11:14 |
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Is there a lot of the Wizard of Oz in these new movies? Rey starts on a sepia depression world with a little dog, for example, meets three male comedians who take her to see the Wizard of Maz, Who lives in a castle on an emerald planet and gives everyone a useless trinket to give them confidence (Luke Skywalker's Lightsaber) Rey is then captured by the Wicked Witch of the West and taken to a castle planet where three goofballs and one in a fursuit have to go save her. There's also like specific imagery with Snoke, from his throne room to his whole deal being a big holographic head. There may not be much to this but it feels like theres a little.
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2020 17:49 |
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nine-gear crow posted:People like to forget that Rian Johnson also directed Ozymandias, the best episode of Breaking Bad, and according to a lot of people, the best episode of television in history... And yet, he's no Michelle MacLaren. FWIW I actually cannot think of any modern director who fits the weird commercial auteur status Lucas and company had in the day. Rian is probably both the closest and the best choice despite his understandable inability to mine a good film out of a desperate corporate mandate.
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2020 23:10 |
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Cease to Hope posted:It seems to be what Disney is attempting to cultivate lately, with mixed results. taika waititi maybe? It's fundamentally impossible for them to cultivate an anti-establishment filmmaker, which is nice. I don't get the Taika hype. Ghost Leviathan posted:Lord and Miller? They're OK! But are they really Auteurs? I feel like if they were we'd have a little more Clone High and a lot less The Lego Movies.
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# ¿ May 1, 2020 07:06 |
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Cease to Hope posted:I don't think Lucas was ever an antiestablishment filmmaker! Waititi has a distinct authorial (auteurial?) voice that comes through even with Disney's relentless branding machine, I would say. Well whether his ad copy is an accurate reflection of the kind of filmmaker he is or was, Lucas at least seems to think he was anti-hollywood and in his career took tons of steps to maintain creative control of his work. So much that is establishment now is a result of that rebellious energy, not just from George, and whatever Watiti's strength as a filmmaker he seems content to work within that system, Unlike Lucas, Coppola, Walt Disney, and many others.
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# ¿ May 2, 2020 15:06 |
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CainFortea posted:Lucas and Disney only wanted to change the system because they wanted to BE the system. Which they are now. So how the hell can you restrike that lightning. Who has that fire?
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# ¿ May 2, 2020 15:43 |
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Conversely you can imagine the people making these movies, including but not limited to george and steven, as a group of friends who fell into big commercial success and had a blast going on a one time great ride. All the actors and the crew, all the special effects dudes and puppeteers, the editors and a couple of the monty python people and that poo poo. There's a story Carrie Fisher tells where the whole cast were all up all night drinking with monty python the night before the cloud city shoot. They all probably had drama, people got together and or divorced, and they all signed each other's yearbooks at the end of production. Jim Henson is there at the wrap party with his evil bong, the guys who blew up the death star blow a bunch of poo poo up in a field, and some people realize they're alive for the first time. Anyway, now the board of directors hires the guy who makes movies for very cheap and puts them in a computer simulated lab environment to direct hypercompetent droves of filmmaker/animators, gives them a script and then re-edits the whole thing with a new director after they decide what they don't like. It is marketed as an attempt to replicate the first thing, the rise of skywalker's bonus footage is mostly footage behind the scenes of the OT. There are parties but they aren't very good. CainFortea posted:What does that have to do with the price of butter? Part of the pursuit of money is the pursuit of a hard to sell idea. Having the money means having creative control. The drive to raise that money for that specific, individual idea is a different sort of thing than being paid to have someone's old idea.
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# ¿ May 2, 2020 16:27 |
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CainFortea posted:Okay, so you said "So much that is establishment now is a result of that rebellious energy..." How can either of us actually pretend to know their real motivation? To me it seems like they were young and wanted to start some poo poo, and that they lucked into most of it, and changed some stuff for a while. I'm sure they wanted to change the pecking order, but isn't that what sparks real rebellions? Are rebels typically satisfied with their social standing?
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# ¿ May 2, 2020 16:55 |
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Some Goon posted:George just wanted to make films. Like, he was smart about it, but it seems more than anything he is/was just a film nerd. Walt probably lucked into everything too, despite the fact he successfully took over California.
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# ¿ May 2, 2020 19:46 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Dude for all intents and purposes was basically a supervillain. I wonder if he and Bob Hope were in some kind of villains league together
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# ¿ May 3, 2020 18:26 |
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Tulip posted:Outside of film geeks like us going "why they gently caress did so much money/labor get flushed down the drain on such a bankrupt project," everybody who has any emotion about the sequels only actually has opinions on TLJ lmao I never watched this show, but I'm curious to find out if they saved the cheerleader
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# ¿ May 29, 2020 17:25 |
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This was cool. I'll give it to this.
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# ¿ May 30, 2020 04:37 |
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I want the Wookiepediesque explanation for the hair. Is there a thermal machine that schporches your hair a certain color of the spectrum? Is the dye made of bantha venom? Or did she go to the store, get a box of purple dye, and do it in her sink on board the republic starship?
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2020 19:01 |
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Bogus Adventure posted:It's because the Sequel Trilogy had the build up of the WWF's mystery egg gimmick, and landed with the same grace and effect as gimmick's reveal. There is no better wrestler than the gobbledy gooker
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2020 02:16 |
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Master Yoda will be in Avatar 2. Mark my words.
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2020 23:39 |
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For all the poo poo the prequels get, imagine if Solo had come out instead of Phantom Menace
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2020 04:41 |
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Cease to Hope posted:swords at dawn in the prequeldome My jedi handicap is that I only watched the first 20 minutes of solo and then turned on scarey movie 2.
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2020 05:31 |
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It's like, they had two scenes in a row where a character ham-fistedly names another character, and their names are han solo and chewbacca, and then you realize you can step away from it all
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2020 05:37 |
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Cease to Hope posted:Solo: A Shaggy Dog Story Harrison Ford is turned into a shaggy dog, ala Tim Allen
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2020 06:32 |
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Cease to Hope posted:That would be a good example of the tight interlinks that end up making every interation feel like there's no distinction between interactions between relatives and interactions between everyone else. Well, we ARE all one in the arms of the living force
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2020 15:23 |
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You ever think the grift was to put 3-5 crappy movies in theaters so as to motivate interest in Streaming Exclusive The Mandalorian And New Clone Wars Also
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2020 04:48 |
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josh04 posted:It didn't work, I've only seen three of the movies and I still don't own a Disney+ Well neither did I, but what of the unwashed masses?
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2020 16:42 |
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Phil's knocking at my door, every day, trying to get a discount on his Disney Plus account by recommending a friend. I don't know why he doesn't try any of the other doors, or why he wouldn't accept the five dollars it would cost in the form of cash, but if he REALLY wants to sell me, he needs to take a shower.
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2020 19:42 |
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This is a qubi household. End of story.
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# ¿ Oct 31, 2020 02:10 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:Well, ostensibly the throughline of the first movie was the Resistance risking their lives just to get the USB drive of where Luke was, and then Rey was the person they sent on that high-priority mission, so I assume that she had some kind of standing. Or they just kinda decided to abandon the thing they spent all last movie doing for no real reason because nobody at any point ever planned where the series would go. He doesnt eat a chicken
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# ¿ Dec 6, 2020 21:12 |
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Halloween Jack posted:No, it couldn't. It's an inherently bad idea for Star Wars. Aye, but what would the social realist of something unknowable be? Say a giant death star eating gorilla appeared, and before the rebels got too glad the gorilla starts popping x wings into his mouth like M&Ms. This would cause huge social and economic upheaval, confusion, strange new alliances, bicycle thieves, gaps in supply chains, insurrections, and everything down from that. And how would you approach that spiritually, with "the force?" it is to ask.
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# ¿ Jan 15, 2021 01:47 |
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Grendels Dad posted:Right, these are just the times for "We must forge an alliance with the Space Nazis to fight the giant gorilla" type stories. The giant gorilla ate most of the space nazis. He also ate most of anybody else who was on a ship, Warrior Merchant or Man. He eats machines and factories. Droids are on the run. TATOOINE, with its underground means and methods of trade, has become a new capital. CORUSCANT, the jewel of the republic, stands a wreck. Soup lines are everywhere. Famine abounds. In these worst of times, powerful rival gangs of JEDI, SEPERATISTS and LOYALISTS have risen, each with their own vision for the future of democracy, and the GALAXY.... Then you pan down, see coruscant in the poo poo, like in that movie they didn't use. Buildings are a mess, but there's also grass growing back everywhere so it's got that going on for it. And there's flags and clotheslines and there's still life, there's people rounding up votes for elections and that's our protag, a Youngling who can't get anyone to take his Jedi flyers. The election's also gangs of new york level crooked, people get their arms chopped off, there's like a tamany hall machine, but then a bunch of commandments or like a code of hammurabi appear scorched on one of the buildings in a lightsaber. nobody knows who done it, there is a furious search but none can find. more appear despite efforts, and eventually i think the deal is multiple people make rules and cross them out and it becomes like the silly beginning of a democracy, the protagonist meets the og artist and she is a graffiti jedi, who hatched a bright idea. But really, the tamany machine does not like it at all and they start sending hits out on people, same with the organized leadership of the respective gangs. Just spitballin here
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# ¿ Jan 15, 2021 18:10 |
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nine-gear crow posted:Well, I guess now that Sequeldome is back, it should be pointed out that a study was done recently analyzing over 1 million tweets and 1,000 YouTube videos talking about Star Wars, and it turns out that the people who are screaming the loudest about Star Wars on the internet are all alt-right assholes who have clear problems with women and people of colour existing. I wonder how many of them got money from bisney from creating you tube videos
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2021 03:40 |
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Today I considered, they brought Frank Oz to do a puppet in the last jedi when he has not done puppets in 20 years. Why was he not a choice to direct? He directed one of the all time puppet effect movies ever! He probably could have done it for half the budget!!
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2021 04:11 |
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Bogus Adventure posted:Imagine loving Force Fraggles explaining that they are midichlorians using people as avatars in the fight between Good and Evil! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DobSmOHMBe8
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2021 05:52 |
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Cease to Hope posted:he's in his 70s and basically retired He put out two documentaries in the past four years. Granted, Star wars would be a lot more work and a huge waste of his time. But he could have made the what about bob of star wars: Rey is completely dutiful to snoke and destroys the first order. The special effects could be "out of this world"
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2021 14:48 |
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indigi posted:nobody wants to do things for half the budget. producers and execs all want to be able to list enormously bloated budgets next to their projects to prove how much of a big deal they are Well, gently caress them! what they want could kill an elephant. And I posted a clip of it already, but y'all REALLY should watch the Dark Crystal. It's about a lot of these themes and goes further in one film than any star wars does, except maybe phantom menace but can you imagine if henson had directed a prequel. Jim Henson's Phantom Menace. It's spiritual like the force is but importantly comes from the heart of a person who seems to have had an easier time navigating the "force." If he had lived he probably would not have bothered though and mnde several films other that would unlock new potentials, of the human mind.
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2021 23:11 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:The Dark Crystal was incredibly weird. Jim Henson was an amazing filmaker, but he never really managed to crack drama. He managed to create a whole weird crazy world with piles of lore, but extremely little of that lore is in the movie and the actual plot isn't really delivered well. I gotta differ! This film is moody as hell and everything you need to know is right on the screen. If it were more dramatic in a way you expect a movie to be dramatic it would lower the distance between you and the place. The Dark Crystal with a "good plot" is Avatar. And he did do cg! He was doing weird computer muppets and stuff right before he died. Grendels Dad posted:For a world as wonderfully rich in lore, I found the Dark Crystal world strangely empty. You got miles and miles of forest with wildlife and whatnot and that part is great and feels alive, but it never feels like a world with more sentient beings in it than the handful of characters we see. The Skeksis are evil and that obviously sucks for that one Fraggle village they keep raiding, but it only ever seems to be about the Skeksis and the Fraggles and then there are about a dozen other characters on the planet and that's it. The planet is dying, there ARE only a dozen other characters. Really you shouldn't miss the forest for the trees on something like this. So much I hear complaints about works that are inaccessible or incomplete, but it may be that these are doing exactly the thing intended: activating your imagination! How could you even imagine a better dark crystal, if this bizarre theater company had not poured so much into producing it. They built an astrolabe!!
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# ¿ Mar 16, 2021 14:57 |
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Barudak posted:You have a more control then people tend to think about (early action execution is a big deal alongside atb autorefresh), but ultimately its a radical shift in how a battle is managed so if it doesn't work I get it but disagree. Alright then wiseguy, riddle me this. How would YOU fix the combat system in the force awakens
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# ¿ Mar 26, 2021 18:03 |
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Barudak posted:All fights in the film replaced with a round of a children's card game Now we're playing...with the heart of the cards!
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2021 06:12 |
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2024 13:10 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:But what kind of D6?
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