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Bogus Adventure posted:It doesn't help that the screen crawl in TFA literally tells you "HEY, THIS GUY POE DAMERON IS SUPER COOL!!! YOU SHOULD LIKE HIM!!!" Per some dude on IMDB Poe gets 8 minutes of screentime in TFA. I didn't even remember the character's name going into TLJ since he just shows up at the very end going all 'I'm the ace pilot here to help with Coming out of the theater after seeing TFA I was like "at least it wasn't a prequel", and while still strictly better than them by virtue of being watchable, its a lousy movie and the issues of the later sequels can only be seen in the context of how little TFA set them up to succeed / exist. While it had some obvious plot hooks a. it was largely a remake of Star Wars, a movie plotted to be stand-alone and b. it barely developed it's characters.
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I have my doubts Disney would have allowed TFA to be a different movie. JJ was a good choice to make the movie they wanted but the whole thing reeked of being designed in a board room. Also, because Hayden Christiansen has no star power.
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Jun 14, 2020 02:09
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Holdo's hair reminds me of all the older hippie ladies in my parents neighborhood, which is a bit incongruous with her position as Admiral, but that's really on me for knowing a bunch of old hippies. And then of course it turns out she's from the new age hippie planet.
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Jun 14, 2020 13:35
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:ANH > ESB > TLJ > ROTJ > TPM > the rest are all down here Putting TPM above 'the rest' is the real crime here. Also, unrelated, but Teagone, is it pronounced tea-gone or tea-gon-ee (like Antigone)? This keeps bugging me.
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Jun 17, 2020 15:41
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Good: Empire Charming and fun: New Hope Probably okay, but I should re-watch it: RotJ The rest are bad. Varying degrees of badness, sure, but I've recently come to the conclusion that being better than the prequels doesn't redeem the sequels. I could spend time weighing their relative merits, but they're just not worth it.
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Jun 17, 2020 16:37
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cuntman.net posted:i can understand not liking the prequels but actually thinking the sequels are better is a completely bizarre concept The sequels are creatively bankrupt, just another spectacle churned out like clockwork from the Disney movie machine. At best it can be said 'they had some cool action scenes'. The prequels are a low point in cinema. Every minute is agony, like when Anakin is back with Padme. The closer you watch, the worse it gets. The thought of the horrific acting and dialogue-- I can't breathe. I'm haunted by the movies George should never have given me. My heart is beating, hoping that those movies will not become a scar. They are in the very soul of the the fandom, tormenting me. What can I do?
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Grendels Dad posted:Lighten up about Star Wars? https://youtu.be/5rJS3VBZcz0 E: its a (slightly modified) quote from the prequels.
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From an artistic standpoint the prequels have everything over the sequels. They are as close as you'll come to a singular vision realized in mainstream cinema. But if I had to actually watch either I'd take the sequels; not that I intend to.
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Jun 17, 2020 20:31
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It's a solid Luke story, but then the b story of everyone else is largely extraneous. That is, while he needs a reason to be a hero again By the same workings, if it's a story about the new cast Luke takes up too much of the film. I'll give you that it's not soulless like TFA, but it's a bit of a mess. But, as I said at some point previously, TLJs problems are to some degree the fault of being a sequel to TFA which didn't lay a strong foundation for a sequel. Determining to what degree and a more in-depth criticism of TLJ would require re-watching both of them, probably multiple times, and I can't say that's something I'm up for doing.
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Jun 17, 2020 21:48
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As somebody said probably in this thread, if you get mutinied against you've failed in your role as commanding officer. She may have been in the right to do so vis-a-vis chain of command, but it was a poor tactical decision. Seeing as he was recently an officer and something something starkiller base (TFA is pretty hazy at this point), the odds that Poe was the mole was pretty small.
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Jun 18, 2020 19:01
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Blowing up the first death star would be enough to make you a hero, considering that it singlehandedly saved the alliance and they held an award ceremony and everything, so while I don't disagree that the mythologizing of the OT cast is a meta action, there's good reason for him to be seen as a war hero. Or would be if said war had accomplished anything. It's a good point that his actions in RotJ are entirely personal and had no bearing on anything else, not something I had spent any time thinking about.
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Jun 19, 2020 15:10
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JJ did ignore TLJ? Like, Snoke's dead / had to be replaced with Palp, but nothing that happened to TLJ really appeared to impact the events of RotS. If anything, RotS felt like the third movie in a completely different trilogy.
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What RotS has going for it is that it let the new cast take center stage. TLJ was dominated by Luke and Luke's story, and TFA by someone jabbing you in the side going 'remember Star Wars?' and also more than the necessary amount of old Harrison Ford (none). I wonder how the sequels would be received if they weren't presented / conceived as a trilogy. TFA could just be 'Star Wars 2000', TLJ could be the start of some new story that wouldn't have to write around TFA, and RotS basically does stand alone, but it could have been done a lot better if it wasn't set up as a third act. Not that I trust Disney's writers to be able to craft a stand alone story any better *cough* Rogue One *cough*, but, y'know, someone could have.
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Jun 19, 2020 17:55
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Rogue one had a very good (in a popcorn summer move kind of way) final act and while I didn't find the rest of the movie objectionable I can't deny it did jump around too much and too fast for its own good. If it was just a 1.5hr heist of the death star plans it would have owned.
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Jun 19, 2020 22:01
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nine-gear crow posted:So the talent agent then asks the family, "...Okay, but what do you call your act?" And the family answers in unison, "THE SEQUEL TRILOGY!" 
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Jun 20, 2020 15:12
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Darth Maul I haven't seen Solo.
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Jun 21, 2020 00:11
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Wasn't that just RotS? Come to think of it, didn't palpyboy come back to life like multiple times in the EU?
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Cease to Hope posted:I don't think this lands because Star Wars, particularly in the prequels and sequels, interlinks everything so tightly that all interactions feel like family drama. I mean, Vader is his grandfather and all...
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Jun 27, 2020 06:09
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Rey who meme, but the John Galt speech.
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Aug 31, 2020 05:54
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I think the only viewscreen in all of star wars is the one vader chokes the dude out on. Considering the state of the tech in targeting computers on the Falcon and X-Wings maybe they just never invented displays good enough to be used instead of direct visuals.
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Sep 7, 2020 23:42
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drat, I forgot all about the sports bar. Aight, I got nothing.
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That's exactly what you said, it's barely even a paraphrase. But also lol at thinking TLJ is "deep, meaningful and mythic"
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The resistance are right-wing. The directly-literal plot of the films is that they're neofeudalists serving Palpatine in his efforts to obliterate the Galaxy's left wing. They effectively won before the trilogy even started, the First Order are not the resistance movement in these movies.
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Sep 14, 2020 18:57
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CainFortea posted:I will never understand why kylo ren's stupid loving lightsaber design didn't just make everyone go "hang on, wait, we're fuckin this all up" Have your company spend $4 billion on something and we'll see who has the balls to speak up.
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Oct 20, 2020 02:00
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ungulateman posted:i mean it's violent, barely controlled, spitting sparks everywhere, and obviously not as refined and sensible as other lightsabers. it's an insanely obvious metaphor for his character This plus, light claymore.
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It will never not blow my mind that star wars was worth less than twice that of minecraft.
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I didn't laugh out loud in the theater, but it was clear it was going to be horseshit from the first minute, when the central plot point to what was ostensibly the conclusion of a trilogy was revealed in the opening text crawl.
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Ignorant Hick posted:I haven't seen the movie in awhile, but doesn't the first order detect the cloaked transports effortlessly once they learn whats happening? From what I recall some officer just taps a few buttons and finds the ships. Why wouldn't they be actively scanning for cloaked ships all the time if it's that simple? Seems like a pretty bad plan if it entirely hinges on every ship in the first order fleet being incompetent. It'd be like if the nu-rebels went in to a head to head fleet battle and their secret plan was hoping the first order ships forgot to turn on their shields that day. IIRC, he was a magic codebreaker who told them the code needed to detect the cloaked ships, since you can decode cloaking devices I guess.
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Jan 12, 2021 23:11
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Vernii posted:I personally think Snoke should have been cut out entirely and replaced with some charismatic but normal ex-Imperial. Kylo falling into his orbit because they have "some good ideas" would have been a nice departure from just rehashing Anakin's fall 2.0, and allowed for more growing tension as Kylo becomes more ambitious and FO leadership realize they're in danger of their own tool turning on them. Doing something potentially risky? You'll never make it at Disney with that attitude.
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Jan 14, 2021 16:18
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Lmao. When you must carry on the tradition of space triangles, but more, you get a space triangular prism.
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Jan 16, 2021 02:59
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Whod'a guessed that the "M" they were talking about was necromancy.
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Jan 18, 2021 07:03
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Asgerd posted:Too Many Palpatines!: A Star Wars
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Jan 20, 2021 05:50
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Jim Henson was incredibly weird.
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RBA Starblade posted:It comes up in TFA that the stormtroopers are kidnapped and indoctrinated as children At a certain point, they're still shooting at you. That point was the first 3 minutes of A New Hope.
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Mar 25, 2021 22:14
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FunkyAl posted:Alright then wiseguy, riddle me this. How would YOU fix the combat system in the force awakens Everybody fans out and starts marching in place when they land on the
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Mar 26, 2021 19:19
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Right? That's the face of a movie star. If only he could act.
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Mar 29, 2021 16:39
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Is the leakpost not just what literally everyone assumed happened as soon as they saw the movie?
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Apr 12, 2021 21:06
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I'm not sure I ever even saw a sequel poster. If I did they were as forgettable as the sequels.
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May 26, 2021 20:45
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Why am I not surprised the guy who gets 5 seconds of screen time before having his arm cut off has 50 pages of backstory fluff and was Actually Really Important. He's got a death sentence in 12 systems don't you know?
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