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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Never, ever acquiesce to fan demands, they do not know what they want

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

muscles like this! posted:

The funniest part was Kylo being all "remember how I said they were nobodies? Well... they totally weren't but we're going to say they were even though it doesn't make any sense to word it that way and this is an extremely blatant retcon."
I haven’t seen it yet so what were his exact words walking it back, I find that choice to be super disappointing because Kylo's whole pitch to Rey, especially Driver's delivery of “say it...say it”, is some of my favorite acting in SW so to find out that was all lying in retrospect kills that scene. And it wasn't Kylo that said they were nobodys, it was Rey!

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

That sounds real bad

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Incoherence posted:

The implication of that scene for me was that, like the scenes in TFA where Rey learns most of what she knows about the Jedi by reading Kylo's mind, she's learning that from him and then just saying it out loud.

Well that would directly contradict the "you know, you've always known" thing, I think she literally did know and was in denial about it, or at least until TROS changed all that.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

cams posted:

tlj was an interesting story that democratized the force and returned it to the people

tros said "gently caress that, noble bloodlines matter more than anything. also that kid with the broom is dead."

Did they really kill Broom Kid

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

He will return as Darth Swiffer

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Wait who are Rey's parents

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

nine-gear crow posted:

Literally not important. The movie doesn't even tell you which one of them was Palpy's kid.

Oh so she's Palpatine's granddaughter, not related to the skywalkers at all I see. Like I said I skimmed the wiki article

Did they ever explain how Luke's lightsaber ended up with the myopic alien lady

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Chuck Buried Treasure posted:

I never got why this was such a sticking point for so many people. It fell down a big hole, some scavenger found it and recognized what it was and sold it to Kanata because she trades in weird old relics. Whatever.

It fell down a big hole into a gas giant.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I loving love TLJ, I love it more every time I see it, I'm in love with Kylo AND Rey in that movie and I read a bunch of early reviews of TROS that said "If you hated TLJ you'll love this and vice versa" and I thought "well surely it can't be that bad" and since I tend to like things and forgive shortcomings in things I like I figured I'd be fine with it but after reading about the story I'm kind of mad about it?

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I thought it was funny when Poe called him General Hugs he got so mad

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

If you don't read the novelizations, we know exactly as much about the Emperor at the end of RotJ as we ever learn about Snoke before TRoS, and this was a major problem for the Twittermen

I'm convinced that the vast majority of hate for TLJ, at least the toxic, foamed-mouth kind, is entirely due to the fact that extremely online people spent 18 months arguing and getting super personally invested in their fan theories and when they didn't happen it enraged them. The same thing happens within the shipping community, I understand.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I wish he wouldn't have been a hologram in TFA and really was just that giant

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/ditzkoff/status/1220806045431255040

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I get the casino thing, I don't think it was executed well. Again I think that's a problem of having too many characters. They shouldn't have had both Poe and Finn, or they shoulda synthesized them into one character. Especially since the end result apparently was that neither of them do anything terribly important. John Boyega is fantastic in TFA, Oscar Isaacs is fantastic period, but having so many characters to service means the film flows awkwardly. Even I must concede that the timeline is kind of dumb (though I don't think Rey's training stuff was concurrent with the space chase, the Finn subplot absolutely was).

Broader on Finn/Rose, a lot of people who were mad about it were specifically mad about her saving Finn's life/ruining his heroic sacrifice, I don't think that was a bad call (though given TROS maybe it would've been for the best), I think the "we win by saving what we love" works very well within the themes of the other movies

cams posted:

thank god finn ended up with a race-appropriate partner, i was worried there for a minute

Hold up, they cast two black people in the same Star Wars movie?

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Cease to Hope posted:

lando is a deadbeat dad and poe is a drug dealer, TROS rules

Sleazbaggapoe

vyelkin posted:

anybody worrying about making sure the timing adds up is going to have a bad time with the new trilogy imo, TFA introduces weapons that can fire across a whole galaxy and obliterate planets instantly, and I think it also has the hyperdrive jumping them from system to system in like thirty seconds (rogue one definitely had this too) while the original trilogy had it taking days to get where the heroes wanted to go, TLJ has the super-speed shuttle, ROS has the planet full of star destroyers on the edge of the galaxy that no one knows how to get to until they follow someone who already knows the way, and yet lando and chewie go all the way to the centre of the galaxy to rally ten thousand allies and make it there like five minutes after the rest of the rebellion show up, it's all a completely jumbled mess

Oh for sure but rather than spend 100 hours online constructing and defending a coherent timeline I just acknowledge it doesn't add up but whatever

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

As I recall, her being no one was one of the things the Redditmen were angriest about (because their fan theories)

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Who got unkilled

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Oh right. I guess I'm so used to The Emperor coming back in clone/holocron/ghost/presense form in EU stuff it doesn't even register to me anymore.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I keep thinking this is a TRON thread and well, it should be

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Ghost Leviathan posted:

lol that they made the movie incredibly stupid to please the dumbest possible fans

Loudest possible

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Wait his plan in which trilogy

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