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Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

kustomkarkommando posted:

Also lol looks like government formation may be getting delayed as Tipp is being postponed

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1224399444017283072?s=19

What a dumb electoral system we have

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Sep 22, 2018

lemonadesweetheart posted:

When we say Ireland we mean the Island so yeah. But if you mean the Republic there is a very small contingent who would probably be okay with that.

So small that I have never heard someone express that view in 35 years living here. Though I guess they probably wouldn't have mentioned it to me when I was like 3 years old

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Sep 22, 2018

lemonadesweetheart posted:

Not sure about the bigger parties but Labour getting 6 seems a stretch. PbP only getting 1 seems really low. I don't think Soc Dems will get 5 either.

SD getting 5 seems optimistic, though my boy Gary Gannon is nailed on imo

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Sep 22, 2018

lemonadesweetheart posted:

He seems like a good lad but I still don't really trust the purple ones to do much to push things further left.

By themselves? No. But then the same is true of all Irish candidates on the vague left.

Luckily thanks to the miracle of STV I don't even have to give him number 1 to still strongly endorse him over a bunch of massive corporatist pricks

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

kustomkarkommando posted:

TG4 has taken the pulse of the Kingdom

https://twitter.com/harrymcgee/status/1224770992268087299?s=19

SF coming top - up 8%

Greens at 9% - up 8% - might even get a seat... in Kerry??

FF +7%

The Healy Rae alliance -14% - Danny looks dead?

Aw gently caress if the Healy Raes take a beating I will be so happy

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

kustomkarkommando posted:

must be rubbing their hands together

wait, are we doing anti-Semitic tropes in Irish politics as well now?

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Nah seems reasonable

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Sep 22, 2018

Blut posted:

Sitting in opposition for decades doesn't achieve anything, other than a few decades of 100k a year salaries for your TDs.

Seems to be working out ok for SF right now.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

lemonadesweetheart posted:

If she wasn't an independent this wouldn't be happening.

Perhaps not, but it should

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Dunno why everyone thinks you need a polling card to vote. Don't think I'm usually asked to present mine, and it's not a requirement if you have ID

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Sep 22, 2018

lemonadesweetheart posted:

I had only just submitted my change of address when the election was announced as I just recently moved here, so I wasn't sure if I'd be stuck in my old district or not. I was aware you don't need it but this confirms that I'm registered to vote where I live.

Yeah sorry, I was speaking generally. I've had to tell about half a dozen people the same thing in work this week

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Electionlit becomes increasingly lit

https://twitter.com/electionlit/status/1225732113372241921?s=19

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Sep 22, 2018

lemonadesweetheart posted:

Get out and vote.

I was going to but you didn't ask nicely :colbert:

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

lemonadesweetheart posted:

Gary Gannon will fail then.

GG can never fail, he can only be failed. But fine then! *puts on jacket, looks at u surly*

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
I did it, I socialism'ed all over that poor ballot.

Now I can have a little morning icecream, as a treat

e: took enormous satisfaction in hellvoting against the #MIGA #DrainTheSwamp super-racist attention-seeking clownfuck fail candidate

Failed Imagineer fucked around with this message at 11:46 on Feb 8, 2020

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Sep 22, 2018

Aidan_702 posted:

Is the higher than expected turnout real or is it just people are using this as an excuse to get up earlier on the weekend and polling stations will be empty by 4pm?

I imagine at least weekend elections don't have the issue of workers voting en masse after work. Wait and see though

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Sep 22, 2018

PowerBeard posted:

It should have been #DrainTheBog

As a Cork ex-pat, I feel victimised

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Sep 22, 2018

lemonadesweetheart posted:

Met an auld dear on the way back from the polling station. She told me we have to vote sinn fein and transfer left. She read it on facebook.

seems TransferLeft has been really successful messaging - you love to see it

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

lemonadesweetheart posted:

Rubberbandits have a podcast.

would second this - though it's Marmite to some people, and he talks out of his hole a fair bit, as much as I like him.


Counts are looking good lads - Aontu probably won't get the 2% funding, Gary Gannon will probably beat out the FF candidate if TransferLeft is a real thing, SF outpacing the exit poll nationally...

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Sep 22, 2018

forkboy84 posted:

What about the royalist commie tho?

he's gotten 63 votes total so far, so not looking great. but when did a royalist ever worry about popular assent?

https://twitter.com/RTEdubSOUTHWEST/status/1226470565038501888/photo/1

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
oh ffs

https://twitter.com/RTEdubCENTRAL/status/1226488967496962048

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
https://twitter.com/AineMcMahon/status/1226595574268514306?s=20

honestly so sad right now. alexa play aphex twin - windowlicker


e: lmao at the Brexit/Kipper accounts who are crowing because they think Leo won't get his seat and their tiny gammon minds cannot handle STV


e2:

https://twitter.com/richiem42/status/1226580145743507457?s=20

Failed Imagineer fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Feb 9, 2020

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
https://twitter.com/Oireachtas_RX/status/1226616409599434760?s=20

sic transit gloria

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Shoehead posted:

The absolute state of Dublin-bay South, though. My drat landlord voted for Eoghan Murphy

I mean...of loving course they did

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Sep 22, 2018

OwlFancier posted:

Historically good result for SF yeah?

Yeah

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

adhuin posted:

Wait a minute.

You have a top down distribution of 2nd preferences? (Winners shed their extra votes?)

Instead of more traditional bottoms up, where losers votes are redistributed one by one, until only winners are left.

Yes we use STV, not FPTP, and it's good


E: as already stated, the loser votes get rolled in at the end

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Sep 22, 2018

Guavanaut posted:

You can have STV systems without redistribution of 2nd prefs from winners, just last place eliminated and recount. That doesn't make it FPTP.

Sure, fine. But we don't do that, and it's not usually what people are talking about when they big up STV

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
I would happily change religion to get an extra bank holiday. Luckily my current religion (socialism) already believes in maximising holiday days

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Sep 22, 2018
the IRA can blow up a few minor royals, as a treat

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Sep 22, 2018

The Question IRL posted:

Why is everyone saying that if FF/FG get into power than the Housing Crisis will be over in 18-24 months?

They have had years to fix it and it has just gotten worse. Oh but all of a sudden now they will actually try to fix it.

Who is this "everyone"? The Independent?

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Mandatory drunk driving, but only if you've had a big roast dinner to soak it up

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Sep 22, 2018

The Question IRL posted:

People in this thread have been saying it.

Fair enough I glazed over that post, but uhhh I don't think it's based in any kind of reasonable analysis of how hosed the property market is tbh

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
I wish I shared the optimism, but I can see a bunch of high-density fancydan flats being built in the radius of Silicon Docks and gently caress all elsewhere (and definitely not in the non-Dublin RPZs). Now this obviously takes some of the worst pressure off a certain segment of the housing market, but it's not what you'd call a holistic solution.

Though I would agree that we're standing at a political inflection point, where the name of the game could flip from "who can enrich landlords fastest" to "who can build housing stock fastest". But without a leftist ideology in the Housing Dept. it's gonna be some wildly poo poo compromise between those two poles

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Sep 22, 2018
I'm honestly fascinated by the prospect. I wonder how much temporary unifying power Mary Lou could wield by baldly stating "FFG are trying to set us up to fail, but if we swallow our pride for a couple of years we can permanently shake their grip on the country's bollocks"

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Yeah... :negative:

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
I assume he means "Kumbaya", but i don't wanna kinkshame the Greens

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Sep 22, 2018

Venomous posted:

Were Labour ever socialists or even social democrats at all, or were they always useless centrists?

They expelled the Trots at the end of the 80s and they've been loving awful ever since AFAIK

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
It's a little bit telling when one has to appeal to unknowable counterfactuals about how bad things could have been, rather than any concrete political gains. It's a very UK LibDem message, and about as convincing

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Sep 22, 2018

Blut posted:

Its pretty far from an unknowable counterfactual when FG are well established as the most economically right wing party in Irish politics. Literally any other party going into government with them drags the government towards the center. FG were on record as advocating for even more cuts to public services during the 2011 government than what we actually got.

So why bother voting for Labour then? Literally any other party will suffice

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Sep 22, 2018

Arquinsiel posted:

I've been told by various organisers of the push for MarRef that when he was asked about it at various events he laughed and told them it'd never happen. Also when he became a Minister Matt stopped playing Magic the Gathering in Gamer's World on Jervis street, apparently "just in case".

In case what? Does Warhammer make you double-gay?

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