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That's a mark and a half  https://twitter.com/stkildafc/status/1278649124750004225 monolithburger fucked around with this message at 12:26 on Jul 2, 2020 |
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Jul 2, 2020 14:26
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I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. The Saints player tried to dispose of it immediately, unsuccessfully. The Carlton player tried to spin away, got caught, THEN tried to dispose of it unsuccessfully. Right call in both cases I’d say.
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Jul 2, 2020 15:11
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He dropped the ball, though. You can make various prior opportunity arguments and all, or debate about the ball being "knocked out", but if someone literally drops the ball in an attempt to kick it, and then fails to make any contact, it surely has to be a free kick.
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Jul 2, 2020 15:31
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Yeah that should have been a free kick
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Jul 2, 2020 17:00
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Saints player also fell on his back.
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cmndstab posted:He dropped the ball, though. realbez posted:Yeah that should have been a free kick Do you guys even know the rules? "Dropping the ball" is not a rule. There is nothing about dropping the ball in the laws of the game. The law you're trying to apply is "Incorrect disposal", and the incorrect disposal law is pretty clear that a player must either have had prior opportunity before an incorrect disposal for it to be penalised OR if there was no prior then it must have been a deliberate act (ie a throw). So as long as there was attempt (in this case there was, because he was trying to kick it but didn't get his foot to it) then it's not a free. So yes, cmndstab, I will be making the "prior opportunity" argument, because it's in the laws. If you take possession of the ball and attempt to dispose of it IMMEDIATELY then you cannot be pinged for holding the ball, whether the disposal was correct or not as long as there was a legitimate attempt. Now you can argue about whether that's how it SHOULD be or not, but you're arguing with the rules of the game, not the inconsistency of the umpires in that case. I know they're usually a shitshow, but that clip shown above is an example of the laws being interpreted correctly. 
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Jul 2, 2020 22:24
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I haven't read the rules word by word, no. Under what circumstances would a player "elect" to incorrectly dispose of the ball? Are you saying that literally every "incorrect disposal" free kick in history (or at least since those version of the rules were written) was either wrong, or the player chose to incorrectly dispose of the ball?
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Forum Joe posted:Do you guys even know the rules? Maybe you should read the rules you're highlighting? Did the player genuinely attempt to dispose of the ball correctly? No. Did the tackle cause the football to be dislodged? No, the player chose to drop it as soon as the tackle was applied.
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Jul 2, 2020 23:03
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Solemn Sloth posted:Did the player genuinely attempt to dispose of the ball correctly? No. Yes! he clearly dropped the ball in attempt to kick it, and then missed with his foot because he was being tackled. You HAVE to drop the ball to kick it, from a physics point of view. If you are holding a thing, I’d really like to see you try to kick it without dropping it first.
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cmndstab posted:
Nah, mate. A throw is not a legal disposes but is a deliberate action, so any throw of the ball is not a genuine attempt. But a drop is a required part of an attempt to kick, so if you drop it and then swing your foot at it, it’s a genuine attempt at correct disposal. As for “every incorrect disposal free kick in history”, remember that these rules only apply if there’s no prior. If there IS prior opportunity then there has to be a successful disposal, not just an attempt at one. So if that st kilda player had an extra second before being tackled and THEN did exactly the same thing, that would be incorrect disposal. Free kick Carlton.
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Forum Joe posted:Do you guys even know the rules? The most pathetic post in the history of this thread.
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Quantum Shart posted:The most pathetic post in the history of this thread. lol
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Quantum Shart posted:The most pathetic post in the history of this thread.
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Qld strong https://twitter.com/DanielCherny/status/1278877386952474624 drunkill fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Jul 3, 2020 |
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I thought we’d be staying in Sydney for a while since we are already there but the news sites were predicting the hawks would be going to Queensland for some reason. Anyway our next few are ok, 3 games at giants stadium.
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North Melbourne finally relocated to the Gold Coast. The AFL won that fight in the end.
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Should have sent a team to Tasmania.
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ROUND SIX Thursday, July 9 Geelong v Brisbane, SCG, 7.40pm AEST Friday, Jul 10 Collingwood v Hawthorn, Giants Stadium, 7.50pm AEST Saturday, July 11 Fremantle v St Kilda, Metricon Stadium, 12.35pm AEST West Coast v Adelaide, Gabba, 3.05pm AEST Melbourne v Gold Coast, Giants Stadium, 6.05pm AEST Essendon v North Melbourne, Metricon Stadium, 7.40pm AEST Sunday, July 12 Port Adelaide v GWS, Metricon Stadium, 1.05pm AEST Richmond v Sydney, Gabba, 3.35pm AEST Carlton v Western Bulldogs, Metricon Stadium, 6.45pm AEST ROUND SEVEN Thursday, July 16 Geelong v Collingwood, Optus Stadium. 6.10pm AWST, 8.10 AEST Friday, July 17 Essendon v Western Bulldogs, Metricon Stadium, 7.50pm AEST Saturday, July 18 GWS v Brisbane, Giants Stadium, 1.45pm AEST Sydney v Gold Coast, SCG, 4.35pm AEST Richmond v North Melbourne, Metricon Stadium, 7.40pm AEST Sunday, July 19 Carlton v Port Adelaide, Gabba, 1.05pm AEST Hawthorn v Melbourne, Giants Stadium, 3.35pm AEST Fremantle v West Coast, Optus Stadium, 4.35pm AWST, 6.35pm AEST Monday, July 20 Adelaide v St Kilda, Adelaide Oval, 7.10pm ACST, 7.40pm AEST
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Sounds like they’ve added a “ball” sound to the fake crowd noise
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Jul 3, 2020 11:04
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The evolution of the sound board is by far the most entertaining part of this season
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Jul 3, 2020 11:19
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It is getting better and their reaction times are pretty good
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Jul 3, 2020 11:35
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I'm just waiting for the first distinguishable "You white maggot". That's when you know the technology is up to scratch.
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https://twitter.com/7AFL/status/1279012584377610240 I see nothing wrong with this at all, seriously. It's a rule - and the ball is quite clearly going to bounce into the post without fully crossing, even if you remove the umpire.
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Yeah it seems pretty cut and dry and oh boy oh boy BT is nauseating.
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Diet Crack posted:https://twitter.com/7AFL/status/1279012584377610240 I disagree with the replay tech asserting it was clearly going to hit the post regardless of the umpire But, it’s still absolutely the correct outcome.
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lol however at a completely normal tackle being "Dangerous" and gifting the Pies a needed goal.
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Need to play the ANZAC Day game in July each year now. Seriously if this Essendon or even Collingwood played Carlton last week they’d smash them so who the gently caress knows anymore.
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Spedman posted:Sounds like they’ve added a “ball” sound to the fake crowd noise it's what I was calling for from the first return game a couple weeks ago, glad they've finally caught up. thepokey posted:Need to play the ANZAC Day game in July each year now. Fourth of July game?
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harperdc posted:it's what I was calling for from the first return game a couple weeks ago, glad they've finally caught up. Should have been the 2nd of July game to match the number of disposals Cox had
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Forum Joe posted:As for “every incorrect disposal free kick in history”, remember that these rules only apply if there’s no prior. If there IS prior opportunity then there has to be a successful disposal, not just an attempt at one. So if that st kilda player had an extra second before being tackled and THEN did exactly the same thing, that would be incorrect disposal. Free kick Carlton. No, I get that, but the umpires make a clear distinction between "holding the ball" and "incorrect disposal". I have no data to back this up, but it feels to me like there are several a game where they umpires specifically call "incorrect disposal" and they're not all throws. I don't know, it feels wrong to me but if those are the rules as written, fair enough.
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When they say incorrect disposal it’s always after saying and signalling holding the ball, I think. It’s a reason for paying holding the ball, and isn’t used for throws.
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Diet Crack posted:/7AFL/status/1279012584377610240 Time to bring in hawkeye and ball tracking. Largepotato fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Jul 3, 2020 |
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With that ball hitting the goal umpire... shouldn’t they have balled it up at the top of the square or something? I thought it was play on when the ball hits an umpire, and it bounced back into play but then everyone stopped to wait for the score review. But the ball never crossed the goal line so there shouldn’t have been a score, right? There’s no umpire before post rule or anything so why didn’t they restart play with a ball up?
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gently caress me this is going to be a long rear end game unless the Eagles clean their poo poo up
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Who's number eight for the Eagles? He might want to think about what he's going to do next week
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Newman, Sheahan, Scott, and Winmar reached a settlement out of court, with $100k cash to the Michael Long Foundation and a public apology from the trio to Winmar. A very good result. Looking forward to Newman having a pissbaby moan on socials because the mediation was led by a black (Wiradjuri broadcaster and academic Stan Grant) and a Jew (retired federal court judge Raymond Finkelstein) NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Jul 4, 2020 |
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De Goey has been charged with sexual assault
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I don't know who is responsible for the mullets on the Eagles team but they should be ashamed of themselves
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NPR Journalizard posted:I don't know who is responsible for the mullets on the Eagles team but they should be ashamed of themselves Guarantee they're giving each other haircuts in the hotel
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