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The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

Let's get a little crazy. Let's have some fun.

https://i.imgur.com/LIyvDtc.mp4
Welcome to the 2020 thread for the Australian Football League and Australian Football League Women's; the national top-tier competitions of Australian Rules Football.

What is AFL?
This 5 minute video aimed at Americans should hopefully explain the basics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMZYZcoAcU0 <<<< watch this

Footy, as it is known to the masses, is a fast-paced, full contact, 360 degree game which takes place on a truly massive (and non-standard sized) field of turf with 18 players on both teams chasing a leather ball around the place which can lead to some big hits and some impressive displays of skills.
It is also one of the highest attended domestic sports league in the world with over 1 million paid up members (think seat/season pass holders) in Australia (Population 25 million) with many more spectators.

https://i.imgur.com/OOSZEAH.gifv
A brief history
Australian football was devised around the Victorian gold rush years as something for cricketers to "keep fit" over summer, with the rules inspired by Marngrook, a game played by the indigenous peoples of Western Victoria. The first "organised" game of this new code was played out in 1858. As it existed then was basically dozens of players chasing the ball around a huge paddock, before the rules got refined to more suited to being played on cricket ovals.

This lead to the Victorian Football Association (VFA) being formed soon after - matches were initially arranged on an ad-hoc basis, but soon took on a league structure. Around this time the game spread to the other states, having had the most impact in South Australia, Western Australia and Tasmania.

The Victorian Football League (VFL) was established by eight Melbourne teams in 1897 as a breakaway of the VFA, which remained as the second-tier league in Victoria.

The VFL remained a Victorian-based competition for most of its history, with SA and WA also hosting strong state leagues, as well as numerous suburban country leagues, however with the money and crowds concentrated in Melbourne, this caused a drift of the better players to the VFL through the 1960s and 70s. There was some state vs state competition, more on that below.

Eventually the VFL began to expand interstate with the relocation of South Melbourne to Sydney in 1982, with subsequent expansions in 1987 to West Coast in Perth and the Brisbane Bears in Gold Coast (they moved into Brisbane a few years latter). While the main aim was to establish the national competition with an eye to TV rights, half the Victorian teams were flat broke so the license fees raised from the expenses were used to bail them out.

With The Adelaide Crows in 1990, the VFL changed its name to the Australian Football League to reflect the national competition. The next new entrants were Fremantle in 1995, Port Adelaide in 1997, while Fitzroy "merged" with the Bears to become the Brisbane Lions. The current VFL is essentially the old VFA with both local standalone teams and reserves teams of the Victorian AFL clubs. Likewise the SANFL and WAFL have much the same status, along with the NEAFL which covers NSW, Queensland, the ACT (Canberra) and the Northern Territory.

In the early 2010s, the Gold Coast Suns and Greater Western Sydney Giants were added to the comp, so every mainland state now has at least two clubs, while Tasmania, which is football mad but also kind of poor, gets to watch a few games a year hosted by Hawthorn (in Launceston) and North Melbourne (in Hobart). I'm sure you found all this fascinating to read.

Most recently the biggest threat to the league's continued existence is Gillon McLachlan and league Manager of Football Operations Steve Hocking coming up with stupid brainwaves that no-one really wants, like AFLX (which has finally died in the arse), 17-5 (which proposes to make the last five rounds of the home-and-away season completely irrelevant) and shortened half-time breaks because who gives a poo poo about everyone at the game lining up for a pee?
https://i.imgur.com/ajIwnfj.mp4

What the gently caress is going on?
The aim of the game is to win possession on the ball and kick it through the middle two set of big white sticks, which will earn you 6 points. If you kick it between the tall and the little post or the ball hits the goal post or is touched by any player going across the goal line it is worth 1 point.

At the start of every quarter (20 minutes + time on, usually 30m all up) and after a goal has been scored the ball is brought to the middle for a ball up/centre bounce where two ruckmen will try to tap the ball to the advantage of their teammates, think of a basketball jump ball.

The two main legal ways of passing the ball are via kicking and handballing, in any direction - there are no offside rules.

If a player takes a mark (catch) at least 15m away from a kick which has not been touched by another player or has hit the ground an umpire awards a free kick, allowing the player to either play on or collect themselves for a few seconds to take an uninterrupted kick. Hand balling is punching the ball with a closed fist out of the palm of your other hand, players are not allowed to throw the ball and will have a free kick awarded against them if they do.

It is legal to tackle an opponent with the ball between the shoulders and the knees. If successful and the opposing player was run down or had prior opportunity to dispose of the ball but didn't, a free kick is rewarded. Usually the crowd will advise the umpires that someone was holding the "BALLLLL". Otherwise if the ball gets tied up, the umpire will throw the ball up for t

Oh yeah, you have to bounce (or ground) the ball every 15 meters if you're running, being an oval ball it does not bounce quite like a basketball.

For more information read the general rules and composition of matches here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_rules_football#Laws_of_the_game

Some marks are more spectacular than others, so being Australian we obviously call them speccys or screamers. Yes, you can stand on peoples backs if you're legitimately going for the ball.
https://i.imgur.com/EkmYHeX.mp4

The structure of the competition which runs from March to September/October is thus: 18 teams, 23 rounds of football (including a byes for each team), the top 8 teams get to play in the finals. The top 4 teams on the ladder get a double chance to stay in if they lose in the first week, and everyone else does elimination finals from the get go. The final 2 teams play in the Grand Final for the Premiership held in the last weekend of September or the first weekend of October depending which week the season starts.



https://i.imgur.com/HQrI0gU.mp4

AFLW
The first season of the national women's competition kicked off in 2017 with 8 teams which are all aligned with the existing men's teams (see below). In 2019 it expanded to 10 teams and the upcoming 2020 season will see the introduction of 4 more expansion team to bring the total to 14.

It is a semi-professional competition running during the summer months with players only having 5 months long contracts and training in the evening after schooling or fulltime work, they aren't paid much either with the maximum player payment set between $13,400 and $24,600, compared to the men who are paid between $100,000-$1,300,000 per season.

The 2020 AFLW season kicks off 9th February. The two conferences of 7 teams play 8 weeks of matches, including 2 against teams from the other conference. The finals now go for 3 weeks with elimination and preliminary final stages before the grand final.

See the third post of the thread for AFLW season 2019 information.

https://i.imgur.com/RgY4KCz.mp4

State of Origin (a footnote)
In the ooold days, the state leagues used to send representative teams to play each other fairly regularly, sometimes in carnivals. Victoria, SA and WA were the traditional powers, with Tasmania usually being able to put together a reasonable team. Before 1977 they could pick any player playing in their league so the VFL teams often included a few native Croweaters and Sandgropers.

Starting from 1977 the state games continued but now the players could only play for their "state of origin", i.e. where they had played their junior football. (The funniest SoO result was when NSW defeated Victoria in 1990, although the "origin" rules where fudged a bit as Sydney Swans players could be picked for the NSW side to bolster the actual locals from the south of NSW where Aussie rules is pretty strong.)

You may be thinking that sounds familiar, but isn't State of Origin a rugby thing? Well, the rugby league State of Origin started in 1980 on the same principles - there were a lot of Queensland players playing in the NSWRFL competition, so the SoO rules evened things up - more so in fact, since the Queenslanders have generally dominated the series since. There's also a bit more fizz as the Blues and Maroons genuinely want to trample each other into the mud, plus there are also usually national team places at stake.

Getting back to Aussie rules, with the game being a little more widespread, in the 1990s the concept boiled down to four teams, Vic, SA, WA and the Allies to represent the rest of the country. However, increased professionalism also dealt the death knell to these matches as clubs were averse to the risk of their players being injured in what were fairly meaningless games.

The last time any such game was played in 2008 between Victoria and the All-Stars as a one-off "Hall of Fame". As part of the bushfire relief funding, another such game is being staged on 28th February, during the preseason fixtures. It will be held in Docklands, which might be handy to keep the smoke out if the country is still on fire.

The Deadly Hume fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Jan 26, 2020

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The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

Let's get a little crazy. Let's have some fun.

The Teams:

ADELAIDE CROWS
First AFL season: 1991
Premierships: 2 - 1997, 1998
Their most recent peak was 2017 when they made the grand final, although it's arguable if they turned up. Since then they've been fair to middling, and have gone through a review of their operations. Whether this means an end to power stances, walking on coals, and nude hacky-sack sessions remains to be seen.


BRISBANE LIONS
First AFL season: 1997 (merger of Fitzroy Lions and Brisbane Bears)
Premierships: 3 - 2001, 2002, 2003 (8 as Fitzroy - 1898, 1899, 1904, 1905, 1913, 1916, 1922, 1944)
The Brions have struggled a bit since their three-peat era, but looked more promising of late, with their rebuilding efforts bearing fruit with their best season in age last year, although when they got into the finals maybe their inexperience let them down. Still legit one of the more exciting teams to watch at the moment.


CARLTON BLUES
First VFL season: 1897 - foundation club
Premierships: 16 - 1906, 1907, 1908, 1914, 1915, 1938, 1945, 1947, 1968, 1970, 1972, 1979, 1981, 1982, 1987, 1995
Those of us whose hair is greying and falling out can remember when Carlton were the cashed-up bogeyman side of the VFL, but for the last couple of decades they've been putrid. Some green shoots did emerge in the latter half of last season with Patrick Cripps leading the way (changing the coach probably helped as well) which may suggest they may do better this year, but I'll believe it when I see it.


COLLINGWOOD MAGPIES
First VFL season: 1897 - foundation club
Premierships: 15 - 1902, 1903, 1910, 1917, 1919, 1927, 1928, 1929, 1930, 1935, 1936, 1953, 1958, 1990, 2010
The "biggest" club in Australia, a country that regularly elects governments completely divorced from reality, so take that as you will. After bottling the 2018 GF, they were at the losing end of one of the worst great preliminary finals in recent history as they fell just short of overhauling the lead they gave the Giants in the third quarter.


ESSENDON BOMBERS
First VFL season: 1897 - foundation club
Premierships: 16 - 1897, 1901, 1911, 1912, 1923, 1924, 1942, 1946, 1949, 1950, 1962, 1965, 1984, 1985, 1993, 2000
Took up a space in the finals with a percentage of 95% (they did get 12 wins, but still) and as has been the case in every final since 2004, lost it. I guess that makes up for the time they DQed from the finals for, well, that thing. Fun thing to watch will be how sulky Joe Daniher gets now he has to hang around the Hangar for a nother year.


FREMANTLE DOCKERS
First AFL season: 1995
Premierships: none
The team is basically Cow Dude and a random bunch of gronks at the moment, but maybe now they've finally ditched Ross Lyon, and taken on Justin Longmuir, they might also dispense with the idea of kicking a few token goals and then turtling hoping the opposition doesn't score more than them.


GEELONG CATS
First VFL season: 1897 - foundation club
Premierships: 9 - 1925, 1931, 1937, 1951, 1952, 1963, 2007, 2009, 2011
Won the minor premiership last year and looked the most impressive going into the finals, but then tripped up. They lost Tim Kelly to West Coast in the off-season so while one person doesn't make a team, that's probably going to peg them back a bit.


GOLD COAST SUNS
First AFL season: 2011
Premierships: none
Another point of evidence supporting the hypothesis that the entire Gold Coast region is cursed and the sooner it finally washes into the sea the better. Another poo poo season will only lead to more questions as to why this team exists when even a Tasmanian club split between Hobart and Launie sounds like a more viable option.


GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY (GWS) GIANTS
First AFL season: 2012
Premierships: none
Like Aldi, slowly gaining respect in this country as a legitimate option but still mainly known for the aisle of weird specials like Toby Greene. Won the right to play in the Grand Final but forfeited for some reason - maybe they were all tired out. Anyway they did prevent a Richmond v Collingwood grand final so let's give them props for that.


HAWTHORN HAWKS
First AFL season: 1925
Premierships: 13 - 1961, 1971, 1976, 1978, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 2008, 2013, 2014, 2015
Another Victorian jerk club (see Carlton/Essendon), however having had a brush with a fate worse than death (merging with Melbourne) in the 90s, actually reworked their Machiavellian ethos for the modern era where if you're going to cheat, do it legally.
They had a 11-11 season in 2019, have Tom Mitchell coming back and bring Jono Patton in another one of those trades only Hawthorn can get away with, so more upside than down in 2020.


MELBOURNE DEMONS
First VFL season: 1897 - foundation club
Premierships: 10 - 1900, 1926, 1939, 1940, 1941, 1948, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1959, 1960, 1964
The Dees came out of the wilderness in 2018 only to discover they didn't like civilisation so returned to the wilderness in 2019. The Victorian Alps haven't completely burned out yet so there's always Buller for a few more years at least.


NORTH MELBOURNE KANGAROOS
First VFL season: 1925
Premierships: 4 - 1975, 1977, 1996, 1999
Tyrannosaurus, christ it's so goddamn tall.
Tyrannosaurus, tiny hands to hold the ball
When Rex is on the warpath, all the other reptiles flee
Tyrannosaurus is the monster that will eat both you and me


PORT ADELAIDE POWER
First AFL season: 1997
Premierships: 1 2004
They're celebrating 150 years this year, so as I've made a few snide comments about old VFL clubs, Port definitely qualify as the SA equivalent as the only non-Victorian club with a legacy identity dating back before Warwick Capper. Went 11-11 last year, my profound analysis is that they could go up, they could go down, or they could remain about the same. Ken Hinkley's probably gone if they don't make the finals, though.


RICHMOND TIGERS
First VFL season: 1908
Premierships: 12 - 1920, 1921, 1932, 1934, 1943, 1967, 1969, 1973, 1974, 1980, 2017, 2019
Another old-skool team that were functionally useless for decades, but suddenly they've won 2 flags in the last 3 seasons, their numerous deranged fans have something positive to be obnoxious about, and it's scary. They can reasonably be expected to maintain their level for 2020, which means more misery for opposition fans.


ST KILDA SAINTS
First VFL season: 1897 - foundation club
Premierships: 1 1966
I can't really read the Saints at the moment, they've looked 3-4 decent players short of a finals team for years now, but at the same time have also not been bog awful - most of the time. They have moved back into Moorabbin as their training base, which should be fine as long as they don't set up the old nightclub as well.


SYDNEY SWANS
First VFL season: 1897 - foundation club (as South Melbourne)
Premierships: 5 - 1909, 1918, 1933, 2005, 2012
For a club that has been a formidable opponent for the best past of two decades, they fell way off the pace in 2019. Buddy can still do his "thing" at times but spent a lot of the year injured, and the tail end of that contract is looking more of a liability.


WEST COAST EAGLES
First VFL season: 1987
Premierships: 4 - 1992, 1994, 2006, 2018
Put up what I would call a respectable flag defence last year, only missing out on the double chance on percentage and earned what was basically a walkover against Essendon, although were eventually knocked out in the semi. With the addition of Tim Kelly in the trade from Geelong, they should have another good year.


WESTERN BULLDOGS
First VFL season: 1925
Premierships: 2 1954, 2016
If their 2016 flag was a fluke - a wonderful, heartwarming fluke that it was - then their 2019 performance in returning to the finals with a great second-half run with most of that team (in particular THE BONT) was probably only second to the Lions' revival as the most improved team stakes. If they can keep it up, that is in the lap of the dogs.

Tipping
Join the goon tipping squad!

If you're new or got purged the link is thus:
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pw: goons

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I'm not Australian and I want to watch this crazy sport
Cool, other than illegal streams, the best bet would be burchasing a WatchAFL pass. This is only for international audiences (or those with a VPN for Australians) and has every game of the season shown live or on demand.
https://www.watchafl.com.au/

If you buy an international membership [example] from a club you will support that team financially and receive a goodie bag of membership items along with a WatchAFL subscription.

For Australians, if Channel 7 isn't showing enough footy for you or you hate ads, you can sign up for Kayo and stream every game live or on demand. Sadly you're supporting murdoch at the same time if you do.

Links
What is AFL? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMZYZcoAcU0
http://www.afl.com.au/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_rules_football
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Football_League
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_Australian_rules_football
https://australianfootball.com/
https://www.watchafl.com.au/

2019 thread - https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3880845
2018 thread - https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3845962

https://i.imgur.com/zrVWE5c.mp4
(Toby Greene ^)


The Deadly Hume fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Jan 26, 2020

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

Let's get a little crazy. Let's have some fun.

AFLW 2020


The Deadly Hume fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Jan 26, 2020

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

Let's get a little crazy. Let's have some fun.

Yep, doing lots of editing at the moment - somethings you don't notice until it goes live. I basically recycled last years post and did a bit of editing, so I may have missed updating a few things.

If anyone else has stuff I'll throw those in as well.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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Lets see, in the dim dark recesses of the past exhibition games were played on baseball pitches, specifically Joe Robbie Stadium in Miami and Yokohama Stadium.

Even in LA I think a crowd of 10-20 thousand is optimistic so they wouldn't need anything that big, so just find some baseball pitch with a few stands without an outfield wall, throw some turf over the outfield - it'll suck for the players but not be much worse than Docklands or Stadium Australia has been at time - and play ball!

Either that or there are a bunch of cricket ovals at Woodley but they are literally park ovals so while you could definitely play footy on them, staging a professional fixture is another matter entirely.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@34.1798757,-118.4772537,1059m/data=!3m1!1e3

Fun fact: Sydney Showground was the baseball venue in the 2000 Olympics - they reconfigured it when the Giants were set up.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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Yeah the last game between Freo and Geelong was the best of the round - more open play, more kicks and handpasses finding targets.

The Moorabbin game wasn't bad either although obviously the Dogs experience told there.

I get the feeling the league likes the 15 minute quarters because it means they can schedule the games into 2 hour slots, but they're definitely too short for my liking.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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8 clubs in the first VFL season. Richmond and :laugh: University joined in 1908. Next intake was North, Footscray and Hawthorn in 1925.

Actually found this decent chart on the Wikipedia article.


We felt very sorry for the token Saints supporter in primary school.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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Haven't had much guernsey chat for the dudes this year, mostly because most clubs haven't messed around with things too much.

- Essendon have gone to Under Armour. The new stuff looks fine, maybe a wider sash.

- Carlton have gone to Puma, which sees Nike exit the AFL space.

- St Kilda are being supplied by ISC but Dare have taken up the collar space normally used by the manufacturer. I like the white clash at least. For training jumpers they've used the 90s designs (both the red and the yellow Pura Milk version)

- Gold Coast seem to be doing something similar with the space ISC didn't want to buy. Honestly their jumper could use a major do-over anyway, maybe it'll change their luck. Maybe something with myrtle, rose and yellow...

- Collingwood are doing commemoratives - home is a throwback to 2010 which wasn't the best design but hey they won a flag in it. The away on the other hand is a rehash of the 1990 jumper and it looks gooood. Like, they should go back to the white as their main anyway.

- Brisbane have gone to Classic (who mostly do RL stuff) who have apparently botched the jumpers and had to do a do-over. Also a new clash design which is a maroon vee on white with the lion overlaid.

- Adelaide's messing with their clash again (which was one of the better ones out there) and have gone with a design that won a people's vote a couple of years back - basically the tricolour but shrunk and with a white crow on top.

- Port Adelaide are going the whole hog for their 150th, so of course the Prisonbars are coming out for their "home" Showdown and the pale blue and white hoops are getting a run as well at some point. Along with their usual black with the vees as well as the grey clash (now with the white panel)

- North have decided to do pinstripes but from what I've seen they're wider than the traditional 70s look, and they look kind of... bad. Will have to see how they look on the field I guess.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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NTRabbit posted:

It's from the infamous rigged fan poll, where they picked the winner in advance and had it in production already, and had it starting the fan poll with a 500k vote lead. They hoped nobody would notice, but they were wrong, and someone built a vote spamming bot that proved it.

If memory serves, the 'winner' before they had to reverse their decision was one with a giant rendition of our ugly rear end traced Baltimore Ravens logo, that to this day the club still insists looks nothing like the Ravens logo and is tremendously popular with the kids so they won't be chjanging it. One of the fine legacies of the Stephen Trigg years.
Yeah it's ten years old and it looks it. It's pretty funny how some logos don't really date that badly, Essendon probably don't have to do anything with theirs despite it being over 20 years old.

Anyway the AFL itself has commissioned a new/updated logo which should come out sometime this year apparently so that's going to be FINE.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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Freo's kicking is something else today. Bit of argy bargy too...

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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MRP might be busy :wtc:

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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In any family of Collingwood supporters, there will always be the one rebel who follows St Kilda.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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At least we don't hear much from Basil in the east these days because of his commitment to the local racist breakfast show.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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*Mutters darkly about the unholy alliance between the AFL, CD and :airquote:betting partners:airquote:*

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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More annoyed about Rio Tinto on the jumpers even if they have gotten out of coal.

Anyway pretty entertaining so far - probably because no-one is giving a poo poo about defensive structures.

The new font in Seven's graphics package is OK I guess, not sure about the open 4 but.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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About half the tackle count of typical recent premiership games so everyone is taking the "oh god try not to injure anyone" pact seriously.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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The ghost of Ted Whitten came down at 3/4 time and gave the Vics a rev up

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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It was truly one of the few games I was tempted to get a refund for because just ugh.

Obviously it wasn't going to have the polish and features of something like FM or OOTP but jesus...

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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Since I'll get it for free I'll have a look. It's not out until the 14th but going by the screenshots I'm not optimistic.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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Yeah it was pretty likely for a while..

I will probably go to the Carlton v St Kilda on Saturday since I'm in town for the weekend. First time at Princes Park in over 30 years. I wonder if it still smells like piss.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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Well, they were good in the first quarter but after that just weren't connecting. I mean two of their four goals were from catching Carlton napping on the centre clearance.

Glad I went though. The 19 tram back to the city was utterly ridiculous though (down to 20 min frequency by 9pm). As in, I didn't even get on it because it was so packed.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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They've both got their games against Freo to come as well so those will be interesting too.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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A little reminder for the tipping comp (it may ask you to reactivate)
https://www.footytips.com.au/comps/SASTips&p=goons

I am not changing anything so it'll be pretty vanilla:

- Comp finishes after home and away
- Away teams for forgotten tips

Flexi and Streak are on by default but I don't think anyone's ever paid attention to those here.

No money in, no money out, it's just a fun thing to get angry about.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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In the dim past of the NSWRFL (what's effectively the NRL now), they actually had seasons start with a couple of Wednesday games in the early rounds.

But yeah, AFL games usually need 5-6 days between, with exceptions like when the Anzac Day game is on Wednesday. Only other precedent is when Night Premiership games were played on Tuesday nights in the 70s and 80s.

Thing is this situation is going to be most of the year. The Olympics are probably done (maybe postponed a year), a lot of other poo poo is going to be up in the air, only advantage sport has over other entertainment is you don't necessarily need a crowd particularly if it's on TV if everyone's fit, but it's going to have a hell of a weird feel about it. And since up to a third of the population is likely to be infected at some point we're going to see outright cancellations at some point.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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I might have to petition for a thread change to "there isn't even footy" if this keeps up.

gently caress this year.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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Did admit I was thinking about cancelling because, well, it's ALL cancelled. Maybe only esports left. :laugh:

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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I haven't felt this creeped out since watching the Sixth Sense

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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Stupid virus.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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Seeing as the state governments are all putting in place wider shutdowns in the next few days, today's going to be the last day of footy we'll see for a while.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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Man I really jinxed it with the thread title.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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The stupid thing is that when I did the thread, the virus was still this weird flu in China which I thought was going to be like SARS or whatever - serious enough that we might need to keep an eye on it, not something that would basically stop the world economy in its tracks and turn everyone into a hikikomori.

That was only two months ago.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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We've had private ownership of clubs before and it didn't work out well. The Roos floated around about 1986 (and only went back to the full membership model in 2006) so in that respect it may have saved them, meanwhile it's not much of an coincidence why the Swans and (then) Bears were clown shows when they were privately owned.

But then even with the "traditional" clubs, before the cap came in, clubs were going into debt poaching star recruits from each other even though that was one of the things zoning was meant to prevent. (If you've seen the actual zoning maps, they were pretty farcical.)

The salary cap in the VFL actually came about because some of the VFL decision makers were visiting the US, and got the idea straight from David Stern around about the time he'd brought that in for the NBA.
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/28517677/how-david-stern-little-help-tv-star-changed-aussie-rules-history

As for this season, well, it's a write-off frankly. It's possible that restrictions may ease up by about August, so I am thinking that the window for a competition will be so short, with players and staff coming back into it cold.

Absolute best case scenario is they get, maybe 12 weeks, with that they could do a split conference system like the AFLW, have the top 3 or 4 from each in the finals, but they need to have that done by late October. So that's still late July they would have to start by then if they have shorter breaks between games and play through the week.

Most likely, the season gets blanked.

Worst case scenario, everyone dies, not due to the virus but because the Yellowstone finally decided to burst right open and bust forth oceans of molten gooey death, followed a couple of weeks later by an asteroid.

I can't see that happening, even though we are still very early in this crisis and honestly sport is one of those things that can take a backseat until we get some sort of normalcy again. Whenever the gently caress that is.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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I'll have to wait for the PC release for Evo 2.

Meantime, with no live footy, it's given me time to concentrate on putting the history stuff for GRAFT up. Most of it's geared around the ratings because why bother duplicating AFL Tables (since that's where I pulled my data from anyway) but there's still a lot of things on the list to add.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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Every day is Mad Monday

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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snaeksikn posted:

Peanut butter m&m's will change your life

Yeah anaphylactic shock is pretty life changing.

Cherry Ripes and Bountys are fine even if you have to pick your teeth afterward.

I liked Violet Crumbles better than Crunchies, don't know what the deal with those was. Also you find the "boutique" sweet shops usually do a pretty good honeycomb in chocolate.

But basically I'm about the Chokito. (Wasn't super fussed about OAK's recent Chokito in a carton thing.)

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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Put the hosting rights up for bid, the venue must have 80000 seats to ameliorate the caterwauling about there not being enough grand final tickets.

That sort of talk leads to Stadium Australia being used as a grand final venue.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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It'll probably be a severely truncated season - by the sounds of it we may get start getting games without crowds in around early July, although that's going to be one hell of a squeeze - possibly using conferences and a shortened finals series and some teams won't even meet this year.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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They're kind of constrained to October because
- T20 World Cup (if that's still a goer)
- if they finish any later that starts pushing out the 2021 season as well.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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Just have the cricket and the footy at the same time

Call it cricfooty or something

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The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

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wracking my brain trying to figure out how this would work.

EDIT: ACTUALLY

Just make the Aussie Rules version of hurling. Cricket bats and balls but you've got everything else based on how things work in football.

The Deadly Hume fucked around with this message at 07:51 on May 10, 2020

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