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Flocons de Jambon
Apr 11, 2015
You guys are right. There was no group loyal to their leader Mao that had to be deposed after his death.

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MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

This is really weird.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

Flocons de Jambon posted:

You guys are right. There was no group loyal to their leader Mao that had to be deposed after his death.

if they wanted to actually poo poo on mao himself they prolly wouldnt have a gigantic picture of him the size of a fuckin basketball court in tiananmen huh

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

https://twitter.com/badiucao/status/669398422143807488

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Flocons de Jambon posted:

You guys are right. There was no group loyal to their leader Mao that had to be deposed after his death.

We would all like to hear your opinions on the precise chain of events that led to Mao's son getting killed because he cooked eggs in a warzone

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Fojar38 posted:

We would all like to hear your opinions on the precise chain of events that led to Mao's son getting killed because he cooked eggs in a warzone

Which everyone there at the time all said he did.

Flocons de Jambon
Apr 11, 2015

McGavin posted:

Which everyone there at the time all said he did.

Why do you believe the CCP is incapable of telling a lie or engaging in propaganda when Deng is in charge?

Flocons de Jambon
Apr 11, 2015
I never heard the egg story until late last night and it's so obviously propaganda that still, the next day, I'm amazed anyone takes it seriously for a second.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Flocons de Jambon posted:

Why do you believe the CCP is incapable of telling a lie or engaging in propaganda when Deng is in charge?

Why are you so invested in salvaging the reputation of noted failson Mao Anying?

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
you can learn about mao's parenting and grandparenting w/ more evidence with the thread favorite mao xinyu

MyronMulch
Nov 12, 2006

glutinously

Mirrors
Oct 25, 2007

Flocons de Jambon posted:

I never heard the egg story until late last night and it's so obviously propaganda that still, the next day, I'm amazed anyone takes it seriously for a second.

Idk dude it sounds completely believable to me "failson born to power can't take good advice from others, and suffers the consequences because daddy isn't immediately there to bail him out" is the most realistic thing I've ever heard. Add in the Americans just punitively bombing any and all signs of life in the process of war crimeing their way up the peninsula and its extremely real feeling.

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


Look who here hasn't had an unofficial online holiday created in their home country to celebrate them exploding?

Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010

Flocons de Jambon posted:

I never heard the egg story until late last night and it's so obviously propaganda that still, the next day, I'm amazed anyone takes it seriously for a second.

My friend, have you heard of the obscure western propaganda site known as "wikipedia"?

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

wikipedia is an NED-funded psyop

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Realtalk "dont cook with fire because it makes your position obvious" isnt the sort of thing an average conscript would consider, especially conscripts largely made up of peasants with little training.

It is extremely believable that someone with poor training and little battlefield experience would make thus mistake and it probably happens a lot. The fact that Maos son got killed doing it is just funny because of how ignominious it is

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Theres not Anying you can do to save him, weird guy. Begone from this thread!!! Your cancerous aura brings only disharmony and gout

Flocons de Jambon
Apr 11, 2015

McGavin posted:

Why are you so invested in salvaging the reputation of noted failson Mao Anying?

I just think its funny. There's two stories.

1) he died like a normal soldier

2) the air raid sirens are blaring, the brave general is warning him "PUT OUT THE FIRE", and there in the middle of this story is the son of a former deadly rival of Deng, who just happens to be party leader when this official account is published, and he's *gluttonously cooking up special, privileged food his brothers in arms can't eat, and he is immediately served his just desserts while getting his comrades killed. So cinematic!

But 1 is the obvious propaganda and 2 is REALITY ITSELF.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

I see the Egg Council guys got to you too, huh?

Oriental Hugs
Jun 15, 2001

Nothin' about hugs, though
It is funny.

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


Smashed Mao eat the eggs

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Flocons de Jambon posted:

I just think its funny. There's two stories.

1) he died like a normal soldier

2) the air raid sirens are blaring, the brave general is warning him "PUT OUT THE FIRE", and there in the middle of this story is the son of a former deadly rival of Deng, who just happens to be party leader when this official account is published, and he's *gluttonously cooking up special, privileged food his brothers in arms can't eat, and he is immediately served his just desserts while getting his comrades killed. So cinematic!

But 1 is the obvious propaganda and 2 is REALITY ITSELF.

I know that you think that you're dropping some important lessons in critical thinking on a thread full of gullible rubes but the fact is that nobody really cares how factual it is. mao's son got killed because he ate eggs, much like how that guy at the capitol tazed his balls to death

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Fojar38 posted:

I know that you think that you're dropping some important lessons in critical thinking on a thread full of gullible rubes but the fact is that nobody really cares how factual it is. mao's son got killed because he ate eggs, much like how that guy at the capitol tazed his balls to death

:hmmyes:

Flocons de Jambon
Apr 11, 2015
Someone cared so much about how factual it is that they decided to hold it up as an example of how they can tell propaganda from reality.

If you just want to enjoy a funny story, I'll say no more.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

that pilots name? nelson mandela

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Flocons de Jambon posted:

I'll say no more.

Thats really all we want

winnydpu
May 3, 2007
Sugartime Jones

Flocons de Jambon posted:

I just think its funny. There's two stories.

1) he died like a normal soldier

2) the air raid sirens are blaring, the brave general is warning him "PUT OUT THE FIRE", and there in the middle of this story is the son of a former deadly rival of Deng, who just happens to be party leader when this official account is published, and he's *gluttonously cooking up special, privileged food his brothers in arms can't eat, and he is immediately served his just desserts while getting his comrades killed. So cinematic!

But 1 is the obvious propaganda and 2 is REALITY ITSELF.

From the memoirs and histories I've read, getting bombed while cooking breakfast IS "died like a normal soldier". The "humor" of the situation is the fundamental banality of the death.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Flocons de Jambon posted:

Someone cared so much about how factual it is that they decided to hold it up as an example of how they can tell propaganda from reality.

If you just want to enjoy a funny story, I'll say no more.

what the black gently caress is this

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Coolguye posted:

what the black gently caress is this

A tankie, stanning for Mao Anying.

OhsH
Jan 12, 2008
Who?

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012


Mao's failson, known for getting bombed to death while cooking eggs.

Mirrors
Oct 25, 2007

An idiot who built a smoke signal screaming "bomb here" to the notoriously restrained and concerned for civilian collateral damage American air force during the korean war.

OhsH
Jan 12, 2008
seems like a real winner

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Like, all the contemporary accounts agree that he was killed while cooking, they only disagree on whether he was cooking eggs or not.

quote:

Though the egg fried rice story is well known in China, it is not embraced by everyone. Cheng Pu, the lone survivor from the fateful breakfast maintained in an interview that this detail is false and that there would not have been any eggs available on the battlefront. Another Chinese writer, Cheng Xi, held forth on CCTV that Mao Anying was actually baking an apple peel. Still another historian, Yuan Jiang, claims Anying was actually warming up frozen bread and porridge.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001

Flocons de Jambon posted:

I just think its funny. There's two stories.

1) he died like a normal soldier
No because this isn't documented anywhere but your garbage posts

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
If you want some idea of how indiscriminate bored US fighter bombers can be when they have total air superiority, watch this.

https://youtu.be/Y_dYBOgLbHc

It's P-47s strafing anything that moves, or doesn't. Tanks, troops, trains, trucks, cars, horses, random people, airfields, barracks, sheds, barns, houses, bushes, etc.

Even though it's 22 minutes long, there's tons of footage not included of fighters strafing people (POWs) going to the fields, civilians going to church, and anyone who happened to be out in the open. Just like in Korea, US airmen were told that there would be no repercussions for killing civilians, only Allied soldiers. They were told to destroy/kill anything or anyone who might help the enemy war effort. There were tons of incidents where families were killed in their homes and random kids playing in groups, but that wasn't really a concern because war materials were also being destroyed.

In Korea's case they also intentionally targeted anything that would aid food production (bombing fields, irrigation ditches, and dykes).

It wasn't until the bombing campaign in Vietnam came into people's homes via TV that the civilian population of the US started to push back against the practice.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
This argument is getting eggstremely boring.

Teketeketeketeke
Mar 11, 2007


I would blow Dane Cook posted:

This argument is getting eggstremely boring.

No yolk.

Stink Billyums
Jul 7, 2006

MAGNUM

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

This argument is getting eggstremely boring.

Read this in Vincent Price's voice

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SerCypher
May 10, 2006

Gay baby jail...? What the hell?

I really don't like the sound of that...
Fun Shoe

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

This argument is getting eggstremely boring.

Imagine 4 eggs on the edge of an American airstrike.

Mao's son died the same way.

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