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Roth
Jul 9, 2016


Despite everything, I still like a lot of things about Mass Effect

The Geth are a really cool take on battle droids

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Ezis
Oct 9, 2001




I thought Solo felt more like a Mass Effect movie than a Star Wars movie.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

In the cheery brightness of the 41st millennium there is only CHRISTMAS SPIRIT!


Being a gravity wizard rules

Galewolf
Jan 9, 2007






Who What Now posted:

Being a gravity wizard rules

Biotics were so overpowered in ME 1 to the degree of being able to lift Geth Collosi and shoot them to death with souped up explosive ammo shotguns.

ME 2 must be the best goddamn game I have ever played along with FN:NV.

ME 3 was okay, the Citadel DLC is still kinda dumb that you throw parties when the universe literally burns but the gunplay and powers were better.

Never played Andromeda, will probably try the new ME despite how bad it will be.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Oh is there going to be another one? I enjoyed the trilogy a lot, keep meaning to give it a replay, I also never bothered with Andromeda tho

Galewolf
Jan 9, 2007






2house2fly posted:

Oh is there going to be another one?

Probably:

https://www.pcgamer.com/a-new-mass-effect-is-rumored-to-be-in-very-early-development/

Galewolf
Jan 9, 2007






The final mission after you return to Citadel in ME
is pure adrenaline and rules so hard.

Chuck Buried Treasure
Dec 27, 2010



I never got the hate for Andromeda

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS



I liked the first one but couldn't get into the cover shooter style of the second.

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom

College Slice

The combat in Andromeda was top notch, but the character animations, characterisation and plot fell flat in a way that prevented a lot of people from really getting invested in the new characters the way they did Shep, Garrus, Wrex and Liara. The writing team wasn't as strong as the ME 1/2 team, and, and while it was at least as good as ME3, that was the weakest of the series. They really needed a stronger start.

The game mechanics were fine, but it just didn't draw you in the way the first two games did, and ME3 benefitted significantly from the first and second game's work in establishing the main cast. Andromeda didn't have that advantage. It didn't have much replay value, and it also really didn't help that bioware wouldn't even stand by their product and cancelled planned DLC like a month in.

Chuck Buried Treasure
Dec 27, 2010



Don Dongington posted:

The combat in Andromeda was top notch, but the character animations, characterisation and plot fell flat in a way that prevented a lot of people from really getting invested in the new characters the way they did Shep, Garrus, Wrex and Liara. The writing team wasn't as strong as the ME 1/2 team, and, and while it was at least as good as ME3, that was the weakest of the series. They really needed a stronger start.

The game mechanics were fine, but it just didn't draw you in the way the first two games did, and ME3 benefitted significantly from the first and second game's work in establishing the main cast. Andromeda didn't have that advantage. It didn't have much replay value, and it also really didn't help that bioware wouldn't even stand by their product and cancelled planned DLC like a month in.

Yeah thatís fair. The combat was the best in the series, I think I cut the writing a lot of slack because thinking back on Mass Effect 1 I donít think I really cared for the characters all that much back then except Tali, all the work of making them memorable and likable felt like it was done in ME2. While the characters in Andromeda didnít impress me too much I felt like it was at least on the level of ME1 and thought they were a solid base to build on in the next game.

The story also could have been more tightly plotted but I liked the relatively small scope of it, trying to protect this small colonization effort was a lot more engaging to me than Galactic Space Opera #877 so I think I was willing to overlook the minute-by-minute faults. Either way I hope this rumored new ME game builds on Andromeda instead of scrapping it

elf help book
Aug 5, 2004

It's not a dream, or a lie.
I know my sister is alive out there.


Galewolf posted:

ME 2 must be the best goddamn game I have ever played along with FN:NV.

Please try Super Mario Bros. 3

OSU_Matthew
Aug 23, 2010

IT ME




Toilet Rascal

Chuck Buried Treasure posted:

I never got the hate for Andromeda

Itís so bad... I so desperately wanted to like it, even after hearing all the hate, but I couldnít finish it.

Rockstar Massacre
Mar 2, 2009

i only have a crazy life
because i make risky decisions
from a position of
unreasonable self-confidence


ME1 was great, the rest of the series was a blight and literally a disservice to both the medium and the genre.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

In the cheery brightness of the 41st millennium there is only CHRISTMAS SPIRIT!


Utgardaloki posted:

ME1 was great, the rest of the series was a blight and literally a disservice to both the medium and the genre.

I'm sorry, but if playing as a vanguard and using wormholes I create with my mind to punch people in the dick is wrong, then I don't want to be right!

dudeness
Mar 5, 2010

Cat Army


Fallen Rib

I liked the multiplayer in 3 enough that I pre orderd Dragon Age Inquisition because the multiplayer looked similar.

It was a large mistake.


But this isn't a forum for games this is a forum for sci-fi, so I'm gonna talk about the sci-fi. The sci fi was okay but honestly now that I'm thinking back none of it really stands out as amazing.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016


Utgardaloki posted:

ME1 was great, the rest of the series was a blight and literally a disservice to both the medium and the genre.

A blight you say?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8wUSk3aqgI

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012
Hello I am a person doing a thing via buttons. It's amazing what electronic singnals traveling through space can accomplish.

Makes ya think.

Purple m&ms are the best.

Utgardaloki posted:

ME1 was great, the rest of the series was a blight and literally a disservice to both the medium and the genre.

mass effect is a dogshit take on the genre and me1 is part of an insanely bad sub-medium, hth

sticksy
May 26, 2004
keeping austin weird





Nap Ghost

ungulateman posted:

mass effect is a dogshit take on the genre and me1 is part of an insanely bad sub-medium, hth

Cool, great post in the Mass Effect thread, hth.

ungulateman
Apr 18, 2012
Hello I am a person doing a thing via buttons. It's amazing what electronic singnals traveling through space can accomplish.

Makes ya think.

Purple m&ms are the best.

mass effect 2 correctly realises it's not a space opera and takes its grim, miserable setting and turns it into a Die Hard video game, with gameplay that complements that. mass effect 3 then proceeds to flail around in circles for 30 hours trying to make up its mind between the two and then trips over itself at the end for spectacular comedic effect

from what i've seen of andromeda it's a way better take on the genre but is not particularly good as a game, but also it having the mass effect brand attached to it did nothing positive or useful for it in either case

Roth
Jul 9, 2016


I never played Andromeda, but I recall hearing about how the Citadel races set up a museum that teaches a very white washed version of their history to the Andromeda races, and that sounded like a really cool idea.

Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 4134 days!


Mass Effect was basically the Star Wars of video games, it took a bunch of disparate stuff that came before it (in this case shooters and roleplaying games) and synthesized them into something that could achieve something new while paying homage to its influences at a time when technology reached the point that it could set the standard for blockbusters that would follow.

Also like Star Wars the second one was objectively the best.

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010



Soiled Meat

I have never played a ME game and it's probably the biggest gap in my "gaming knowledge" of the last decade. Is the whole trilogy available on PC through Origin or something?

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

What's Die Hard about Mass Effect 2

Roth
Jul 9, 2016


2house2fly posted:

What's Die Hard about Mass Effect 2

There's a mission where you fight your way through a corporate skyscraper.

Argus Zant
Nov 18, 2012

Wer ist bereit zu tanzen?


C-Euro posted:

I have never played a ME game and it's probably the biggest gap in my "gaming knowledge" of the last decade. Is the whole trilogy available on PC through Origin or something?

the whole trilogy is on Origin, yes

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008






rear end effect: a pornographical parody

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

~this is me posting irl~


Squizzle posted:

rear end effect: a pornographical parody

i'll start the wiki work the camera

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012





Tonight at 8: Xbox, or sexbox? We look at Mass Effect, the hot new video game that some parents say is a little too hot to be on the store shelves.

RBA Starblade
Apr 27, 2008

Going Home.



Games Idiot Court Jester


Galewolf posted:

The final mission after you return to Citadel in ME
is pure adrenaline and rules so hard.

I got a mod that made my shotgun have almost infinite range and knockback and pretty much infinite cooldown so it turned that entire last level into Doom

It owned

zoux
Apr 28, 2006



I remember everyone being mad at the end and not understanding what the problem was, but I only played through 2.

RBA Starblade
Apr 27, 2008

Going Home.



Games Idiot Court Jester


zoux posted:

I remember everyone being mad at the end and not understanding what the problem was, but I only played through 2.

The Ends Are Bad

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!


ME3 presaged the sequel trilogy. Couple of neat set pieces, wraps up one or two story arcs nicely, but it ends up being an incoherent mess because no one had any real clue what they were doing or what the story was ultimately going to be about

zoux
Apr 28, 2006



RBA Starblade posted:

The Ends Are Bad

I almost always hate story in games because if I wanted story I"d Read A God Damned Book

Lt. Danger
Dec 22, 2006

jolly good chaps we sure showed the hun



the ends are fine. the biggest problem is, like the sequel trilogy, EA/Disney forcing releases of undercooked first draft material to fit a schedule

the second biggest problem is Bioware's cringing-dog approach to audience responses and feedback leading to dishonest and schizophrenic storytelling. hmm, also familiar...

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

I kind of like a lot of the extended cut but the revised Destroy ending being like "this is all basically fine" was a weak move

Chuck Buried Treasure
Dec 27, 2010



Zoran posted:

ME3 presaged the sequel trilogy. Couple of neat set pieces, wraps up one or two story arcs nicely, but it ends up being an incoherent mess because no one had any real clue what they were doing or what the story was ultimately going to be about

Didnít they rewrite the whole ending because the script leaked? iirc the original actually involved the dark matter/dying suns thing that got brought up a few times in ME2

Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 4134 days!


zoux posted:

I remember everyone being mad at the end and not understanding what the problem was, but I only played through 2.

Expectation is the biggest enemy of any nerd-focused media because when your audience is people who build their personality around media nothing you put out can fill the yawning chasm in their soul that is chasing the dragon of being 12 playing games without a care in the world. It's why the only games that really truly hit hard are ones that sneak in under gamers' defenses like Portal or Undertale, while anything that has half a decade of build up and will never live up to it.

RBA Starblade
Apr 27, 2008

Going Home.



Games Idiot Court Jester


Sleeveless posted:

Expectation is the biggest enemy of any nerd-focused media because when your audience is people who build their personality around media nothing you put out can fill the yawning chasm in their soul that is chasing the dragon of being 12 playing games without a care in the world. It's why the only games that really truly hit hard are ones that sneak in under gamers' defenses like Portal or Undertale, while anything that has half a decade of build up and will never live up to it.

Undertale didn't hit that hard

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sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

If you see me posting tell me to log off and get back to work on my Teledji fanfiction!!!

#1 Teledji Adeledji fan - Monetarists Did Nothing Wrong


The series went to complete and utter poo poo with the Lair of the Shadow Broker DLC. Idiotic, self-referential writing focused on solving mysteries that didn't need answering, and waves of enemies dropping in on your head in lieu of actual set piece design. Everything before it is great, everything after just garbage that I'm still mad about nearly 8 years later.

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