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Jul 19, 2009
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star trek tumblr is completely different than star trek elsewhere.

a lot of you will go "it's all slash" but amazingly yeah of course that's there, but the bread and butter of star trek tumblr is observations framed as shitposts. it is very odd and huge fun.






(posted just as a screencap)







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(casy biggs, apparently there's a cadre of women who always hang out with him on every star trek cruise)

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Who What Now posted:

Janeway owns, please post more Janeway tumbles

I will see what I can find. God bless

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Gnome de plume posted:

The only safe way to interact with tumblr is through collected screenshots



It's worth finding the post that has some additional information, it turns out the person who constructed those went on to work on the costumes on the PBS show Barney

They also threw candy jizz into the crowd, But if I recall, only at the second appearance which was a tribute to the original appearance by fans of the first penis dance

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Jul 19, 2009
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reignofevil posted:

Ideas for content: What is something you've always wanted to know about Star Trek Tumblr. If like me you're just learning that it exists you can come up with something you just now want to know.

For example, how large is star trek tumblr? Are these people going to eventually fandom their way into some kind of spinoff show or congressional lobby?

For sure, I will be your ambassador.

One of the odd qualities of Tumblr is that you are expected, even encouraged, to have separate side blogs for different interests. So for example, in the above post that discusses the Worf lunchbox, there is a "ds9shameblog". That is specifically a side blog of a very talented and respectable artist who works in the industry.

However, some people post most if not all of their content on their main blog, especially if the arent into any specific thing enough for fandom-specific side blogs. Usually everyone has a main blog that's sort of a grab bag and includes personal stuff.

I say that because that means that there's kind of two clumps, the people who care about it enough to have Star Trek specific side blogs, and people who just repost Star Trek things because they like them enough for them to show up periodically on their main blog.

I would say the number of people who have the specific side blogs is fairly small, but the number of people who like it casually enough to repost something particularly funny is extremely high. So things that are extremely niche for Star Trek can get about 600 or 700 posts, but something that's more general interest Star Trek might get 30-60,000. Posts also circulate indefinitely and it's not obvious how old any specific post is.

It is impossible to find anything specific, the hashtags barely work, and really most people are only able to organize where any particular thing is by re-blogging it to an empty side blog, using their own specific tagging system, or literally just making a post that says, hey, does anybody have a link to (whatever)? It is honestly way less functional of a website than something awful itself.

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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

I don't browse Tumblr (because I'm a brainplaqued old who doesn't understand how Tumblr works) but in lieu of making contributions just wanted to say I am appreciating the hell out of this thread

:tipshat:

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Jul 19, 2009
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So, a word from your tumble liaison officer:

- You can "like" a post or "reblog" a post
- You can add hashtags to your post to make them findable on your blog or findable in a broken general search (which among other things only searches your first 5 hashtags)
- Ostensibly, when you reblog, and wish to add a comment, you'd add your comment at the bottom. It's designed to do this.
- This often made posts and comment chains too long, so unless your comment is really good, it's culturally expected that your comments are in the hashtags
- You can't see the hashtags someone adds to your reblogged post unless you use a third-party hashtag viewer, so you can't easily see other people's comments to your posts on default tumblr.
*There's a more different comments feature but nobody uses it because then usually you can see comments but it's a hassle for other people.
- When you see a "like" or receive a message, it's from that person's main blog. You can change which blog is designated as your main blog as often as you want. It mostly only matters to the extent that people can recognize you by your likes versus what you might be reblogging on a side blog, or posting on a side blog.
- If a hashtag post is funny or you want to reply to a hashtag you've seen, the cultural expectation is you will "#quote the hashtag #verbatim with the hashtag #intact" OR you will take a SCREENSHOT of the hashtags and insert that into your reblog as an image and then post your comment in text under that

So, if you see:



then here's what's actually going on:

- Aphidmaster posted a picture of an aphid with a caption under it. That's the limit of what aphidmaster has done here.
- Some person whose name will not appear reblogged aphidmaster's aphid picture and added in their hashtags "#thats a #good aphid"
- And fronkle reblogged the third party (whose hashtags otherwise will NOT be viewable in the reblog), copy+pasted the hashtags from the third party into the text field, and replied to them in text.

You could find who this person #3 was by looking through the Notes on the post, and potentially fronkle may have reblogged directly from them in which case you'd see who they reblogged it from, BUT only if you are seeing fronkle's actual reblog. If a fourth party reblogs fronkle, then you will not see who fronkle reblogged the post from any longer. Furthermore, fronkle might have grabbed the hashtags from the hashtag viewer and reblogged aphidmaster directly if they so chose.

This is clearly insane, but it is necessary to understanding some tumblr chains.

Pick fucked around with this message at 07:47 on Feb 3, 2020

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One Star Trek Tumblr event every year is "threshold day" when you post about the episode "threshold"





Pick fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Feb 3, 2020

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they're also really good at finding ephemera:


lmao ben browder, ok

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Yeah so when people rag on SA, think of literal existing alternatives that are THIS broken

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The what-ifs are nuts. Andy Robinson initially auditioned to be freakin' Odo.

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Gnome de plume posted:

One good thing about rebloggin in Tumblr is usually you can usually still see the content even if the original post a has been wiped, which is more than you can say for ie Twitter

True, with upsides and downsides. Once something's on tumblr, consider it on Tumblr for good--including art. (That's why sometimes you see the hashtag #do not reblog.) From the consumer side it can be admittedly handy, though some artists wish they could remove everything more easily.


Anyway, another way tumblr fandom has changed from its primary originating populations is that for the most part it's extremely irreverent. it's like everyone got burned out on fandom wank so now it's more about Havin' a Good Time

including the art,

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Jul 19, 2009
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I will investigate more questions for you.

Perhaps the strangest one from an outside pov, is the absolutely rabid defense of TOS Kirk. You'd think "tumblr people" would be anti-Kirk but that is not so.








not liking kirk would probably be the most flatly anathema stance in star trek tumblr, next to saying that you don't like majel barrett.

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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

years ago i stumbled into someone's tumblr by way of having been linked to their hilarious picture summary of star trek 2009, and after seeing references to "t'hy'laa" was all "wait a minute i thought i was the only one who read that novelization of TMP, i bet this person's old" and they were like 19 at the time and i found that weirdly heart-warming and affirming


also the into darkness summary is hilarious too

TOS is still very popular among tumblr's 17-22 year olds. of course it's also popular among older folks but you'd expect that

they normally very much like the show but they REALLY love the movies. I think it's because a lot of them grew up enjoying The Voyage Home/seeing it often. TOS is kinda old testament and the TOS films are like the new testament. A lot more chit-chat about the new testament but the goddamn Rules come from the Old Testament

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Vavrek posted:

TOS Kirk and Majel Barrett are both pretty great, it's true.

Thank you for your tumblr liaison services. They are appreciated. Please continue.

Diane Duane, of the Romulan novels that FCA lent me that I stiiilll haven't read yettt (sssoooorrrrrryyyy :( ) has a tumblr. dduane.tumblr.com. See, there are old people on tumblr!

spockslash.tumblr.com was run by a 77-year-old woman who has since passed away. you can see her final word to the Star Trek spock slash community here:

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* who has shipped Spirk since that night in 1967 that Amok Time first aired
* and helped storm NBC to keep TOS on the air for a 3rd season
* and wrote fanfic way back in the day
* and was privileged to be around for the earliest days of fandom, when Leonard used to come to your house if that’s where the fan club was meeting and sit on the sofa with you in that Spock hair cut and eat cake



All of you who are writing TOS/AOS fan fiction and creating fan art now: remember, YOU are the ones shaping the traditions of fandom. You have inherited the kingdom. Bless you for keeping it vibrant, growing, alive. In fifty years, you will be the ones who are remembered for molding it and handing it down to the future. It probably doesn’t feel like now, but you are making history.

Your current addiction to TOS and the feels you get when you contemplate the love between Jim and Spock will be with you for life. It won’t always be in the forefront; you will sometimes go years, sometimes go a decade, without Star Trek being more than a passing thought. But then something will remind you and every consuming feeling you feel right now will come rushing back, every bit as powerful and deep and strong as it is today. All there, right where you left it.

The friendships you make in fandom will be with you for life. Like all friendships, they will wax and wane as the focus of your life shifts over time, but you will always be able to pick up the thread. You will — to give you a hypothetical example — be 77 years old and discover Tumblr and get a rush of Spirk feels after a decade of not giving TOS a thought, and contact your 83-year-old fangirl friend in the nursing home, to whom you haven’t spoken in several years. You will open the conversation with, “So, Jim and Spock love each other and that just makes me so happy.” And your friend in the nursing home will sigh and say, “Yes. They do love each other. It’s such a comfort.”

That look that Jim and Spock give each other, of absolute adoration and acceptance and love? That’s real. It’s rare, but it’s real. One of my greatest joys in life is to see my son and his husband give each other looks like that. Of course I don’t know you; I don’t know your strengths and struggles or your place on the spectrum of gender or anything about your sexuality or what you look like or what your life has taught you to believe about yourself, but I do know this: YOU DESERVE TO BE LOVED AND LOOKED AT THE WAY JIM AND SPOCK LOOK AT EACH OTHER. Please don’t accept less than that in your life.

The future of our planet does not seem very hopeful at the moment. But please remember that when Gene created Star Trek, the world was in turmoil and the future seemed very bleak. Star Trek is, was, always shall be about hope. Reach for it. When TOS first aired, we hoped to see some form of a Starfleet on the horizon in our lifetimes. That vision must be passed on to you. Do it. Make the world worthy of launching the human race out into space. CREATE STARFLEET.

You are all creative and funny and amazing. Far more amazing than you know. Be kind to yourselves. Live long and prosper, kids.

When she died there was an immediate movement to back up her tumblr so it could be memorialized and couldn't be lost, which I think is nice. very long time to be blogging about kirk and spock kissing but a lot of people do a lot of things

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Jul 19, 2009
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Mermaid Autopsy posted:

i could never figure out how Tumblr even has communities with such a byzantine comment system so thank you Pick for this window into how the other side (Star Trek fans) lives

It's honestly like another language and it's very hard to explain. If someone were to ask me, "How do you start participating in star trek tumblr?" I do not know if I could give you an answer. I guess you find people who blog about star trek good (somehow) and then also make things yourself and tag them and maybe something in the broken search tool will allow someone to see it. again, I really do not know. even then about 80% of my dash ends up being other stuff, including weird hot takes about various other things. one of the fun things about tumblr is what is sometimes referred to as the "distant shark fin", i.e. you get a whiff of some... thing that is happening elsewhere, something bad, but it's small and indistinct and soon gone, leaving you only with the knowledge that SOMEONE out there is shipping mitt romney and rand paul

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Vavrek posted:

It's not age that stops me, it's the structure of how tumblr organizes content and ... enables? encourages? community. Not that it does so, but how it does so. I grew up on then-old GeoCities sites and online fora then in the shadow of Something Awful, and came to appreciate blogs and blog-comment-conversations sometime after LiveJournal stopped being relevant in my social circle. Twitter and Reddit I can parse, kind of, though not well.

Tumblr is a loving enigma. It feels like if I understood it, I'd have to follow it obsessively to get value out of it.

Tumblr is interesting because it was explicitly designed to try to NOT facilitate communication. It was trying to AVOID people making communities. This was not accidental. But like Delenn says on Babylon 5, the amazing thing about humans is, no matter where they go, they build communities :3:

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Jul 19, 2009
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even if it means communicating via screenshotted hashtags :psyduck:

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ask more q's

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Who What Now posted:

Is there a Star Trek AU where Kirk and Picard have to be co-captains?

Haven't really seen this. Also, Picard's actually not that popular on Star Trek tumblr? And you never see screeds lauding him the way you do Kirk (see above).

I think part of that is that the TNG side of star trek tumblr, far more than the TOS side, seems very into the idea of being in Starfleet, working on the Enterprise-D, and having the characters around the ship be part of your life potentially even as your friends! That's the dominant fantasy, not the power fantasy of being captain. And certainly not with the intention of replacing anyone or putting them out of a job. So if Picard is Captain, and he acts like Picard, the Captain, he's not really probably going to be your friend? Because he's not like that with crew? So he's not as popular as, say, Troi, Geordi, or even Riker, where people who are in the mindset of working on the ship as crew/members of Starfleet can see themselves having more natural and friendly interactions with them.

here is star trek tumblr's preferred Captain Picard content:

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Jul 19, 2009
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W.T. Fits posted:

How does Star Trek tumblr feel about Reginald Barclay?

I'm on my phone so illl get back to the earlier comments because they take more time, but this ones pretty easy: they don't really care for him. They like that OBrien put a spider on him one time.

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Jul 19, 2009
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Extremely so. I was going to make a post about it.

It's assumed from the outside that this is because fans love gay stuff ~mysteriously~ and that's true in some fandoms that only seem to be about Fancy Boys, but I think STar Trek fandom specifically is very into character chemistry and find Q/picard just plain an engaging premise ("curmudgeon and the trickster space god who has taken a fancy to him"). It IS a pretty novel concept and has good potential to be compelling and funny.

Also it kind of has that arc with the awkward humanity trial first meeting and then it becomes friendlier and Picard helps him and Q learns to be a better person--classic

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