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The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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I haven't watched survivor in at least 6 or 7 seasons but I'm sorely tempted to come back for this one. Really pissed off they didn't bring Cochran back though.

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The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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JesusSinfulHands posted:

Both spoiler sources and Probst have said that they asked Cochran and he declined, probably because he figured he'd be an early boot

At least they asked I guess. Still disappointing but I half expected that would be the case. Hopefully he'll be on Rob has a podcast at least.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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Sandra seems legit pissed about it. She's still going on about it in media interviews she's given since the show started airing.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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I totally understand why Cochran didn’t want to come back but it’s still disappointing. His arc over his two seasons is the best thing that’s ever happened in survivor.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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Everyone heaps poo poo on Rob’s win because of a supposed conspiracy to stack the deck with idiots and sheep.

If he wins this season it will be indisputable. He really is that good at the psychological game.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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nerox posted:

I've watched a few Australian Survivor episodes this season, the challenges are so much better than American Survivor now, its just so drat hard to keep up with 90 minute episodes every night it seems.

When we decide we like a reality show; we really go all in.

Australian Masterchef was, in its early seasons the most watched show on television. It doesn’t any more due to budget cuts; but earlier seasons had 6 episodes a week, and some of those were 2 hour affairs. They rescheduled the main political debate for a federal election because they realised it would clash with the Masterchef finale.

Australian Biggest loser had an episode every week night. (The season with parents and their kids competing together was extra crass)

Australian Big Brother not only aired 6 nights a week; there was also a weekly late night adults only special that consisted entirely of uncensored clips of the contestants showering, and other sexual antics/conversation from the week that couldn’t be aired earlier.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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e.martin posted:

Any idea why Cochran isnt on this season? I would have thought he would have been a shoe-in. Former winner that is very popular. I wonder if he turned it down for some reason.

All we know is that he was approached but turned it down. He has gone on record in the past to say that he would never play again because he already had a perfect win and he wants to preserve that since he'd only do worse if he went back.

e.martin posted:

I assume they are doing the Redemption Island thing again because they have all of the great Survivor personalities and want to keep them hanging around as long as they can even after they are voted out. I get the idea for the ratings but have never liked the Redemption Island thing. I hope no one ever wins by coming back on the show.

Edge of extinction serves the same purpose as Redemption Island but it works much better in my opinion.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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Spatula City posted:

I have no idea how Fabio would have fared here, and I am kinda disappointed we missed that golden opportunity. imo production wants to pretend Nicaragua didn't happen. but also they wanted largely competent players and not people that bumbled their way to the end and won against assholes just by being likable. so I wasn't really surprised he wasn't cast.

I know they'll never, ever do this, but I would love to see a total shitshow season of Survivor featuring some of the floppiest, messiest, and weirdest players.
alternately, a returnee season consisting entirely of pre-merge boots. somehow trick Francesca into coming back, wahahahaha.

They should do a season consisting entirely of previous first Boots.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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I love Cochran to bits; but I respect his reasoning.

I do find myself wondering what he's doing these days though. His most recent writing credit on imdb is from 2016.

Khanstant posted:

Yeah, I'm curious how many are actually still millionaires, or ever got to be one. Gov't takes half, right? So they all win half a mil, but poo poo, a house in my dinky little town costs a quarter million. I know someone good at capitalism might be able to take that half a mil and turn it into more, but seems like most prize winners are not those sorts of people.

It's always struck me as mean the way that the US government taxes prize money from gameshows and lotteries and poo poo. It's not something that happens here in Australia.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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The Bloop posted:

I mean, it's income. It gets taxed. If the show wants to claim the winner will get to keep 1 mil after taxes or whatever, they could easily do so.

Are you really saying that some windfall income is not taxed in Australia? I'm shocked no one has exploited that to the nth degree yet. Gig economy! you volunteer to do this work and every week spin a wheel to find out what you've won! Minimum winnings = your salary, one tiny space has a $100 bonus. Guaranteed no taxes!

Prizes from games aren’t considered income in Australia. If you win the lotto, win a game show, win a contest, win big at the casino - not income, not taxed. (unless you do it for a living like a pro poker player, then it’s income). IIRC contestants on reality tv shows have to be paid for their time (I believe it’s gently caress all, minimum wage or some poo poo) and that would be taxed, but not the prize money.

Pretty sure we don’t tax inheritances either.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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Khanstant posted:

Maybe that's Why Survivor AUS are competing for like 300 bucks in Outback giftcards?


I can see why you see the taxes as mean, but the alternative seems like a pretty goofy loophole to pay income without taxes. I also see it as a distant cousin of the "wealth" problem, i.e. Rich people don't want to pay their fair dues, and some poor people also somehow don't want the rich to pay their fair dues, just in case they themselves somehow ever become rich. There's a temptation to be all "aww dang but they won, let em keep it" but poo poo, 500,000 is a life-changing wad of money to get. I could pay off my student loans, a feat I will literally never be able to do in my natural lifespan otherwise. That alone would nearly double the amount of income I have to use each month. And if 500k wasn't a life-changing amount of money for a winner.... well gently caress em anyway, they already have too much money.

I mean, I’m sure we have measures in place to prevent abuse. The US tax system is considerably less fair than ours if you’re looking at things from the perspective of a lower income earner (we don’t pay any tax at all for the first 18k we earn each year, high income earners pay more tax (45%) at a lower income threshold (180k). We also have a free web app/phone app run by the government that lets most average people do their tax return in about 10 mins rather than have to pay for software or pay an accountant.

A woman last June won the largest ever lotto jackpot here - she won $107 million.

Pinterest Mom posted:

He's writing for Star Trek: Lower Decks rn along with David.



Oh wow. That's awesome. Hopefully the show will end up better than loving discovery.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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If that’s the case then people might not have even known they were signing up for a special all winners season at first. People like Cochran for instance may have said yes if they’d known that.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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SweetJahasus posted:

Jeez man what's with the Cochran fixation? He was a fine winner but drat he's not a hill worth dying on.

He had a really compelling storyline over his two seasons, and I'm sure many of us identified pretty strongly with him even before we found out he was a Goon.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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Somebody remind me again how he managed to win a season?

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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I remember him doing astounding work building the shelter in all stars, and I'm pretty sure he had tools then as well; from a reward challenge.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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Zesty posted:

Is this a loving coffin? Foot and a half of clearance inside?


It’s cozy; with a wonderful location. A renovator’s dream.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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It just occurred to me they likely won't be able to do a live reunion show for this season.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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After Rob/Sandra/Pavarti my next pick is Denise. And honestly even if what happened last ep wasn’t strictly the best move it reminded me why I like her and made me like her a whole lot more.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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This is the second week in a row someone’s overreached by trying to do Nth dimensional chess bullshit with the fire tokens and gotten voted out because of it.

I’m really starting to hate the sound of Adam’s voice. He really is a whiny little poo poo.


I can’t stand Wendall. He seems like a nasty piece of work - you can see his real self shine through in his interactions with Michelle.

I’m still hoping one of Rob/Pavarti/Tyson gets back in but barring that I’m cheering for Denise and Sophie.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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sportsgenius86 posted:

I can’t remember hating someone on this show as much as I hate Wendell right now.

The conversations with Michele reveal a lot about him, unfortunately. It’s kinda gross to watch.

Yeah this. In this season at least, there have been more detestable people than Wendell in other seasons.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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Pinterest Mom posted:

Extremely harsh, given that her father-in-law's son played on Survivor.

Who is her father in Law's son? So this guy's Son and Daughter in law both played survivor and he likes a random stranger the most? what a dick.

That aside, I'd be a tad put off if I were Parvati and a dude basically walked up to me and effectively said 'oh hey FYI I used to jack off to pictures of you when I was a kid'

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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He said she was his crush in high school. What did you imagine that meant? He was a teenager. Teenagers jack off to stuff.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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The editorial intention was clearly to dunk on Tyson, thus the juxtaposition of 'Rob is a portly fellow' with 'No big deal, I just zipped around and snapped up 3 tokens under everyone's noses.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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Any word yet on what they're going to do for the finale?

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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Yeah that was brutal. Normally in that challenge people slowly slide down the pole over the course of the challenge but here because of the rain you had people basically slipping from the top and falling a considerable distance.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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They should do a season of entirely batshit crazy/super annoying people.

Coach, Phillip, Abi Maria, The entire Hantz family, that crazy superfan lady who couldn't stop talking about how she saw monkeys loving, etc

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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They should reach out to get Jeff to compete on Australian Survivor. It’s the perfect solution to the age of problem of how to get Jeff to compete given that he needs to be the host.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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I thought the family season they did that one time was cool. Did they ever do that again?

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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It would obviously end up being Boston Rob.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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I wonder if Phillip ever gets pissed because Tony is a better spy than he is.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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They should do AUS vs US, but actually put Probst on the US team.

Or maybe they could do a crossover season that is aired in both countries and counts as a season of each show and has Probst and Jonathan as co-host's.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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The channel that airs Australian survivor was bought by CBS a year or two ago so I wouldn’t be surprised if Australian survivor finds its way to CBS all access in the US at some point. In the mean time I’m sure you could make it work with a VPN.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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TheCenturion posted:

gently caress, just give me a season of Survivor that's nothing but now-grown contestants from Kid Nation. The youngest of those kids is 21 now, the oldest 28ish.



That was a cool show, I'd watch the gently caress out of a Survivor: Kid Nation Alumni

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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Raxivace posted:

I want Coach to write an autobiography. I won't believe a loving word of it but I desperately want him to write it.

Boy do I have a treat for you.

https://www.amazon.com/Voyage-Beyond-Reason-Survival-Original/dp/1432712349

So, In 1996; then 24 year old Coach set out from Baja California on an insane solo sea kayak adventure along the coast of South America; battling hurricanes, wildlife, etc. He kept a journal during this time, but at some point along the way, after travelling about 6000 miles, he buried his journals on a sea cliff in Columbia. a couple of years later, they were discovered by an author, who set about novelising them (he was able to track down Coach by around 2003 I believe). The book was published shortly before Tocantins aired.

Now this here is another book on the same subject, but this time written by Coach himself, complete with photographs and stuff; published in 2011:

https://www.amazon.com/No-Turning-Back-American-Expedition-ebook/dp/B005JJW7S0

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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Obviously there’s no way to tell for sure but the author is a legit author, and the book was being written and researched well before Coach became a well known figure.

I’ve read it and it’s really good. My personal thinking is that it’s mostly true; but even if it was bullshit it’s still a good read.

The Lord Bude fucked around with this message at 05:52 on May 21, 2020

The Lord Bude
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clown shoes posted:

Once I finish Panama tomorrow, I'll have these 11 seasons left.

The Amazon
Vanuatu
Guatemala
Fiji
Gabon
Nicaragua
Redemption Island
South Pacific
One World
Worlds Apart
Edge of Extinction

You mentioned there might be stuff you missed from your list of watched seasons. Have you seen Caramoan? It's my favourite season; and South Pacific even though it's not the best season acts as a pretty good prologue to it, because of the several players from that season that returned in Caramoan.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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They should get Rob C out there again. Bonus points if they can team him up with Fishbach.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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Completely untrue! Cochran hasn't posted since right before he went on South Pacific - but his account isn't banned.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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clown shoes posted:

Is Michael Skupin the worst person to ever be on Survivor?

He’s certainly the only convicted pedophile and fraudster thus far.

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The Lord Bude
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Sand Monster posted:

Skupin made the F3 in his return season.

That definitely won't be happening again.

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