Spatula City posted:

I have no idea how Fabio would have fared here, and I am kinda disappointed we missed that golden opportunity. imo production wants to pretend Nicaragua didn't happen. but also they wanted largely competent players and not people that bumbled their way to the end and won against assholes just by being likable. so I wasn't really surprised he wasn't cast.

I know they'll never, ever do this, but I would love to see a total shitshow season of Survivor featuring some of the floppiest, messiest, and weirdest players.
alternately, a returnee season consisting entirely of pre-merge boots. somehow trick Francesca into coming back, wahahahaha.

SweetJahasus posted:

Jeez man what's with the Cochran fixation? He was a fine winner but drat he's not a hill worth dying on.

Anyway, Fabio won Nicaragua which was a season full of very toxic people, including 2 quitters and nearly a third quitter. The final 3 consisted of Fabio who was a likeable idiot and two unlikeable shits, one of which was Sash who is unpalatable to basically all survivor fans, and the other is a now famous country music star Chase Rice, who doesn't care about survivor and was only there for publicity, which fans hate.

I'd weirdly recommend watching Nicaragua if for nothing else than seeing how odd it was and how it really blunted the impact that s19 and s20 had. Survivor had a gently caress ton of momentum in the wake of Russell and then Nicaragua happened which started the "dark ages".

Khanstant posted:

RIP Rob. Machete sharpeners always go home.

Aerox posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTBdPP9kpss

Vernacular posted:

The only truly out-of-nowhere thing this episode was Sarah gunning for Kim. Everything else makes enough sense in context.

lukess1 posted:

For one: Denise did pretty much vote out Sandra by herself. Nick has played the game very well without getting enemies and Michelle ruled the pre-merge with Jeremy.

Silly Burrito posted:

I’m just ready for Boston Rob to come back and win the whole thing.

Binary Logic posted:

OFFICER LIGER posted:

I mean I'm fairly sure a large part of the reason the Edge was used this season was so more of the popular Survivor players would have more tv time/a chance to still win and the show retain ratings so viewers aren't tuning out when Boston Rob/Parvati/etc are voted out early

ApplesandOranges posted:

Honestly the reunions are pretty bad these days. The only thing worth checking in for after they announce the winner is to see who gets the Sia money now.

Philthy posted:

Tony didn't dominate anything. He ended up in a good alliance. That's it. He made one single move to vote someone out, and it wasn't even a good one. He simply did it because he fell into the usual "I heard my name come up from you, so now I must be bull-headed and vote you out." which almost lost his trust with Sarah. He wasn't voted against because he wasn't a threat to anyone. He was the jester, not the player. He made a single good call about Natalie possibly having an idol and it was the only time anything he brought up made any sense and was right about. He was blown off because, again, no one took him seriously of felt he was a legitimate player. 90% of Tony was his alliance.


That mental pressure is a distraction. It makes time go by faster. EoE had none of that, it was pure misery. And those challenges were hardcore compared to anything the other side had. I would still believe fully the real test of Survivor was surviving EoE. It seemed to me way worse off, and Natalie was there from it's beginning to its end.


Being on the inside is as much competitive and cooperative than EoE was. No one knew she had so many tokens, or all the other stuff she did. I think she worked with Parv on these, but everyone else didn't seem to know about it. Since she got voted out first. First votes are token votes that are generally completely random. It was no fault of her own. I would argue Tony never got to even play the game fully because he never made it to EoE. I am wondering if we even saw the same show or not. EoE was a huge deal.

Also, Natalie did have a nearly perfect game when she returned. She had enough tokens for immunity and got to draw out two MORE immunity tokens. She then went on to win ANOTHER immunity. She not only found cracks, she knocked the entire drat wall down when she returned. Her only mistake is that she maybe should have said the jury all thought Ben was the winner instead of Tony. But everyone knew Tony was paranoid, so he was easier to exploit.

Rob upset she didn't make fire against Tony is ridiculous. She won the immunity so that she didn't have to.

Token Female posted:

I think it has been to panama. Though I think the first episode of Pearl Islands is the best episode of the show.

It's basically a group of true wackos who hate each other with a seething passion but somehow win and stick together.

Highlighted by
-Bruce and Bobby take the last of the win and get drunk in the outhouse
-Shane shows Cirie his dick for medical advise
-Bruce gets med evacs with a naked shane and Courtney's unwanted singing
-Shane threatens to go to Courtney's lovely apartment and kill her after the game if she votes against him and Courtney gets angry because her apartment isnt lovely.