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Ad by Khad posted:One positive aspect of goats was that seeing the same 6 heroes all the time allowed the overwhelmingly newbie audience get used to the idea of how the positions on a team worked. When OWL started getting shown at every bar in town I would've had a lot more difficulty explaining the difference between main support and flex support if the hero picks were more varied. Yeah this was a big thing for me getting my girlfriend, family, etc into watching OWL with me. Was a very good starting point. Also whenever anyone talks about GOATS being bad they always point at the bottom of the barrel teams playing it (justice lul) and not the hype matches (shock, titans).
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2020 13:33 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 17:06 |
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deadwing posted:GOATS was loving excellent at the top level but watching the bottom half of the roster play it was literally painful This happens in every sport, does it now? I've watched some loving ABYSMAL hockey
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2020 18:25 |
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Ad by Khad posted:Some gentle reminders for season 3 Gentle reminder that Monte is a shithead who should gently caress off forever
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2020 02:23 |
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Fauxtool posted:Yeah thats an appropriate response for someone you probably dont know. Care to elaborate? He spent two years being a fuckwit, every time he was wrong he weaseled out of accepting that he was and now that he's left OWL he has even less reason to be a part of this thread, as he's irrelevant and trash
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2020 15:18 |
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Mei play is really poor rn, it seems E: Nevermind they snipin'
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2020 21:26 |
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Casters talking up Hotba when Anamo booped literally everyone out of the pub. Nice
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2020 21:42 |
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an actual frog posted:For real. The stream ended and YT just started auto-playing random, clickbaity OW vids so I shut it down, thinking the next games were in an hour Oh wait for real? I just assumed it was over and started doing other things, lmao
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2020 00:59 |
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I can't believe that people are claiming Mei and Reaper take more mechanical skill than the Goats heroes. Like goddamn maybe mei's right click but jesus i'm already so bored of "wall off tank, kill tank, fight over".
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2020 11:03 |
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I mean wasn't the majority of the fights with reaper mei just doing exactly what you said except this time they have a wall?
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2020 16:37 |
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I played every hero in goats up to 4.3 and scrimmed them all regularly for EU teams, so i'm probably biased as well because gently caress doing that in current meta, but I just cannot stand Mei, where every single fight is absolutely based around her and her abilities. Even Goats didn't focus on a single hero in fights the way the current meta seems to, so its boring as hell to me. "oh look glisters shot nosmite in the face 15 times again while he's walled off, yay"
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2020 17:05 |
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True, can't argue with that.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2020 18:06 |
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That's half my problem. Mei herself is basically a tank, so what you're seeing is "psuedo goats". Her being able to make herself invincible is loving stupid, her walls being able to take as much damage as they do is dumb and her being able to combine her freeze effects is also incredibly dumb. Nobody has ever said "oh boy, i can't wait to fight a mei" but i loving loved fighting genji's, cree's, reins, hogs, zarya's, etc because they all are actually fun to engage with.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2020 18:51 |
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Rand Brittain posted:Did it just go dark? Yeah, come hang out in legday's stream instead
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# ¿ Feb 16, 2020 22:04 |
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Ignis posted:Corey and Blase fighting hard for the dubious title of worst McCree in the league so far To be fair, the shots he missed he had a hammer taking up 90% of his screen
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# ¿ Feb 16, 2020 22:45 |
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vlad3217 posted:Yeah I was watching the VODs from yesterday this morning and was amazed at how much I ended up skipping through to get to actual gameplay Apparently its normal for American sports, which is INSANE to me. I'm not watching any more this year, I think. It's insanely frustrating to just get bombarded with ads constantly.
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2020 12:42 |
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silvergoose posted:Yeah uh have you ever watched baseball or gridiron football I'm gonna repeat the words "Non-American"
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2020 15:13 |
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I've watched some sports but typically I only watch the highlights of American football, or I used to play the Madden games, which you know, vastly less ad's between games.
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2020 18:56 |
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tetsuo posted:I don’t see these crunch time ads am I just weird what’s going on? Aren’t we all ad blocking? You can't block adblock an on air broadcast. They seem to have replaced the crunch times with the mtx poo poo though.
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2020 19:51 |
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I feel like stats at this point saying "best x" is kinda moot considering that a bunch of teams haven't played and a ton of teams haven't played good teams yet. I'm half convinced i'd look good against Houston, for example.
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# ¿ Feb 18, 2020 16:33 |
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Muma is only 300 above me so I'll give it a punt
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2020 02:10 |
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Manatee Cannon posted:idk man, outlaws are pretty good. I mean, have you seen this montage of that time they got thrown in a trash can by the mayhem? This hurts me and I'm not even an outlaws fan
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2020 09:52 |
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Oasx posted:It's not a question on whether they can afford to but whether it is worth the money, especially if these companies aren't seeing the returns they were expecting. The ones who were clever enough to get it written into their contract are. There's at least one team with a single player who gets to fly business class as per their contract and none of their teammates do.
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# ¿ Feb 21, 2020 15:09 |
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Watching Muma play makes me cry
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# ¿ Feb 23, 2020 01:21 |
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MOUFFIN NO
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# ¿ Feb 23, 2020 01:27 |
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Random bans as often as they want to have them are dogshit, i think. I hate the idea.
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2020 11:04 |
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Tommu posted:I have a contenders match in 2 weeks and i dont know the hero bans. Same with the OD guys who have matches what, this week and they find out the hero bans today? I don't understand how blizzard continually hears "hey, competitive is a loving joke, sort yourselves out" and then makes it worse, every goddamn time. Game was arguably at its peak when we were doing monthly money tourneys
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2020 13:15 |
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Nothingtoseehere posted:Is contenders/OD not running off the OWL bans? That seems much more sensible than the ladder bans, which no ones knows the critera for. I'm not that active competitively anymore (not even ringing, as of this season) and all I heard is that all the EU coaches I know are complaining because they find out what they can play roughly the same week they get banned, so currently I assume they don't. Which sucks. Its even worse for OWL teams. Sorry you're flying constantly, guess that thing you practiced last week can't be done anymore and also you don't get to practice anything new because you just spent half your time travelling and getting set up. Oh you're comfy on the new meta WHOA poo poo NOW ITS CHANGED HAHA ISN'T THIS GOOD.
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2020 15:11 |
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Maybe we at least see carpe tracer OR WE SEE OUR BOI CHIPSA GET OONLOOKI
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2020 16:29 |
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Also people were starting to move over to "anti goats" strats in the days before they straight up went "gently caress it" and chucked in role Q.
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2020 18:04 |
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Katreus posted:Imo they should have made gm and up hero bans to March with owl. Mate we can't even play on the same patch as OWL players
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2020 20:23 |
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tetsuo posted:For who? If you don't like dive and you don't like goats, your problem isn't that the meta is bad. The problem is that you don't like overwatch and should go watch siege. Literally blizzards solution is to ensure there is no longer metas, as people cannot stop whining.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2020 00:05 |
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Goats wasn't even played by over 97% of the playerbase, so i get that they wanted to kill it, but hero pools seems like the wrong way to do it.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2020 00:39 |
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Hahaha So not only are hero bans different from OWL to OD, but OD only finds out each thursday in the middle of normal scrim times when their matches are Saturdays and Sundays. Then you have the Tier 3 teams who aren't quite contenders but scrim with contenders teams, who can't really do that anymore because contenders teams are on different bans from the OD bans. What a clusterfuck
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2020 15:23 |
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I dunno how watching Mei press Q or wall off the tank line over and over again is fun. I'm really hype to see if maybe Rein not existing means Mei won't. Failing that i'll just play ranked because holy poo poo the ice devil is loving gone. Thank gently caress.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2020 17:36 |
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Good to know we're gonna be swapping between mei walling people off and mei being undivable because they're refusing to let the players do the picking like every other esport with bans.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2020 13:08 |
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As opposed to the current, solution, which is to have a solved meta where there is an obvious correct answer.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2020 18:12 |
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Because Winston is trash
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2020 23:41 |
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Raw aim, only the OW dps players i think will switch over well enough. Even then we're talking more the cree/widow players. But if you're dedicated enough to try and go pro in a game and good enough to consistently stay in t500, you'll see a ton of former OW players at very high ranks of whatever ranking system Valorant would have. It wasn't uncommon for support players to have a fairly nasty dps. Anyone remember Kariv going apeshit on widow? Or Neptuno solowiping a team as widow and then typing "next push please"? But yeah, OW and Valorant aren't comparable, so i guess we'll see. I think it'll be dominated by CSGO players who haven't quite made it pro in the first year, then we'll see who continues. Players who play in beta very much don't usually keep playing professionally a couple of years after as people surpass them. E: Also, in my personal experience, I hit t500 on all three overwatch roles (lol cree flashbangs, i owe you a lot) and against consistent t500 dps players, i'd get absolutely poo poo on, but i'd hold my own well enough that if I started calling, i'd be able to maintain mid gm-low t500 on that account. Even just through keeping them busy and just not feeding. That will also have value. Who knows, i'll install CS and immediately get placed in silver, lets go. dogstile fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Apr 7, 2020 |
# ¿ Apr 7, 2020 09:25 |
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Yeah Tommu isn't having a good month
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2020 12:58 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 17:06 |
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Tommu, dude, let me send you over £5 and buy you a couple drinks or something, you need it
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2020 13:17 |