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pretty unexpected that the gladiators are running jaru and lhcloudy over mirror and oge
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2020 23:19 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 15:01 |
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Hanzo and Pharah have both been played by Gladiators in this match (Pharah for a bit on Dorado, Hanzo on Hanamura), Zarya was played by NYXL on Control Centre, and Mercy was played a few times to go with Widow and Pharah I think
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2020 00:36 |
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There are two different streams, on both Overwatch League and PlayOverwatch channels, for some incomprehensible reason
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2020 01:10 |
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ameng playing winston???
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2020 11:10 |
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Herstory Begins Now posted:I have no proof, but I very strongly suspect that the OWL viewer base was almost 100% people who have played the game, which is notably not the case for many (most?) sports and esports. Isn't this the case with MOBAs too though? They're even more inscrutable for a casual viewer than Overwatch I'd think.
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2020 06:50 |
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surf rock posted:Dude gently caress yes, loved watching the Spark game just now. I've given up hope that we'll be competitive with Shanghai without some kind of roster move (Haksal, please? You're already in Korea, come play with us!) and NYXL is probably also out of reach, but we could be third in the conference and top-six overall, which would be a better finish than expected. A large part of this is how unbalanced the scheduling has been, like I don't understand why Paris have played Philly three times but haven't played Boston once yet despite both being based on the east coast. I understand there's been a lot of limitations due to covid etc. but it's been weird even considering that.
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# ¿ May 4, 2020 09:20 |
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The clause in Fissure's contract that said he would have to pay penalties if he left the team of his own choosing partway through the season was involved, that he chose to put in his contract, probably had something to do with that. The players have also said none of them are getting paid for the rest of the season, not just Fissure.
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# ¿ May 7, 2020 02:23 |
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Ignis posted:https://www.sportsnet.ca/more/vancouver-titans-collapsed-rebuilding-scratch/ The story from Kotaku/others was that the players were upset that the team didn't help them at all in finding accommodation in South Korea after the management had them go back there, and then it sounds like they had a bunch of technical issues there, and the management was even worse at communicating now that they were on the other side of the world than before.
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# ¿ May 9, 2020 02:25 |
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as a casual who is fairly terrible at the game and enjoys watching owl, hero pools has made owl a little more interesting to watch because of all the variety week-to-week (especially when a lot of teams were stuck playing the same teams over and over again a ridiculous amount) but its clearly extremely detrimental to the players/coaches, overall quality of play, and competitive integrity. a much better solution would have just been the more aggressive balancing the devs have repeatedly promised that still hasn't really eventuated.
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# ¿ May 13, 2020 04:12 |
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Ashe also got buffed recently
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# ¿ May 25, 2020 12:22 |
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/gxjzgf/huge_leaks_of_dcinisde_dynasty_gallery_its_mostly/ft20tnu/ a seemingly credible leak? washington making big moves, but it doesn't really make sense for them to get qoq when they already have jjanu? i guess sms to florida makes sense since they don't have any dps depth at the moment with saya unwell
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2020 10:27 |
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london vs shanghai on anubis has had nothing but extremely strange comps
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2020 10:04 |
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Manatee Cannon posted:considering seoul this year has the exact same issues as london did the previous 2 years, I think the problem is in fact individual players. 3 players in particular seoul's head coach is changgoon who was head coach of london for most of season 1 after bishop left. while the s1 championship was impressive of course, he's clearly part of the problem since seoul have never really looked like they've known how to play any comp well except double shield (and they couldn't even do it well this week strangely), which points to their coaches having a pretty poor understanding of things. i was surprised seoul didn't pick up jjanu since off-tank is clearly one of the positions they're struggling the most with, with both marve1 and michelle being completely inflexible. maybe they tried though idk
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2020 07:57 |
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looks like Good Seoul has showed up today and Profit is suddenly looking good at Echo?
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2020 11:09 |
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what is going on with valiant benching dreamer & lastro? guess they must be sick?
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2020 00:40 |
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nice to see Diem finally looking back in form after pretty bad performances every previous time he's played this season
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2020 09:42 |
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nyxl have been weirdly middling this year but they were still solidly second tier last year (along with spark and gladiators i guess?), even with the easier division making them look a lot better than they actually were early on. its just that pretty much every team except shock and titans were extremely inconsistent last year so nyxl being a lot less inconsistent than most counts for a lot.
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2020 13:16 |
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all of dallas except note were under contract at the end of last season so it seems like the original envyus roster were signed for 3 years
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2020 12:35 |
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chengdu not running genji is kinda baffling when he's viable and jinmu is so good at him
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2020 12:39 |
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it was "which echo has the better echo?"
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2020 10:35 |
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the only openly lgbt (former) owl player no one's mentioned yet is effect but he wasn't exactly any sort of role model
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2020 13:26 |
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surprised that guangzhou aren't interested in re-signing chara at all because main support is maybe the most in-demand position and he performed well this year. neptuno on the other hand was on the bench all season due to visa issues so that's less of a surprise ating being gone from chengdu isn't surprising considering he couldn't manage to do better than ameng, even on winston, and they even ended up running elsa instead of him by the end of the season
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2020 04:24 |
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nero said at the time that he was told krystal was signed as backup in case they weren't able to re-sign some of their players at the end of the year. their assistant gm also said that krystal would have to 'prove himself' in contenders so either guangzhou have managed to mostly re-sign their dps line or they were disappointed in krystal's performance in contenders as guangzhou's academy team hasn't been doing very well https://twitter.com/MekOppa/status/1317022300462444544 lol are the outlaws keeping anyone at all? lih fucked around with this message at 10:17 on Oct 16, 2020 |
# ¿ Oct 16, 2020 07:24 |
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a little surprised Fuel aren't keeping Crimzo who was one of the few bright spots for them but it sounded like they had real internal conflicts so i guess they just want rebuild around Doha
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# ¿ Oct 17, 2020 01:00 |
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i hope valiant re-sign mcgravy after releasing him for the second year in a row
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# ¿ Oct 17, 2020 03:40 |
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Rand Brittain posted:I'm not sure if the numbers support this but it feels like most of the teams just stopped existing. Justice have declined the team options for Stich, Jjanu, Aimgod and Ark but their GM said they're still in talks with at least some of those players so we'll see...? but if they don't end up keeping those players then i'd count them under "dropped most of their roster" too. the bizarre thing is that Roar is still under contract with them so they must have signed him to two years after Gladiators didn't pick up his option which, lol. Guangzhou only have Eileen, Cr0ng and maybe Rio signed for next year but they haven't said "goodbye" to Happy, Nero or Shu yet so they're probably in negotiations with at least some of them a little surprised Toronto didn't at least keep Kariv, he would have at least been worth rebuilding around along with Logix but I guess they probably don't want to pay as much now in the current climate?
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# ¿ Oct 22, 2020 01:15 |
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i think the stat is over 50% of the league are now free agents lol
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# ¿ Oct 22, 2020 01:32 |
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shy to hangzhou is the least surprising signing there will be this entire offseason considering the word was he wasn't active on their contenders team recently in order to scrim full-time with the main hangzhou roster i'm still just totally baffled by boston lmao, i'd thought that maybe getting an actual possibly good head coach this time meant they might revamp their roster but no lol seoul aren't picking up their options for illicit and michelle: https://twitter.com/OW_ILLICIT/status/1319145540131565568 https://twitter.com/M1chelle_ow/status/1319141136158445568 dogman talked about a bunch of stuff on stream with some interesting details: -erster didn't play much this year because atlanta were all confined to their apartments to avoid covid and never even used their training facility and erster had the most trouble adjusting to this and didn't really have much connection to the rest of the team. -dogman himself probably isn't going to re-sign with the reign (but hasn't ruled it out) and "might be doing something else he hasn't announced yet" so i'd imagine that might be the owl desk, though he did say he's still trying out with other teams too. -rumours of paris making big & unexpected moves to sell off some of their star players -rumours of dallas going full korean lih fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Oct 22, 2020 |
# ¿ Oct 22, 2020 06:03 |
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Manatee Cannon posted:I've heard that fielder and nosmite have lft posts so paris might be going back to a european roster fielder's contract expired and nosmite was dropped (option wasn't picked up) but sp9rk1e, xzi, hanbin, fdgod all had their options picked up or were still under contract. the rumour seems to be now that they're going to sell all their korean players to dallas who are trying to become an element mystic reunion? https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1319406078019424256
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2020 00:09 |
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https://twitter.com/FDGod_OW/status/1319575217539350530 https://twitter.com/NiCOgdh/status/1319556549510156289 https://twitter.com/BenBest_Ow/status/1319567084809031685 the obvious read here is this is their reaction to finding out the korean half of the team is being sold to dallas really a shame if this is the case because paris were such a great success story this year, especially the way rush managed to get a great performance out of the previously mediocre benbest etc.
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2020 11:14 |
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the leaks currently have Sp9rk1e, Hanbin and Rush going to Dallas - notably not Xzi yet. Halo did mention that the impression he has is this move is due to financial pressures from covid etc. and other teams might be making similar unexpected moves https://twitter.com/SP9RK1E_OW/status/1319576133386432512 Sp9rk1e basically confirming things
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2020 14:48 |
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https://twitter.com/DallasFuel/status/1319669934968967168?s=19 so yeah it's confirmed. wonder where NineK will end up though
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2020 17:10 |
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it's the shock, no way they aren't going to pick up a top-tier projectile player to replace rascal also i'd think the eileen/diya thing is most likely diya going to guangzhou as eileen is still under contract with guangzhou and it'd be very surprising if he was traded. lih fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Oct 26, 2020 |
# ¿ Oct 26, 2020 03:41 |
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all their contracts were up and it specifically says that they all wanted more playtime which shanghai couldn't guarantee them so it's not really surprising. i fully expect diem to get a starting spot somewhere, and dding and luffy would surely get more playtime on teams where they don't have to compete with fleta and izayaki. no idea if geguri will manage to get signed anywhere though but i hope she does, and diya is surely going to one of the other chinese teams (probably guangzhou?).
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2020 05:15 |
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looking through the teams, the only places that seem to really make sense for diem are dallas or new york. outside chances include guangzhou or florida if they don't re-sign happy or bqb. there's a lot of hitscan talent on the market at the moment and it doesn't seem like that many teams are actually after new hitscan players. looking through possible replacements for rascal there's plenty of projectile players who are free agents at the moment including: erster nero danteh dding also whoru and eqo but i don't really expect there's much chance of shock signing them, and ivy but i expect fusion will probably re-sign him. and then there's also a lot of talent from contenders coming of age like: pelican assassin feath5r valentine choisehwan spectra chendu dropping lateyoung: https://twitter.com/LateYoungOW/status/1320650990404579328 probably unlikely to get picked up, as no other team except for hangzhou and guangzhou seems willing to sign chinese players due to visa issues, and he wouldn't be an upgrade for either of them. at his best in owl he's just been a fairly average zarya specialist. or not: https://twitter.com/LateYoungOW/status/1320660929114038272 ??? lih fucked around with this message at 11:06 on Oct 26, 2020 |
# ¿ Oct 26, 2020 07:13 |
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https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1320759921168785408 xzi maybe gone from paris too. kinda hope he ends up going to dallas to be with the rest of element mystic since they're reportedly picking up mcd as well
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2020 17:30 |
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while NineK's title was GM at Paris last year it's known he was heavily involved in coaching there as well. there's a reason Philly thought he was an upgrade for them over KDG even after a very successful season
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2020 06:04 |
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leaks from halo, but note his record hasn't been 100% lately: https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1322146764858793984 https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1322168544927338496 https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1322170608801751040 really wild if NYXL are trading Mano who i think most would agree was consistently their best player this season. wonder where he's going, Dallas or Toronto?? Yakpung has looked good in Contenders but i wouldn't really think he's an upgrade over Mano lih fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Oct 30, 2020 |
# ¿ Oct 30, 2020 15:05 |
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NYXL also seemed to have serious coaching issues, their read on the meta was often weird and didn't really work for them and they were often running people on weird heroes that didn't seem to play to their strengths (Whoru on Mei, Libero on hitscan, Haksal on Sombra). they also seemed to have trouble trying to play their old 'pocket Jjonak' style when that'd clearly become out of date and far less effective than it used to be in this year's metas, in addition to Hotba's aggressive style not meshing with the rest of the team. https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1322195597064065024
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2020 22:56 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 15:01 |
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the meta substantially shifted between the earlier playoffs and the grand finals, despite the lack of patch, and philly wasn't anywhere near as good at the hog comps that were now dominant. every team in the grand finals, including philly, primarily played hog comps, but mostly the hog/sigma pioneered by seoul instead of washington's hog/zarya. while philly had sado look good on hog against washington in the earlier playoffs, he was really dreadful against shanghai to the point that against seoul they tried fury & poko as their tank line which didn't have any better results.
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# ¿ Nov 1, 2020 06:59 |