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ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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Biohazard posted:

Michael Dorn may not be a great actor, but I still agree with him that a "captain worf" show could have worked.

Agreed. I loved the stint he did on that Klingon ship that exposed how the federation has established a sensible command structure and tends to subdue megalomaniacs trying to run ships at the cost of passionate commanders.

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ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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The only thing I did like about it was the meta discussion about characters playing roles...while actors are paying characters in their roles while faking their true role. It's heavy handed narrative work, but can make a fluff episode less superficial. Especially with the ending, not just the costumed away party. I have enjoyed watching the doctor panic.

Y'all aren't wrong, and feel free to bitch, but maybe just chill the eff out and enjoy your semi good pulpy space mans and SirPatStew finally leaning into the role and the concept of this show. Please, let's put our old dead gay goon money into this so they keep making them. And then just watch reruns of TNG and DS9 on CBS access and pretend you're not watching orville.

ILL Machina fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Feb 22, 2020

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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Baudolino posted:

Lol. I did`nt mean to imply it was artfully done in this case or that the writers put much tougth into the political implications of the show, in the end they just want to get paid for a day`s work just like the rest of us.

This is true, but after hearing from PS about the creators, he's gone out of his way to not resurrect this show and only the leadership and promise and context of the show lead him back. It's a long shot and they're already going out of their way to try to improve/justify s2 apparently...

Come on, they mentioned Spot. Are you not amused...

Aside from generally saying they should do another episode entirely and do it better, how should this go? Bringing back more of the crew would make it even more like generational fan service. I'm genuinely interested in specific kinds of scenes, from a fanfic perspective, that are missing and people are looking for.

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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Naw, really, it's poo poo. I'm just surprised someone else hasn't bought and improved the franchise. Maybe it's just too janky and not worth investing in. CBS is staking a lot on it and, well, if no one else can/will, I guess I have to fall in line. I assume 50% of their subscription base reads this thread.

They seem to have taken Disney's approach to launching a streaming service but with like 1% of the ambition and investment. Presumably because they don't have the cash. Crushing a new show of a group like cbs that is sinking or swimming might not lead to the same quality improvement outcomes you get from trashing Disney's handling of star wars. Pragmatic and kinda dumb, but I have a hard time hating this show. To be fair, I'm dead on their target audience so I'm sure my view is unreasonably biased.

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ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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Shaocaholica posted:

Lizard guy didn’t get to do much for all the hyping. Did he even get a shot off? There are 2 distinct disruptor reports but you only ever see the one hit lizard man. Did he get popped twice?

He sniffed a lot. Unsuccessfully because of benzos. Yeah, no need for the second shot in that scene. Maybe his little wrist phaser went off on his way down.

Lots of really bad world building around universal teleportation and light speed weaponry. I dug the fight scene between Dahj and the talshiar, but that's been it.

Also 100% agree with the plastic implants. Tbh, I'm ok with rubber/plastic housing for them, it makes some sense, just looked flimsy and taped on. I kept waiting for her eye piece to pop off. How did they look so much better so long ago? Maybe they didn't and we've got HD now?

ILL Machina fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Feb 22, 2020

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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How could you loving forget Hugh

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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All of this sounds like it could be wildly successful. I'm imagining pornhub breaking into the streaming service space with episodic features.

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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Clint Eastwood claims it happens a lot. Grizzled hard life leads to nothing else to live for but this one good last long shot fight. It's a trope, and we're in that western thing that could've just been firefly.

Maybe people are just more fit in the future...even if their skin goes to poo poo.

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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I never said he was badass, he's a twat. I think that's besides the point that it's a simple trope he uses in his movies. It predates his portrayal of it. It's not what we wanted or need from the franchise, and yeah, I agree with your point that the character Picard really isn't coming across as badass, let alone interesting.

And, gently caress, my skin crawls every time they say "JL"

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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I'm inclined to finish my poo poo posting in this thread by reminding goons there's a new season 7 of the Clone Wars animated series that started yesterday and might not suck maybe. And D+ has an "essential top 20" playlist for getting through s5.

My rewatch has been satisfying enough to temper my poo poo impression of Picard. There's SOMETHING good in space.

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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A nickname for 7's Vajazzle.

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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Colonel Cancer posted:

Quckold if you will

Now this thread is getting somewhere

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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lol it's not my fault you're all grossed out and don't want to watch. They made me do it.

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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Disney buys star trek and remasters it so it is actually your daddy's star trek, while also kinda not

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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I love a touchpad, but only if I can use my thumb and press mouse buttons with my index like on lenovos. Cursoring on a pad with index fingers is the worst.

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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DancingShade posted:


On the topic of "synths", androids, cyborgs whatever you'd think there would be high demand for getting your brain transplanted from your aging body into a younger synth based chassis where you decreipt spine, aching joints and space arthritis wouldn't be an issue. Might require actual competent writing though to explore the concept of the human condition and transhumanism. Bit of a pipe dream then.

I feel like altered carbon does this in a fun way wrt body sleeves.

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ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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Applewhite posted:

Picard: I'm putting a crew together

Raffi: Get out of here

Picard: I brought wine

Raffi: You son of a bitch, I'm in

Bit predatory, no? Wait till he arms a terrorist just before a massacre he knows is about to happen.

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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The Borg were right all along.

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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E: misread

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Oh man, until Rios went down to Pimp Planet, the twist could have been him being a hologram too.

That's a prevailing theory in this thread. I would suggest reading back because I've found this thread 10x as entertaining as the show...And I'm guilty of liking it despite it being pretty bad.

It started as a joke, but given this shows...he clearly had a near field emitter like the doctor on voyager.

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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I just can't do it, Captain! I don't have the power!

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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I'm fifteen minutes into the new episode. I liked the idea that a humanoid's grief via the Admonishment was enough to destabilize a cube, but jesus I'm regretting every other second.

May not report back. I'm feeling like the other Romulans who touched the Admonishment ring after they folded back their CG hoodies and now crave death.

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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The Spanish guy has an Irish aspect? I'm impressed by the dialect, but have no idea whyyyyyy.

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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I generally agree with the idea that Minority Report style UIs are dumb as gently caress, but maybe if they're making small spatial movements that represent very complicated menu interactions isn't the worst. Especially if the Borg have some innate ability to interpret the bizzaro presentation...

Talking about Seven hacking the cube...trying to give them the credit they're expecting, but it just seems like the UI CG dev got paid way too much.

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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"He made us laugh...except when he was trying to make us laugh... Data's capacity for processing and expressing emotion was limited. I suppose we had that in common."

Ok, decent lines. 5s of the show though, not holding out hope for the rest given other thread commentary.

Sorry for the live blogging, seems like the right thing to do. I want to like this show so very much.

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ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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Oh God he's Scottish too wtf

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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To be fair, she didn't once she plugged in.

Can't believe they almost threw in a "Fear is the mind slayer, Rios." line.

In the end, I still don't hate this show even though I probably should. Can't wait to rollercoaster through the next episode.

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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I love this thread. It's the best thing the show Picard had produced.

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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They're actually going to get Seven to name the Borg cube after Picard and fight against GoldFace Soji. Starring Sword Boy as Head of Security.

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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Tip posted:

And even though they're super strong, stabbing them in the eye instantly kills them?

I think was just Soong Jr. just grieving over her lost eye. Supposed to show violence was novel to them.

All your other questions made perfect sense, so of course they're not in the show.

The gold face, in particular, was bizarre to me. (They had to distinguish Soji even more than just her community theater costume closet wardrobe, I guess?) More bizarre than even Brent Spiner playing every member of the Soong family. I have no idea why he or his character were inserted there...

"Can I touch your wrinkly old face?" ~ a sentient demihuman supermachine who lives alongside another old man and not, in fact, a 2 year old who's never seen an old person before

"You have to use your imagination." ~ a character revealing that the writers would rather not

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ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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They came outta nowhere!

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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They had to scan them duuuude

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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They also apparently burn with fire so seems like one arc of phasers would have been worth a shot, but I guess they cut power and nothing uses batteries anymore and it disabled all backups.

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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Durf posted:

reminder that Rick Berman is probably to blame for everyone acting like robots in Voyager

also T'Pol/Enterprise in general and Seven's outfits


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeSz2gW8IsE

This was very educational.

I noticed them checking a lot of boxes that Berman didn't have the guts to portray. Even that one random scene with Raffi holding Seven's hand at the end...

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ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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For S2 speculation, don't forget that SirPatStew asked Whoopie to be in S2 on his guest spot on The View before ep1 launched.

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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Blistex posted:

Try and write out the plot of Picard season 1 in a single sentence, without it sounding like a fanboy's shopping list of stupid ideas.

The show attempts to focus on an aging ex-hero diplomat, who sees the initial benevolent purposes of his beloved faction degrading, as he attempts to unify new allies, the ancient enemies causing the degradation, and a new complicated people, but fails to address any of those issues in any substantial detail and just comes across as lazy and vaguely racist.

ILL Machina fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Mar 28, 2020

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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Tighclops posted:

shutterstock ragnarok

Deserved a repost, I think:
https://youtu.be/VLCxAJdCZGg

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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Bonzo posted:

Only if he does it like Emeril where there's a live jazz band and he plays with them at the end of every show.

Would definitely watch this.

Start the first episode we get to see with "we were off last week (awww) I know, I know, but when Starfleet calls you up to lead an expeditionary force for a day, what else can you do? <insert catchphrase>"

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ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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Finally got around to the plinkett review. Nailed it. What amazing editing. Was nearly in tears at the end with the clips from the old shows preceding the newtrek montage. I feel pretty good about ignoring this series and pretending it's been a fever dream now.

Would be pretty entertaining to see patstew or kurtzman respond.

MAKE PICARD GAY YOU COWARDS

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ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

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Blistex posted:

Instead of a fully thought out 2-3 paragraph response, Kurtzman replies with 4,366 tweets, each of which is only 3 characters in length.

(no, they do not piece together to form a coherent message)

The pieces that you can compile are gaslighting, whining that you didn't give it a chance and recognize the love put it into it.

Ok, maybe Kurtzmans response wouldn't be entertaining.

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