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Hello and welcome back to The Best, a monthly thread where we discuss a single pro wrestling move that just happens to be the best. This month's move was my favorite move when I was a kid and still rules a bunch: THE CHOKESLAM The chokeslam is a simple but brutal-looking move. First you need to take the wind out of your opponent by grabbing a hold of their throat, ie. the "choke" part of the chokeslam. This is a highly tactical maneuver and a crucial part of the move. You then lift them up (usually grabbing them by their torso/waist with your other hand) and then toss them onto their back onto the mat. I believe this part is known as the "slam" in the industry.  The move looks the best when done from maximum height, which is likely one of the reasons it's mostly found in the movesets of tall wrestlers who are able to make the move look dramatic.  However, there have been some notable smaller wrestlers known to use the chokeslam, Hurricane Helms likely being the most well-known one.  The move is simple enough that there isn't that much variation to be found. Some wrestlers, however, just have a knack for making it look good, like Kane, at least when he was younger. I think it's because he didn't seem to give much of a poo poo about how his opponent landed (see above). In that way I guess the chokeslam is much like the powerbomb, another move that looks better the less of a poo poo you give about the unfortunate dude taking it. Another example of this is Loud Shouting Man Lance Archer's excellent chokeslam. He lifts a dude as high as humanly possible and then just tosses them into the planetary core.  An actual variation is the chokeslam where the chokeslammer lifts the opponent up and then pushes them down with all of their might, landing on their own knee/knees in the process. At least Big Show and The Undertaker used to do this. Sometimes it looks good, sometimes it looks like rear end. By the way, it is loving hard to find good gifs of Big Show doing chokeslams for some reason. Most of them are ruined by WWE's dogshit camera work.  Of course, if you're powerful enough, you can even use both of your hands to execute a double chokeslam on two opponents.  Oh dear! There is also the extremely rare reverse chokeslam where you grab the enemy by their neck and throw them on their stomach. I personally do not like it but perhaps someone could pull it off.  Finally, there is a forbidden black magic variant: The hands-free chokeslam. This move is highly illegal and you are not allowed to use it.  Looking at this post I see that I've nearly exclusively posted WWE wrestlers here. That's because I honestly don't know too many people outside of WWE who use a chokeslam. Maybe you have some good chokeslams from outside of WWE to show the thread! Previous The Best threads: The Best Vol. 5: Eye Poke The Best Vol. 4: German Suplex The Best Vol. 3: Lariat The Best Vol. 2: Powerbomb The Best Vol. 1: Dropkick
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Feb 11, 2020 19:43
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I will try to find as many 911 clips as I can because his chokeslam was all he had but it was pretty darn good.
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Feb 11, 2020 20:01
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You should’ve included the inventor of the move, ABRAHAM LINCOLN https://twitter.com/WWEChrisSharpe/status/993128321964740608?s=20
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Feb 11, 2020 20:34
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lmao that magic chokeslam loving ruuuules. God bless the ref selling it
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Feb 11, 2020 20:36
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The best chokeslams are taken, not given. Brock taking them is my favorite
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Feb 11, 2020 21:24
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Time to crush a lovely person: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKABblKDu-4
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Feb 11, 2020 21:34
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Numero6 posted:Time to crush a lovely person: God drat that is a good rear end chokeslam. Plus The Giant starting a match with a dropkick
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Feb 11, 2020 21:36
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mkay0 posted:The best chokeslams are taken, not given. Brock taking them is my favorite Yeah, it's definitely a move that is probably more than 50% the guy taking it. You need to be able to jump up high to get that maximum height and that sweet sweet stalling in the air factor. Some extra panicky wriggling also helps. It is however down to the chokeslammer to make it seem like they're driving the guy into the depths of hell with the move
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Feb 11, 2020 21:40
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Bad chokeslams: Always hated Razor Ramon/Scott Hall's.
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Feb 11, 2020 21:43
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Worst chokeslam of all time was Nash pinning AJ Styles on a TNA ppv with one out of nowhere.
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Feb 11, 2020 22:45
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If you want cool chokeslams from non-WWE guys, here is Luchasaurus trying to end Joey Janela's life (and almost succeeding)
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Feb 11, 2020 22:53
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One of my favorite chokeslams ever is one of the worst ever, from Undertaker/Hogan where Hogan does not go up AT ALL and Taker pauses, you see him lean in and whisper something in Hogan's ear, and then Hogan goes up as best he can the second time. Taker probably told him,"Come on man, the chokeslam!" but I like to think he said,"Either you're jumping or I'm taking you up legit  "  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anKWu5QW8TE It really demonstrates how much the chokeslam relies on the other guy playing ball.
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Feb 11, 2020 22:56
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he didn't exactly do many amazing looking ones but I would like to give a shout out to akira taue in this thread, who had several different chokeslam related moves
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Feb 12, 2020 01:24
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Chokeslams look best when the person taking it makes no effort to do a back bump and just let's their body get loving hurled into the Earth.
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Feb 12, 2020 01:30
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Always been partial to Akira Taue's Choke Slam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEXsby9BDQM
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Feb 12, 2020 03:27
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Kane’s chokeslams were great. He did a great one on Trish Stratus one time. I also liked when he did it to Chyna. And the one on Lita was great. My personal favorite was the one on Tori. Hmm
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Feb 12, 2020 03:56
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I dig the Choke Breaker. This is the only one that I could find that isn't Baron Corbin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnHY2VardVE&t=19s
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Feb 12, 2020 03:59
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Some 911 that I could find on Youtube In which he chokeslams Jim Steele Some fat guy getting chokeslammed John 'Peewee' Moore gets chokeslammed "lol I'll pretend you said 18" gets chokeslammed And while I was looking for that I found this clip of Vader where, predictably, he doesn't exactly go out of his way to protect the job guy
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Feb 12, 2020 04:07
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Davros1 posted:Bad chokeslams: Always hated Razor Ramon/Scott Hall's. i liked it but it is p. much a choke rock bottom. undertaker did it kinda like this but better when he fought mable & mo. giant did essentially an elevated choke uranage before his joints went, also
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Feb 12, 2020 04:22
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forkboy84 posted:Some 911 that I could find on Youtube Vader protects that dude for the lift, sets him up to take a nice back body drop, and then just goes gently caress it and throws him and almost spins him on his neck. Absolutely wild.
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Feb 13, 2020 00:40
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Sid's chokeslam was boss, though it seemed random which one he'd pull out. Sometimes he'd just huck the guy (as in the first gif up there). Sometimes he'd kneel down with them and plant them somewhere in Beijing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt8fVb2CAWQ
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Feb 13, 2020 00:57
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I've always been partial to the early The Giant/Big Show style where he fell to the ground with them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IS4KsccB7A
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Feb 13, 2020 02:27
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Fentry posted:I've always been partial to the early The Giant/Big Show style where he fell to the ground with them Yeah, his are probably my favourite too. He always had good hang time which I think is difficult for a lot of people to replicate. The punch finisher he was doing was so underwhelming in comparison.
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Feb 13, 2020 02:40
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Who is that getting annihilated by the first Kane chokeslam GIF?
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Feb 13, 2020 02:47
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Looks like bull buchanan
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Feb 13, 2020 02:47
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Always been partial to Akira Taue's Choke Slam Taue chokeslamming Misawa onto Kobashi's hurt leg 6/6/95 
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Feb 13, 2020 02:54
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Misawa did elbows, Kawada did kicks, Kobashi did chops, Taue did chokeslams
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Feb 13, 2020 04:39
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Deathlove posted:Taue chokeslamming Misawa onto Kobashi's hurt leg 6/9/95 Taue's chokeslams were pretty bad unless his opponent jumped like hell into it
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Feb 13, 2020 21:14
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forkboy84 posted:Some 911 that I could find on Youtube Good chokeslams but why was this guy called ”911”? I hope it was at least so that they could do a ”someone call 911” bit or something.
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Feb 13, 2020 22:09
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extradite THIS! posted:Good chokeslams but why was this guy called ”911”? I hope it was at least so that they could do a ”someone call 911” bit or something. That's literally it, actually. Heyman used to be an onscreen manager in ECW and anytime someone tried to get at him he would call 911 and 911 would murder them Also he sorta played the role of "crowd's asleep for tryout/opener guys, time to wake 'em up with visceral violence " that Sandman would later play
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Feb 13, 2020 22:16
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Whenever I think of choke slams this is always the first thing that comes to mind. https://i.imgur.com/zANjTxj.mp4
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Feb 13, 2020 22:31
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El Gallinero Gros posted:That's literally it, actually. Heyman used to be an onscreen manager in ECW and anytime someone tried to get at him he would call 911 and 911 would murder them
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Feb 13, 2020 23:07
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CHaKKaWaKka posted:Whenever I think of choke slams this is always the first thing that comes to mind. holy poo poo
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Feb 14, 2020 03:24
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I would like to submit Big R Shimizu's Shot-Put Slam variant into the running. He does a shot put motion and then falls with the chokeslam, usually carrying the guy from the corner of the ring directly to the center and it rules. https://twitter.com/narukiroy/status/1151318462532411392
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Feb 14, 2020 04:07
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I bet WWE has taken all footage down from non Network locations, but there was a Stevie Richards/Raven vs Pitbulls double dog collar match that turns into a clusterfuck where Dreamer gets involved, the Dudleys get involved, and Big Dick Dudley chokeslams Dreamer. This makes Alfonzo have to say the chokeslam, formerly illegal to keep 911 from chokeslamming him, is now legal. 911 comes out and Alfonzo tries to shout him down, and 911 does the coolest goozle for the chokeslam ever. He grabs the Mike in Alfonzo's hand and grabs the throat both at the same time, and it makes an awesome sound and visual.
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Feb 14, 2020 05:11
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rotinaj posted:I bet WWE has taken all footage down from non Network locations, but there was a Stevie Richards/Raven vs Pitbulls double dog collar match that turns into a clusterfuck where Dreamer gets involved, the Dudleys get involved, and Big Dick Dudley chokeslams Dreamer. This makes Alfonzo have to say the chokeslam, formerly illegal to keep 911 from chokeslamming him, is now legal. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3xgzns relevant bit starts @ 56:30
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Feb 14, 2020 19:05
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rotinaj posted:I bet WWE has taken all footage down from non Network locations, but there was a Stevie Richards/Raven vs Pitbulls double dog collar match that turns into a clusterfuck where Dreamer gets involved, the Dudleys get involved, and Big Dick Dudley chokeslams Dreamer. This makes Alfonzo have to say the chokeslam, formerly illegal to keep 911 from chokeslamming him, is now legal. Most notable that Dudley is on crutches and Dreamer still manages to get chokeslammed by him
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Feb 15, 2020 10:36
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February is nearly over. Who wants to post the next The Best thread?
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Feb 27, 2020 13:34
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do they have to be specific moves or just The Best as relates to wrestling in general
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Paper Lion posted:do they have to be specific moves or just The Best as relates to wrestling in general You can make a thread about whatever you think is The Best pro wrestling move.
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Feb 27, 2020 13:45
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